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Discussion in 'Spin Bowling' started by someblokecalleddave, Dec 17, 2010.
I like this field too, but the problem comes if you have a left-hander on strike!
I'm not too sure what it is like for other leg spinners on here but the short catch on the offside for me tends to go behind the wicket. The catches that do go through silly point are also normally far harder than the ones that go off the inside edge on to the leg side.
You can see from Mushtaq Ahmed's has above and also fields for Macgill and Warne have had that the silly mid-off/silly point is used when you have the control and skill to not make that position redundant or suicidal.
Yeah it's difficult to expect people to field close in when your bowling is lacking in accuracy, I don't tend to ask for, but I think I've said before we have a bloke who does field in a silly mid-wicket position with a new to the crease batsman. For the most part I can get the ball on the off-stump-line, so if he sees that I'm doing that with a degree of consistency and the bloke is trying to hit the ball leg-side he gets in there. Sometimes, just to put pressure on the batsman if nothing else.
The short catch on the off-side. Yeah I agree with Leftie, that tends to come into play if I'm bowling really well and the batsman is presenting a straight bat and blocking or trying to hit the ball straight, driving it. Normally though if they're confident or seeing the ball well, they'll play off the back foot with a cross bat shot through silly point aggressively.
The bat pad position is something I always ask for but never receive. At club level there just aren't people who are skilled enough in that position to make it work. Every game about 5 inside edges lob up in the air out of reach of the keeper but in reach of a bat pad and those 5 are overshadowed by the 2 hard pull shots played towards bat pad as well. I always end up getting a silly mid wicket and silly cover. Both of them stop one ball in 10 overs of my bowling and/or drop a catch. I wish Punter was in my team, he always took insanely difficult catches off Warne's bowling.
The bat pad position seems like a safer bet to me, against right- and left-handers. Playing for too much or too little turn can easily result in an inside edge onto the pads which loops up in the air. A googly or backspinner can also lead to this. I'd only ask for a silly point if the batsman tends to be too square when playing a shot.
I made that field as a knock on myself for bowling too much leg side crap. When I bowl to a right hander that field would be useless. To a left hander though, flip it and I reckon I'd do a bit better. Lefties always pull or sweep me no matter how far outside off I try to pitch the ball.
Nathan Lyons v Murali Vijay and Rohit Sharma today at the SCG. Did anyone notice if Steve Smith changed the field when he bowled his over?
Interseting article on field setting on pitchvison. https://www.pitchvision.com/set-up-knock-down-a-leg-spin-field-tactic
Spin King - what's this mean "The batter has a closed grip, which will cause him too hit more ball to the leg side, and will struggle to hit through the off side" Not being a batsman I haven't got a clue what that means and is it easy to see and will it as the bloke says mean he'll be trying to get it through the leg -side?
Not really sure. Maybe something to do with the Vs.
I just found this video on batting grips and they talk about closed grips.
We had a long discussion about T20 leg spin fields in the podcast this week. Listen to it on or after Friday 6th Feb 2015 here: http://www.pitchvision.com/podcasts Show 296.
Angry - I've updated your field diagram for you...
Here's a question for those of you that bat well and those of you that bowl wrist spin (Leg breaks) on the off-stump. Would there be a reason to really load up your field on the off-side if you were bowling an off-stump/slightly outside of off-stump line, not quite as radical as Angry Ranga's, but more of an in-out field?
I wouldnt because i sometimes get my line length wrong so the batsman smashes it on the on side
Just been watching Mustaq Ahmed at the SCG in 1995 (3rd test) bowling at Mark Taylor (Left - Hander) and sussed his field.
You will note that the field is the same as per an orthodox right arm offspinner, this is because Mustaq's googly was his weapon and go-to ball.
Nice observation, oh yeah, looking at it, it is very similar to what my captain sets when he's bowling.
Just uploaded a field I used today practicing with my son. Got him 12 times in 46 balls for about 20 runs. Remember he doesn't play that well through the off-side...
Now that the season has ended I've been thinking about field placements, my economy hasn't been too food, 5.98 , even though half the games I played were t20s
In longer games I've thought of leaving a lot of gaps on the leg side so the batsman plays leg side and so he plays against the spin, creating chances ? How does this sound?