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2 Dec 2009, 08:28
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Re: Wrist Spin Bowling (Part Two)
that was a new video for me as well. ive heard Warne talk about all the same things in other videos, he pretty much did the same masterclass during the Sky Sports Ashes coverage this summer. talking about moving around the crease primarily.
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2 Dec 2009, 11:25
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#642
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Re: Wrist Spin Bowling (Part Two)
I would also be very tempted to bowl a big leg break outside leg stump and pray it would turn to avoid starting with a wide. Using this as a permanent line of attack though I feel would be dangerous, as umpires are very severe at anything wide of leg stump in limited overs cricket. Another ploy that would tempt me would be throwing a googly first up outside offstump, just to show the batsman that that is in the armoury. But finally I think I agree with Macca, I would prefer a line at off stump with a predominantely offside field. Had I had better control the line of attack would be much simpler.
Was reading part of grimmetts book at the dentists(ouch). He makes it sound so simple. Palm faces mid on for the topspinner, the square leg umpire for the small leg break. Then funnily enough he says the googly is bowled with the hand turned round farther than for the maximum leg break ( which should give the slider/backspinner). Ipresume he meant turn the wrist opposite to the big leg break unless he had a wrist like an indian rubber man. P 37 leg breaks and googlies from Grimmett on cricket
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2 Dec 2009, 13:57
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#643
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Re: Wrist Spin Bowling (Part Two)
I notice on page one on this website they are looking for a new mystery ball from us spinners. My kid has come up with a couple of his own and i reckon if you give anyone a ball for long enough they will too.
There is nothing new under the sun in spinbowling just about everything has been tried over the centuries, there are lots of deliveries that could be perfected but there is nothing "new" in spin bowling. Grimmett recognised that his flipper was bowled before underarm in England and Bosquanet said he was not the first to bowl the googly and as for the doosra that goes way back too, anyone can find them, perfecting them is another thing , that takes genius.
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2 Dec 2009, 14:00
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#644
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Re: Wrist Spin Bowling (Part Two)
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Originally Posted by sadspinner
I would also be very tempted to bowl a big leg break outside leg stump and pray it would turn to avoid starting with a wide. Using this as a permanent line of attack though I feel would be dangerous, as umpires are very severe at anything wide of leg stump in limited overs cricket. Another ploy that would tempt me would be throwing a googly first up outside offstump, just to show the batsman that that is in the armoury. But finally I think I agree with Macca, I would prefer a line at off stump with a predominantely offside field. Had I had better control the line of attack would be much simpler.
Was reading part of grimmetts book at the dentists(ouch). He makes it sound so simple. Palm faces mid on for the topspinner, the square leg umpire for the small leg break. Then funnily enough he says the googly is bowled with the hand turned round farther than for the maximum leg break ( which should give the slider/backspinner). Ipresume he meant turn the wrist opposite to the big leg break unless he had a wrist like an indian rubber man. P 37 leg breaks and googlies from Grimmett on cricket
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I noticed something confusing at that point as well in the book.
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2 Dec 2009, 14:20
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#645
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Re: Wrist Spin Bowling (Part Two)
Does that book precede 'Taking Wickets'?
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2 Dec 2009, 14:31
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#646
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Re: Wrist Spin Bowling (Part Two)
I think that is from the 1948 book.
in the video Healey picked warnes the flipper from the thumb and that is how i pick my boys flipper when i keep to him.
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2 Dec 2009, 15:20
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#647
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Re: Wrist Spin Bowling (Part Two)
Macca this looks like it was on 9MSN is it still on there - I can't navigate my way round that website anymore, it used to be easy, but since they've updated I can't find anything on there - is this on there cos the quality here YouTube - shawarAusBowl is really poor?
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3 Dec 2009, 16:20
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#648
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Re: Wrist Spin Bowling (Part Two)
It's coming to the end of the year and I reckon we should update our 10 point wrist spin manifesto. Maybe we should name it slightly differently so that it comes up on Google more readily as it seems very few people refer to Wrist Spin in the correct vernacular? Maybe called it the Leg Spin manifesto - but then do we call it Legspin all one word or Leg spin with a gap - I don't even know the more popular way of spelling it.
Anyway what could the 10 points be, maybe we should all chip in with a few suggestions each and see how it goes?
Would we be limiting it's use by saying 10 point or could there be more?
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3 Dec 2009, 18:15
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#649
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Re: Wrist Spin Bowling (Part Two)
I have seen Terry Jenners ten point checklist for legspinners in a book here somewhere or at the library. One of them is "get yourself a good wicketkeeper" !
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3 Dec 2009, 18:40
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#650
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Re: Wrist Spin Bowling (Part Two)
Going to go and have a bowl on tomorrows game pitch if we can today. I always tell him to be thinking of bowling a maiden rather than taking wickets in that first over but he tries to do both he reckons.
He is as high in the bowling figures now almost half way through the comp rounds then he has ever been, maybe he will never be again this high. No 1 in his team ,N0 2 for his age group in the club and third in his competition division.
Only one other boy has bowled as many overs in his comp so far, there is this hot weather guideline that favours spinners slightly and his accuracy has made him the coaches " go to man". He bowled one wide last week in 5 overs the rest bowled 60 odd no balls and wides! I still cant believe that figure.
One of the reasons we will change clubs at the end of season is there are not many batsmen here good enough to build a total for a legspinner to bowl at. My old cub are looking for a young leggie and they have three champion bats his age.
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