Hussey Must Be Dropped for Ferguson

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tour games do count!

it shows that hussey is still at the top of form at domestic level. which means if he goes back to western australia, he is probably going to rip every side apart again like he used to.

other international sides have noticed him as a huge talent. like ricky ponting they have concentrated on him. they have devised plans that work. hussey has to counteract that.

ponting and hussey are the best pair of batsman i have had the chance to see with my eyes, and ive seen a lot of history.

they won the 06/07 ashes series with their consistent partnerships, among other series. i absolutely love watching the two of them bat together.

but since then teams have worked them both out. luckily for ponting he is good enough and has had some lucky breaks to keep scoring pretty well. hussey consistently gets beautiful balls and is unlucky. just has to get a break like he has and he should be away. too bad the next test is a long time away.
 
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breeno;366559 said:
Did Ricky Ponting tell you?

They get picked on team balance, and because of their form, if a player has been tearing it up in County Cricket, he will probably get selected if he did well in the Australian summer also.

Hughes would never have been selected and pushed out Hayden if he wasn't in good form, same with Katich. Hussey's been on the slide for way too long and one would only think it won't be long before he is dropped.
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You forgot the only thing that really matters at the selection table, they must be best mates with Ricky Ponting, thats why an opening batsman can tear it up at Shield level and County cricket but will be overlooked for a test series in England for one of Rickys mates to bat in a position he has never done well at for his State
 
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eddiesmith;366641 said:
You forgot the only thing that really matters at the selection table, they must be best mates with Ricky Ponting, thats why an opening batsman can tear it up at Shield level and County cricket but will be overlooked for a test series in England for one of Rickys mates to bat in a position he has never done well at for his State
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thats why the worthlessness of siddle has been kept...
 
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Boris;366708 said:
thats why the worthlessness of siddle has been kept...
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Oh yeah most definately, nothing to do with his performances being better than those outside the side...:rolleyes:

You really need to get over this Siddle hate, he is young in his first year of test cricket and doing a sensational job with a better average than the old man you want brought back
 
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eddiesmith;366714 said:
Oh yeah most definately, nothing to do with his performances being better than those outside the side...:rolleyes:

You really need to get over this Siddle hate, he is young in his first year of test cricket and doing a sensational job with a better average than the old man you want brought back
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well im not going to say anything more then this on the siddle argument because this isnt the place.

his figures havent been good. he has a couple of five-fors but nothing else of much interest. hussey over the past year has been more useful IMO, at least hes a role model and shows an interest in the side, not just pissing off oppositions and their fans.

the first year of test cricket is the time when you shine. thats when you are on a form high and you only get worse from there. like hussey, his first year he was the best batsman in the world. he has petered off from there. ponting and mcgrath for example are the same. doesnt mean they are bad, its just the drop back a bit and find a comfortable level.

my concern is that siddle's dropping back in years to come is going to have him as a very ordinary bowler. there is only so long until other sides work out his flaws and pick him to bits.

plus hes not that good anyway. he was good in south africa, but before and after that he has more or less been a weak link in the side. a kind of nothing player that gets some good wickets and then doesnt get the chance to bowl any more overs because he leaks runs from what is meant to be the economical bowler in replace of clark.

he has only stayed in the team because ponting and a couple of higher people see hope in him and like his bubbly (but i think completely annoying) personality.

but that isnt necessarily a bad thing. ponting has good taste.

we will see if siddle can stand up against the pressure of bowlers beneath him that have in fact been better then him in the domestic areas, or by the pressure of the legends forcing their way back in with consistent performances that they have shown for many many years.

anyway this is a thread on huss, best not get off topic.
 
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Boris;366715 said:
well im not going to say anything more then this on the siddle argument because this isnt the place.

his figures havent been good. he has a couple of five-fors but nothing else of much interest. hussey over the past year has been more useful IMO, at least hes a role model and shows an interest in the side, not just pissing off oppositions and their fans.

the first year of test cricket is the time when you shine. thats when you are on a form high and you only get worse from there. like hussey, his first year he was the best batsman in the world. he has petered off from there. ponting and mcgrath for example are the same. doesnt mean they are bad, its just the drop back a bit and find a comfortable level.

my concern is that siddle's dropping back in years to come is going to have him as a very ordinary bowler. there is only so long until other sides work out his flaws and pick him to bits.

plus hes not that good anyway. he was good in south africa, but before and after that he has more or less been a weak link in the side. a kind of nothing player that gets some good wickets and then doesnt get the chance to bowl any more overs because he leaks runs from what is meant to be the economical bowler in replace of clark.

he has only stayed in the team because ponting and a couple of higher people see hope in him and like his bubbly (but i think completely annoying) personality.

but that isnt necessarily a bad thing. ponting has good taste.

we will see if siddle can stand up against the pressure of bowlers beneath him that have in fact been better then him in the domestic areas, or by the pressure of the legends forcing their way back in with consistent performances that they have shown for many many years.

anyway this is a thread on huss, best not get off topic.
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It is all to do with his form.... Hussey's form has been great when he has played at state level. The only time when his form hasn't been that good is when he has been batting against bowlers who have done their homework on him. That is those who know his strengths and weaknesses.
 
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breeno;366559 said:
Did Ricky Ponting tell you?

They get picked on team balance, and because of their form, if a player has been tearing it up in County Cricket, he will probably get selected if he did well in the Australian summer also.

Hughes would never have been selected and pushed out Hayden if he wasn't in good form, same with Katich. Hussey's been on the slide for way too long and one would only think it won't be long before he is dropped.
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Do one thing and never apply for a job as a selector. You would not be that good at it. In fact you would be terrible as you don't bother picking those who are totally in form. You would prefer to have Hussey sacked all because frankly you hate him. :rolleyes:
You know that the world doesn't work like that? You aren't the only person on this planet.
Hayden retired as a legend.... Katich is awesome. Hughes was in form but decided to vent his spleen on twitter and got suspended never to return. Probably a good thing. Hughes needs to think, just like what you need to do, about what cricket and life in general is all about.
Hussey is in there because he is a team player who gives the youngsters and his other team mates support when they need it the most. Surely you have seen it in the ODI's when Tim Paine got his century.
 
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Hussey is in the team because he is Ponting's best mate and has an exceptional record in the past. If Marcus North or Simon Katich had a record anything like Hussey's recent form, then they would most definitely not be in the team.

Suzi you are wrong about literally everything. The points you raise as evidence have little or nothing to do with the argument at hand. Please don't turn this thread into another McCain chip factory debacle.
 
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schwab2clarkson;366719 said:
Do one thing and never apply for a job as a selector. You would not be that good at it. In fact you would be terrible as you don't bother picking those who are totally in form. You would prefer to have Hussey sacked all because frankly you hate him. :rolleyes:
You know that the world doesn't work like that? You aren't the only person on this planet.
Hayden retired as a legend.... Katich is awesome. Hughes was in form but decided to vent his spleen on twitter and got suspended never to return. Probably a good thing. Hughes needs to think, just like what you need to do, about what cricket and life in general is all about.
Hussey is in there because he is a team player who gives the youngsters and his other team mates support when they need it the most. Surely you have seen it in the ODI's when Tim Paine got his century.
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Actually Hussey is my second favourite player of all time. I would love for him to be doing well, but quite frankly, he isn't.
 
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The quality of cricket discussion on this board is starting to resemble the likes of what was seen on another site that may or may not have a similar name to this.

Siddle is a quality young bowler, already has taken 50 wickets at test level for a little under 29 runs a hit. His going to be a great bowler for us.
 
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I think it isnt totally off topic, its a similar argument the young potential v the old timer who is slipping. On Hussey what that shows is its better to pick players like Siddle when they are at their best rather than leave it untill they hit 30 and they only have 1 or 2 good years before losing it completely

Thats the thing with Hussey, he is old, its not a temporary form loss, he is simply finished, he has been worked out, Australian first class teams worked him out long before he played test cricket and at his age now the rest of the world has worked him out, he cant change anything, its too late

Atleast with Siddle he showed he can dominate first class teams, can perform against the best and if he does have problems they can be worked out as he is still quite young but it is better to have a young bloke charging in and getting better than picking an old bloke who will not do any better and isnt going to improve

With Ferguson his challenge when they finally dump Hussey will come against other young players, Siddle doesnt really have any competition for his spot
 
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