Who was better? - Page 3

siddle2franklin · 10 Jan 2009, 02:21

id have to say warnie
the things he did with the ball were just simply amazing he could turn the ball a mile on concrete
though murali is also a good player alot of his wickets were on spinners pitches and also againts the minnow nations

**D.K** · 10 Jan 2009, 05:14

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Originally Posted by BabyBlues

You seriously think a still photo can capture something like that? How about video of Murali bowling with an arm brace that didn't allow his arm to change its angle? Murali isn't a chucker, it's an optical illusion, and it's been proven as such.
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That test was hardly an accurate test. Had a cricket mate who watched this being done and Murali was virtually walking up and sending the ball down at ridiculous slowness and had hardly any of his spin that he generates.

If he was sending them down in the 90kph and turning them, while still having a cast on his arm them maybe just maybe.

Never enjoyed watching the minnow basher bowl even if he is a nice guy.

BabyBlues · 10 Jan 2009, 05:47

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Originally Posted by D.K

That test was hardly an accurate test. Had a cricket mate who watched this being done and Murali was virtually walking up and sending the ball down at ridiculous slowness and had hardly any of his spin that he generates.

If he was sending them down in the 90kph and turning them, while still having a cast on his arm them maybe just maybe.

Never enjoyed watching the minnow basher bowl even if he is a nice guy.

Not in the video I saw. In the video I saw, he was still bowling at a similar pace, with a similar amount of spin. It's backed up by slow motion video of his bowling action during games, which also shows that his arm doesn't flex. Besides which, the whole point of the video was not to show that Murali can bowl perfectly with the cast on (after all, it would also weigh down his arm, and ruin his run in). The point was to show that the suspect look of his action is still there even when wearing the cast. His arm still looks like it straightens, even when he bowls with the brace. It is an optical illusion, not dissimilar to when you wobble a pen between your thumb and index finger, and it looks like it's made of rubber or something.

His arm is bent, but he was born like that. He doesn't straighten it, which is the issue. Therefore, he gets no advantage.

**southern sledge** · 12 Jan 2009, 16:22

Thats the problem, he does straigten it

Kram81 · 13 Jan 2009, 00:42

Sure maybe he can sneak the Doosra in with the law bowling a couple of overs fresh at 80% pace. Do you think that this might deteriorate after bowling 20 overs in 40 degree heat?

**CowCorner** · 13 Jan 2009, 05:14

Certain to be a question that will be asked for many many years, the main problem being the, at times, questionable action and the teams he has played (although you can only bowl the players in front of you.

Whilst I may be biased I am 100% WARNE.

Could he be the answer to take on the soap dodgers in a few months. Yes its ridiculas but it would be great to see him clean them up (pun intended)

BabyBlues · 13 Jan 2009, 06:35

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Thats the problem, he does straigten it

Saying it doesn't make it so. The sky is wicked. Coca Cola is fussy. Sunglasses are noisy.

Murali's arm doesn't straighten at all. It can't. He was born with a defect that means he physically can't straighten it. Yes, his arm is bent, but that only gives an advantage when it straightens from that bend. It is an optical illusion, and has been proven as such.

I'd love to rant on about how he's a cheater and a chucker, and when I was younger I used to, because if he was, then Warne would have a moral right to the highest wicket-taking record, but it's simply not the case.

**southern sledge** · 13 Jan 2009, 06:41

99% of the cricketing public in Australia recken he chucks, Warne is the best spinner ever.

BabyBlues · 13 Jan 2009, 07:19

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99% of the cricketing public in Australia recken he chucks, Warne is the best spinner ever.

Cool non sequitur. Warne has nothing to do with whether Murali chucks. Neither, for that matter, does the misguided, jingoistic, beer-fuelled, arrogant opinions of the Australian public.

Ask the scientists that tested him whether he chucks. You'll get your answer.

Kram81 · 13 Jan 2009, 08:04

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Originally Posted by BabyBlues

Murali's arm doesn't straighten at all. It can't. He was born with a defect that means he physically can't straighten it. Yes, his arm is bent, but that only gives an advantage when it straightens from that bend. It is an optical illusion, and has been proven as such.

Who cares if it can't fully straighten it with a deformed arm? It's the movement where he bends it beyond between the 15 degrees that matters. Yet he wouldn't take up the offer to be checked during a Test match.