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Extremely disappointed that you feel this way Clocker, however, I would think that there may be a few more that might follow you into the retirement bliss. The SECA have allot to be accountable for, they have been a tired bunch for a while now without too much forward thinking about their own comp. Its a 50/50 at the moment with all this structural change, but I'm hopeful that it will be for the better and more importantly, better for the clubs in general.Not surprising and stage 1.
Stage 2 will involve spending the next year or so convincing the stronger clubs to join the Turf competition. There are a number of turf clubs that just make up the numbers.
Stage 3 will be to redirect all the shit clubs to the CMCA or convince them to merge, and there you go.
Prediction: Watch a number of CMCA clubs just fall away. I am sure that will excite all the Rohan O'Neill's of this world. The game is on the nose as it is.
I will no longer be following any local cricket. After 50 years of involvement in the game I will step aside. Cricket is broken from the top echelon of the game right down to Park Cricket. Good bye and good luck to you all.
Thanks for the response RTG, and I understand the unease that people have with the concept. I guess VSDCA is unique in suburban cricket with it's geographical spread, now that the VTCA has contracted.
I think you should acknowledge the VTCA was developed with the VTCA South clubs at the forefront. So those clubs had a tremendous stake in the competition, however it failed to meet those clubs requirements.
The DDCA clubs have great rivalries and history and there again you short change a competition.
As for the VSDCA - there have been numerous ins and outs from that competition over it's time, but that's entirely normal and expected as clubs change and different models are adapted. It certainly hasn't removed their history of competition.
As a player I'm more than satisfied with CSB and CV as administrators. The local clubs appoint the board of directors and vote at the AGM just the same as any other association, but the distinction is the resources and stronger voice when dealing with LGA's being delivered.
Once you take the field as a player it's all academic anyway and the beer still tastes good after a days play...
Again Dales, you seem to have misunderstood me. When I was referring to roaming VTCA South/DDCA clubs, I wasn't referring to Buckley Ridges etc, I was referring to this (not my list, extracted from another post on the VTCA forum):-
1.South Yarra - Mercantile CA
2.Maccabi Ajax - Mercantile CA
3.St.Bedes/St.Johns - VSDCA in - VSDCA out (Kingston Saints)
4.North Caulfield - Merged with Caulfield Old Grammarians (CSB)
5.Mordialloc - DDCA Reigning Turf 1 Premiers Back to Back left VTCA 2004
6.East Malvern - Eastern?
7.Old Brighton - ?
8.Springvale - DDCA
9.Parkdale - VTCA - DDCA - CSB
10.Old Mentone - VTCA - MCC Club XI - CSB
11.Dingley - VTCA - DDCA Turf 1
12.Aspendale - VTCA - DDCA - CSB
13.Chelsea - VTCA - CSB
14.Highett
15.Moorabbin Park - Bayside CC (MPCC & Highett merger - VTCA - CSB
16.RMIT went North
17.MHSOB ?
18.Brighton East - VTCA - CSB
That list is probably reflective of the crossover of all the available suburban comps, club requirements and the lack of administrative & competition support from the VTCA I reckon RTG.
I'd hardly think all is lost with a change of competition or structure though. Young blokes playing today and in seasons to come won't know any difference, the blokes who have played in the past VTCA South haven't lost anything - just gained more resources from the state body at a local level.
I know we'll disagree on this and many will have different views on it.
Big moves at CHAGS with long time player and club legend Brad Lockard moving to Carrum Downs, also Dale Tormey supposedly to Packenham. Two big outs and rumours circulating that another top liner wanting out.Anyone got other player movement rumors or updates re a club that looked at changing to a turf wicket.
Pretty much summed the situation up as its now confirmed that Uniting are down. Redbacks have been advised that they need to produce what they have submitted in their proposal, '' must have been a good proposal ''. I believe that in the vote by the exec that 2 prominent people were left out or advised not to vote as they perhaps didn't want the same outcome from the previous season's vote whereby it was a split decision and then left up to ? to cast the final vote. All things considered, the right outcome has been achieved. Interesting comments about recruits, and who are Union supposed to be losing ? Rumour also is ANA are interested in Dolman to perhaps return to where it started. East Sandy are after another bat plus an opening bower and have pursued Gara vigerously $$$$$. They also have a healthy bank balance. With regards to structure, the clubs would certainly have to vote for the 8 team change, I couldn't see it being implemented if this was not the case.
I’m looking forward to finding out the competition structure, my preference is for a white ball one day comp and a separate red ball two day comp which some other competitions run in a slightly different format. Agreed with your sentiments WP that three games after Christmas is a joke. But finishing on the long weekend is ideal for premiership teams and a mad Monday. For me 7 one dayers and 7 two dayers is a touch too much cricket.
What’s happened over at CHAG to trigger such an exodus, have they replaced anyone. My early tip for the longy flag is west bentleigh, the fresh rumour is they have signed one of the redbacks main men who was picked in the SECA team of the year. I’m sure that wasn’t included in their proposal to SECA to remain in the top grade.
Uniting have picked up two Englishmen to try and cover their losses, no news on Dolman yet. Elwood need a few top up players so they can try and avoid the drop this year. Surely a wooly side can’t get promoted at the end of this season when we go to 8 teams.
Now that the westars aren’t paying Dawkins they’ve brought in a UK keeper batsmen. An interesting move from Dawkins to switch to another wooly club, only for a bit of extra cash. Not sure that it makes omega flag favourites, but it wouldn’t be uncommon for a few of them to get ahead of themselves. KH got ahead of themselves 12 months ago and were talking premierships before winter had passed, yet they missed finals. But they will be a threat if they can keep Cefala who was eyeing off district cricket.
Wpops news about umpire who moonlighted as a coach has got around he traps, he was keen on cefala and a few other young players, I believe that even players from clubs who used his coaching services weren’t immune to his advances, I’m sure that didn’t go down well. As far as I’ve heard, he didn’t have much success with his SECA recruitment drive.
Hellenic will no doubt have splashed some cash to retain their existing crop of players but may have topped up. Hopefully their behaviour improves, IMO they’re lucky to still be in the competition after the way they behaved in the Quiney grand final 18 months ago. Emerald Hill won’t be looking forward to seeing Hellenic again, there’s no lost love between those two.
Interesting thoughts there CBB, but the change of format has been coming for about 3 seasons in rumour and now in fact. Id suggest that the SECA didn't want to make too many changes before next season after already changing to 10 teams. What doesn't change is that SECA is a laughing stock amongst other comps for this scheduling.Anyone else think that the reason that they are sticking with the 6 days of cricket after Christmas is so when it changes to 7 two dayers and 7 one dayers. there will be next to no opposition because everyone will want the extra 3 days of cricket in the year?
Interesting thoughts there CBB, but the change of format has been coming for about 3 seasons in rumour and now in fact. Id suggest that the SECA didn't want to make too many changes before next season after already changing to 10 teams. What doesn't change is that SECA is a laughing stock amongst other comps for this scheduling.
CBC, pretty much summed it up, but with Tormey, and Locky who were both senior selectors they would be more involved in the 1's rather then down the grades. Maybe time for their much travelled COC to be questioned as I believe that he did not see this coming but may have been heavily involved in back door movements.Most players knew of the majority of chags 1s leaving months ago. Hardly the dawn of the season. Buckwheat was the last one to be known about but problems with alledged favouritism in finals selection from selectors and captains who were loyal to chelsea heights or gardens players is what caused the divide. Word was it brad left once he realised what a shitfight it was going to be. Surely noone wants to play with flahive unless l theres some underlying issues at stake at club or mental level
Most players knew of the majority of chags 1s leaving months ago. Hardly the dawn of the season. Buckwheat was the last one to be known about but problems with alledged favouritism in finals selection from selectors and captains who were loyal to chelsea heights or gardens players is what caused the divide. Word was it brad left once he realised what a shitfight it was going to be. Surely noone wants to play with flahive unless l theres some underlying issues at stake at club or mental level