Vtca Season 2017/18 & 2018/19

westland

Active Member
If Subbies did fall over it would be interestering to see how clubs would be graded
For example Caulfield,Oakleigh,Noble Park and Brighton would have to start in Championship Division with Elsternwick,Ormond and Moorabbin starting in Division 1 but in saying that which current CSB Championship Divisions team would go down to Division 1 maybe Parkdale,Hampton,McKinnon or either Bentleigh or Carnegie .
But interesting times ahead in cricket.
Fully agree there will be interesting times ahead to which I would add the words challenging and concerning.
 

Smackers

New Member
Enough about bentleigh, hows about yarraville club looking likely getting religated, or will the vtca only drop one side this year with strathmore moving to subbies.
Cant see yarraville beating strathmore this week but you cannot ever write them off.
 
Well Yarraville Club have had a great run but hay someone else will step up to the plate and be a dominant club.
As I know this still the VTCA side until whenever but will say Noble Park if subbies fall over will play CSB not DDCA as the CSB is a much better compilation and will be tested.
If they want to win flag after flag will take the weaker option of the DDCA
 

rat'n'bat

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Well Yarraville Club have had a great run but hay someone else will step up to the plate and be a dominant club.
As I know this still the VTCA side until whenever but will say Noble Park if subbies fall over will play CSB not DDCA as the CSB is a much better compilation and will be tested.
If they want to win flag after flag will take the weaker option of the DDCA
I currently play in the CSB and used to play in the DDCA so have a pretty good idea of both comps – to say the DDCA is a much weaker comp is a bit of a stretch.
Some great players in there. (Springy Sth currently have 2 test players in their side, plus Spoljaric and a few others ex Premier players, Berwick are 4th and have 2 former 1st Class players and a couple of premier players including a Ryder medallist)
 

westland

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To date, I am unaware of any suggestion over here, the North and the West, of the 2 turf comps we have, the VSDCA and the VTCA having any intention of being receptive to changing their present 'go it alone' policy. Maybe things are going on behind the scenes but none of the cricket fraternity I regularly meet know any more about what may or may not be going on than I.
 

Round the grounds

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Well Yarraville Club have had a great run but hay someone else will step up to the plate and be a dominant club.
As I know this still the VTCA side until whenever but will say Noble Park if subbies fall over will play CSB not DDCA as the CSB is a much better compilation and will be tested.
If they want to win flag after flag will take the weaker option of the DDCA
The whole point of the CV "regionalisation" program is to have clubs play in the division aligned to their council. In the extremely unlikely event that Subbies votes itself out of existence, Noble will play in the DDCA. CSB stronger than the DDCA, you're on the Cheech and Chongs.
 

westland

Active Member
The whole point of the CV "regionalisation" program is to have clubs play in the division aligned to their council. In the extremely unlikely event that Subbies votes itself out of existence, Noble will play in the DDCA. CSB stronger than the DDCA, you're on the Cheech and Chongs.
The whole point of the CV "regionalisation" program is to have clubs play in the division aligned to their council. In the extremely unlikely event that Subbies votes itself out of existence, Noble will play in the DDCA. CSB stronger than the DDCA, you're on the Cheech and Chongs.
Like you, I am of the view it is an extremely unlikely event the Subbies will vote itself out of existence and ditto in respect to the VTCA. I just cannot understand the reason for the speculative posts of late given my understanding of the situation at this time.
 

George56

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VTCA clubs voting at an AGM to disband the competition is a very realistic scenario. CV have told clubs if this happens they will run it. I don't know many clubs who would vote not to disband the VTCA although the establishment only needs 30% of the vote.
 

westland

Active Member
VTCA clubs voting at an AGM to disband the competition is a very realistic scenario. CV have told clubs if this happens they will run it. I don't know many clubs who would vote not to disband the VTCA although the establishment only needs 30% of the vote.
This very interesting. I recall some months ago reading a post to the effect 18 disaffected VTCA clubs had, or planned to get together, to discuss matters along the lines of your post.
 

Boonie

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This very interesting. I recall some months ago reading a post to the effect 18 disaffected VTCA clubs had, or planned to get together, to discuss matters along the lines of your post.
If Cricket Victoria actually sent out a survey to the clubs asking whether they would prefer alternative management, then I think they would find out that is what they want.

At the moment we have clubs who want change and a move to the southern bayside model, but do not have the means or willingness to tell Cricket Victoria. Clubs are worried about what the VTCA will do in the meantime if they find out clubs want change, they would have personal vendettas against the clubs the orgainsed etc.
 

westland

Active Member
If Cricket Victoria actually sent out a survey to the clubs asking whether they would prefer alternative management, then I think they would find out that is what they want.

At the moment we have clubs who want change and a move to the southern bayside model, but do not have the means or willingness to tell Cricket Victoria. Clubs are worried about what the VTCA will do in the meantime if they find out clubs want change, they would have personal vendettas against the clubs the orgainsed etc.
On the assumption George 56's post is verifiable, it seems to me CV are throwing down the gauntlet; in effect if clubs feel so strongly about disbanding the VTCA they need to have the courage of their convictions by voting to do so at the VTCA's AGM. I think this could give rise to undesirable and messy outcomes and is why I would prefer CV be proactive by offering an alternative competition from the getgo. This also overcomes the percentage issue mentioned in George 56's post.
 

fís shoiléir

New Member
If Cricket Victoria actually sent out a survey to the clubs asking whether they would prefer alternative management, then I think they would find out that is what they want.

At the moment we have clubs who want change and a move to the southern bayside model, but do not have the means or willingness to tell Cricket Victoria. Clubs are worried about what the VTCA will do in the meantime if they find out clubs want change, they would have personal vendettas against the clubs the orgainsed etc.
Cricket Victoria staff are instructed not to approach clubs with the intention of recruiting the clubs to a CV run competition.. This is done out of respect for existing competitions and their other affiliate clubs.

Clubs interested in alternative models such as the proposed CV Regional Model, would be well advised to pick up the phone and call Cricket Victoria and request to speak to the appropriate staff member for their region. Telephone 9085 4000

Most Associations are run for the benefit of their affiliate clubs and go through the appropriate processes which include transparent and appropriate communication. This seems not to be the case in the VTCA. A collective approach by concerned clubs to the Cricket Victoria staff tasked with the restructure is all that is required.

Best of luck.

https://www.cricketvictoria.com.au/melbourne-metro-cricket-strategy-faqs/
 

westland

Active Member
Cricket Victoria staff are instructed not to approach clubs with the intention of recruiting the clubs to a CV run competition.. This is done out of respect for existing competitions and their other affiliate clubs.

Clubs interested in alternative models such as the proposed CV Regional Model, would be well advised to pick up the phone and call Cricket Victoria and request to speak to the appropriate staff member for their region. Telephone 9085 4000

Most Associations are run for the benefit of their affiliate clubs and go through the appropriate processes which include transparent and appropriate communication. This seems not to be the case in the VTCA. A collective approach by concerned clubs to the Cricket Victoria staff tasked with the restructure is all that is required.

Best of luck.

https://www.cricketvictoria.com.au/melbourne-metro-cricket-strategy-faqs/
In regard to the VTCA, I am advised it ceased having a representative on the Steering Committee not long after it was formed and, more recently, ceased to have representation on the North West Zone Consultative Committee due to CV terminating the membership of the VTCA's representative. I believe these events support your contention the VTCA does not meet appropriate communication standards.
 

Turf Cricket

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In regard to the VTCA, I am advised it ceased having a representative on the Steering Committee not long after it was formed and, more recently, ceased to have representation on the North West Zone Consultative Committee due to CV terminating the membership of the VTCA's representative. I believe these events support your contention the VTCA does not meet appropriate communication standards.
The Vtca wanted 4 on the SC, 1 in particular certainly was not welcome.
 

George56

New Member
There are clubs discussing the idea of a vote at the AGM. Where this goes is anyone's guess. CV is a bit stand offish to be honest.
 
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