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[a for effort]

He would if they picked the best gloveman instead of the best batsman who owns a pair of keeping gloves. The Redbacks don't have much homegrown talent at the moment but they've still got the best keeper.

[Biggie]

Originally Posted by a for effort

*Contentious statement warning*

If Graham Manou played for NSW he would be in the Test and One-day teams

Agreed.

[Jolldo87]

Originally Posted by bundybullz08

I'd love to see Adam Crosthwaite in it, bit vic biased,
but i'm 70% sure he's doing better than ronchi at state level.
don't have the stats tho.:S

Off the top of my head i can't think of a better option for the Twenty20 if Haddin is out.

Originally Posted by a for effort

He would if they picked the best gloveman instead of the best batsman who owns a pair of keeping gloves. The Redbacks don't have much homegrown talent at the moment but they've still got the best keeper.

Better with the gloves than Crosthwaite?

I can't say i've seen much of Manou in the long form of the game but from what i've seen he's definitely not as good as Crosthwaite.

Whilst we're on the topic of Manou he's the worst captain i've ever seen. Not that it's relevant, just something that needed to be said.

[The430king]

Originally Posted by Jolldo87

Haddin is in doubt for Sundays Twenty20.

The guy that can't make a run at state level, Luke Ronchi is on standby.

Your joking, that's an absolute disgrace if that's the case. Watched him bat last and he didn't look like hitting the ball. When are these selectors going to learn to pick players that are in form. First Hayden, then Marsh, now Ronchi. Tim Paine from Tassie must be injured, because he would be my pick.

[a for effort]

Originally Posted by Jolldo87

Better with the gloves than Crosthwaite?

I can't say i've seen much of Manou in the long form of the game but from what i've seen he's definitely not as good as Crosthwaite.

Whilst we're on the topic of Manou he's the worst captain i've ever seen. Not that it's relevant, just something that needed to be said.

Crosthwaite is definitely flashier, but I've seen him struggle up to the stumps on occasions in the Ford Ranger cup (Which is all we really get to see on TV), whereas Manou has been rock-solid every time I've seen him. There's that saying "If you see a keeper diving around stopping everything, he's having a good day. If you don't notice him at all, he's having a better day" which I think applies when comparing the two. I can't really comment on his captaincy though as I've not seen enough of it.

[Biggie]

Originally Posted by Jolldo87

Haddin is in doubt for Sundays Twenty20.

The guy that can't make a run at state level, Luke Ronchi is on standby.

Actually Jolldo, where'd you hear this?

[Jolldo87]

Originally Posted by Biggie

Actually Jolldo, where'd you hear this?

Channel 10 news.

I'm fairly sure that was what was said.

[The430king]

Originally Posted by Jolldo87

Channel 10 news.

I'm fairly sure that was what was said.

Haddin trained with the side today, but isn't a certain starter. M. Hussey missed training today because of a virus, but they expect him to play.

[grapedo]

Now that the wicket keeper debate has started I am going to list the domestic keepers and their averages in first class cricket.
Brad Haddin: 102 matches - 6256 runs @ 41.15 307 catches @ 3 per game.
Adam Crosthwaite: 24 matches - 707 runs @ 22.09 80 catches @ 3 per game
Tim Paine: 25 matches - 1304 runs @ 31.04 60 catches @ 2.4 per game
Chris Hartley: 44 matches - 1634 runs @ 26. 78 196 catches @ 4.5 per game
Graham Manou: 83 matches - 2850 runs @ 22.56 260 catches @ 3 per game
Luke Ronchi: 36 matches - 1702 runs @ 33.37 123 catches @ 3 per game

So Haddin is definitley the best batsman followed by Ronchi and then Psine and Chris Hartley has the best catch ratio.

[eddiesmith]

Why use first class stats when people are debating who should be coming in for a T20 game?