Armageddon Or Is It Just The Weather?

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someblokecalleddave

someblokecalleddave

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Struth the weather's a bit messed up at the moment here in the UK and seemingly so in your country too! On your national news do you have stories about our messed up weather in the same way our news has stories about yours?

Current stories tonight on the tele here in the UK are floods in York...

http://www.itv.com/news/2015-12-27/army-rescue-people-after-floods-in-york-city-centre/

and Tornadoes and snow in Texas and Mexico...

https://www.ksl.com/?sid=37911456&n...die-in-texas-tornadoes-5-in-illinois-flooding

Snow in Texas ... http://www.nbcdfw.com/weather/stori...ches-of-Snow-Historic-Blizzard-363548531.html
 
someblokecalleddave said:
Struth the weather's a bit messed up at the moment here in the UK and seemingly so in your country too! On your national news do you have stories about our messed up weather in the same way our news has stories about yours?

Current stories tonight on the tele here in the UK are floods in York...

http://www.itv.com/news/2015-12-27/army-rescue-people-after-floods-in-york-city-centre/

and Tornadoes and snow in Texas and Mexico...

https://www.ksl.com/?sid=37911456&n...die-in-texas-tornadoes-5-in-illinois-flooding

Snow in Texas ... http://www.nbcdfw.com/weather/stori...ches-of-Snow-Historic-Blizzard-363548531.html
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It's winter over your part of the world.

Be careful of the extreme conditions though.
Australia has had fires and bad thunderstorms

It's summer over here in australia too but we too have to be careful because of the risk of fire.
 
Yeah fortunately I'm up on a hill so no worries about flooding, it would have to be 'biblical' before we were affected by the rain, but anyone that lives near a river in the UK at the moment must be watching these dirty great depressions moving across the Atlantic laden with rain. We've currently had two record breaking warm months back to back, we've got flowers coming through 3-4 months early and yet we've not had the worst part of winter yet (Usually Jan and Feb). I still think that's going to happen - but like the warmth more extreme - I reckon we're due for some severely cold and snowy weather.

When is your mid-summer - what day does it fall on (Your longest day-light day)? Ours is June 21st.
 
someblokecalleddave said:
Yeah fortunately I'm up on a hill so no worries about flooding, it would have to be 'biblical' before we were affected by the rain, but anyone that lives near a river in the UK at the moment must be watching these dirty great depressions moving across the Atlantic laden with rain. We've currently had two record breaking warm months back to back, we've got flowers coming through 3-4 months early and yet we've not had the worst part of winter yet (Usually Jan and Feb). I still think that's going to happen - but like the warmth more extreme - I reckon we're due for some severely cold and snowy weather.

When is your mid-summer - what day does it fall on (Your longest day-light day)? Ours is June 21st.
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We had ours already. December 22 http://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/astronomical/summer-and-winter-solstice
 
Renegadesfan said:
We had ours already. December 22 http://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/astronomical/summer-and-winter-solstice
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Ah that's interesting so yours is the opposite to ours... the same dates, which then suggests in my mind that if you're half way between Australia and England your summer solstice would Sept/Oct? I'll have a look.

Just looked... https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sour...e=off&hl=en-GB&q=summer+solstice+south+africa that make no sense to me whatsoever:confused:
 
someblokecalleddave said:
Ah that's interesting so yours is the opposite to ours... the same dates, which then suggests in my mind that if you're half way between Australia and England your summer solstice would Sept/Oct? I'll have a look.
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No, the summer solstice depends on which hemisphere you're in. The summer solstice this year in the northern hemisphere is 21 June while in the southern hemisphere it is December 22.

The solstices' and equinoxes usually have slight changes of date from year to year as well.
 
Ljp86 said:
No, the summer solstice depends on which hemisphere you're in. The summer solstice this year in the northern hemisphere is 21 June while in the southern hemisphere it is December 22.

The solstices' and equinoxes usually have slight changes of date from year to year as well.
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So, if you're saying that there's a dividing line around the planet (equator) if you walk a few yards to the northern hemisphere side you'll find that wherever it is you were on Dec 21st a few days ago they'll be experiencing their winter solstice and have their shortest day of light? Then you walk back a few yard to the southern hemisphere they'll be in the same situation you were in a few days ago experiencing your longest day of light?
 
someblokecalleddave said:
So, if you're saying that there's a dividing line around the planet (equator) if you walk a few yards to the northern hemisphere side you'll find that wherever it is you were on Dec 21st a few days ago they'll be experiencing their winter solstice and have their shortest day of light? Then you walk back a few yard to the southern hemisphere they'll be in the same situation you were in a few days ago experiencing your longest day of light?
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Yes. However because of the proximity to the equator, the difference between the two is not very big at all, merely a few seconds difference. As you gain latitude away from the equator, the difference in daylight hours increases so that there are distinct differences between the two solstices and the equinoxes due to the position of the sun and the degree of tilt the earth has on its axis.
 
Ljp86 said:
Yes. However because of the proximity to the equator, the difference between the two is not very big at all, merely a few seconds difference. As you gain latitude away from the equator, the difference in daylight hours increases so that there are distinct differences between the two solstices and the equinoxes due to the position of the sun and the degree of tilt the earth has on its axis.
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someblokecalleddave said:
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I should probably explain this a bit better.

Essentially yes. If you cross the equator, the northern hemisphere would be experiencing their winter solstice and the southern hemisphere would be having their summer solstice. Because of the proximity to the equator, the difference in light between the two would be very, very slim, a few seconds if that as at the equator the amount of daylight is always 12 hours.

This is due to the sun rising almost perpendicular to the horizon 365 days a year. Between the March and September equinoxes the sun rises a bit north of east, and sets a bit north of west. Then from the September to March equinoxes the sun rises a bit south of east and sets a bit south of west. To add to that the path of the sun is almost always in the northern hemisphere from March to September and then almost always in the southern hemisphere from September to March.

The Earth's tilt on its axis of approximately 23.5 degrees explains why we have distinct seasons as well in that the hemisphere which is tilted towards the sun experiences summer, this of course changes when it is tilted away during winter. It also means the daylight hours are longer as well during summer as they get more sun.
 
Renegadesfan said:
A word of warning our awesome admin works in the weather industry and knows what he is on about. He's not here to confuse you, but he will educate you and everyone else on what he has seen.
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Haha, I wish I worked in the weather industry, Renegadesfan. I wanted to work in meteorology when I was younger but unfortunately that would have involved moving to Melbourne to study at university plus you need to be a straight A student. I had to settle for Accounting/Finance instead.

I still have a keen interest in weather though, particularly tropical cyclones.
 
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