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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    Nope, I'll leave it to the dictionary: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/wrong'un
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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    Oh, Boocky, that gloriously eccentric man. I don't think he knew what he was talking about at that time. You will note that he referred to "a controversial wrong'un", meaning a doosra. He also states further down that "...many experts believe they cannot be delivered without an illegal snap of...
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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    I have never heard it in NZ used in the general way you've described, no one I know down this way uses it as you do. I've played up and down the length of the country and would have heard it used that way if it ever was. This suggests that the way the term is an English thing and this is...
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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    Is that tone really necessary? Also, if we take your argument to extremes, an offspinner literally means a ball with off spin so therefore a googly is an offspinner.
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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    Completely agree, rolls nicely into the "being aware" bit. You've bowled a bad ball and been hit for four. What did you just see? Did the batsman just avoid your midwicket sweeper? Did he just hit a ball through a fine gap when there was a safer option? If you now settle back on your line and...
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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    I'm still not conceding on the "wrong'un" thing, but I am in a different country so it's highly likely that similar terms will be used in different ways (which means Wikipedia needs updating, get to work SLA!). Back to the actual subject which is the mind of the wrist of spinner. A wrist...
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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    The offies that I know and have known who bowl it refer to it as the "other one", never as the "wrong'un". It's pretty much as SLA has explained it, use the fingers to give the ball spin the opposite of offspin with the wrist starting in a position as you would for a standard offbreak. Tends to...
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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    Not bothered how you wish to define it. All I know is that with all the cricketers from various countries that I have played with and against if you said 'woung'un' they will assume you mean a googly. Standard as well in all the cricket books I have read.
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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    Well you said: "For whatever reason, leg-spinners have had a habit of being a bit more big-headed about their skills and shouting louder about all their variations." And that's what I replied on. "To be perfectly frank, I think this idea that all leg-spinners are bound to be expensive and...
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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    Too true about non-cricketers, my mates think that because I bowl leggies that I mostly come on as a wicket taker. Couldn't be further from the truth, I get the 'crap' overs when attrition is needed against well set batsmen on flat wickets. Not entirely convinced on the difference in psych...
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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    That's not a wrong'un, sounds like something more in common with a carrom ball. I know the delivery, a few offies I know use it every now and then.
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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    Off-spinners wrong'un? Do you mean out of the back of the hand like a legspinner's wrong'un or do you mean a doosra? If it's the former wouldn't it be obscenely obvious?
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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    This I agree with. When someone asks me to coach them spin from scratch I describe how to spin the ball both ways (not the grip) and ask them to tell me which one feels more natural. This sets their base delivery and we go from there. In answer to your statement as to why there are so many...
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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    No, that is not what I am referring to. Off-spin, actual off-spin, is more common than leg-spin amongst adults in NZ. Leg-spin in NZ is more common amongst kids.
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    The Mind And Wrist Spin

    Not in my experience. Kids favour leg spin and adults favour off spin. Juniors go for leg spin as they have less strength which makes it easier to release a leg break with spin rather than an off break. As they get older and develop some strength more players lean toward off spin over leg spin.
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    Kevin Pietersen Sacked

    I know, frankly it's bizarre that the England management could not find a way to properly accomodate him in their set up. He's not like Ryder who hits the bottle when he's in the limelight. Still, that Ponting interview was genius.
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    Kevin Pietersen Sacked

    As long as Ponting gets to quiz him in the commentators box again, they way Ponting got him to take the bait time and time again was glorious.
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    Kevin Pietersen Sacked

    Bizarrely it's only SLA and right arm pace in Asia that he has problems with, in fact he does worse against right arm pace in Asia than anything else.
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    2016 Icc World T20 Discussion Thread

    Hopefully he gets more work in SL and avoids the commentary box in NZ.
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    Wrist Spin Bowling (part Five)

    That's a strawman argument. Those sports practice that way in order to avoid injury, you are not avoiding injury by using sticky substances to aid your grip. The equivalent to what you're suggesting is a swing bowler practicing using a ball that's been varnished on one side. Anyway, if you...
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