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Thanks Dave, I have read the book, and I kind of understand what you are saying. I think for some time, I was bowling sliders or legbreaks, with my wrist over the ball sometimes to the right of the ball. Then watched some of warne's slow motion and realized my wrist should be on the left side...

No I dont rest my thumb on the ball, I think it is off the ball, not sure.

Shane Warne at 0:23 The wrist is mostly facing forwards and he seems pull back the wrist and go over the seam. It seems like you need a long ring finger to do that.

Can you guys post a sequence of images that shows the wrist and finger position when you are bowling the big legbreak? I am struggling to get the ring finger over the ball and when I try that position with the ball in hand, it seems impossible to have any kind of support on the ball if the index...

Wow, that does not look like Terry Jenner the coach. Full arm rotation missing?

I am assuming one starts with a cocked wrist, then at some point it becomes neutral, and then goes the other way, at the same time the wrist turns sideways 45 degrees, palm facing away from you and then the ring finger goes over the seam for release? Is this what is being called wrist flick?

Here is Yasir Shah, tucking his thumb inside. http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/970079.html I cannot get my index and middle finger the slide across the ball like that and fully engage the ring finger. Is it to do with wrist position?.

Richie Benaud amazing footage RIP Richie - more than anything else what a great gentleman, he showed how to be humble and kind. Would like to know what you guys think about his bowling. Looks quick to me, unfortunately no view right behind the bowler.

Fawad Ahmed masterclass

Ish Sodhi master class

Shane Warne master class - I never saw this one before. Shows you the grip and release nicely.

I envy you all. Please share your experiences.

Hi Joe, I am in a similar boat. I bowl great in the nets, not a single bad ball, but on the main pitch - full tosses on the legs. I had a horror game as well, with 20 runs to defend in a 20/20 game, bowled the 19th over and gave away 15, with 5 wides on the off side. Needless to say I betrayed...

Hi Dave, Great video. You can see both the spinners are 95% similar, except the left arm of McGill going away. Very good demonstration of the fundamentals.

Sorry, didnt login for a while. Yes, I live in the SF Bay area, northern california.

I bowl in the nets a lot to a US U-19 player. He will kill anything middle or leg. Having him drive to cover with the ball turning keeps him quiet and I vary the amount of spin. Well disguised top spinner is the wicket taking ball. I am not consistent yet with googly and working on it.

Doctortran, could you point me to the position you are talking about by row and column numbers?

Thanks hiesteem - these are good observations. What should the position of my left shoulder/arm should be at your snapshot #1?. I have tried to land my left foot facing fine leg, it still rotates and lands either straight down the wicket or facing slips. I am wondering if my body is...

Not sure my right foot is always parallel to the crease - the first video is my foot lands most of the time. Whatever I try, my left foot seems to rotate to off side during landing - is this due to my body rotating too early?