Vtca Season 2017/18 & 2018/19

westland

Active Member
There are clubs discussing the idea of a vote at the AGM. Where this goes is anyone's guess. CV is a bit stand offish to be honest.
Your post #131 on this page prompted me to access the VTCA's constitution via its home page. I wished to ascertain the provision(s) in the constitution relating to the powers of the clubs to wind up the association. I think the relevant provision may be Part 7, sections 17.1 (b) 17.3(a) the latter requiring a resolution will only have effect if it is passed by at least 75% of Club Delegates present at an AGM or Special GM. I strongly urge clubs seeking to disband the VTCA ask CV for its opinion on what it considers are the constitutional requirement for the winding up of the VTCA. The very last thing is to go into an AGM half-cocked. I also think , if CV is not already aware, it familiarises itself with what challenges would face clubs.
 

westland

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They're not , just waiting till a few clubs show some balls.
I think it crucial clubs seeking to disband the VTCA ascertain if it is the case it will need at least 75% support for the resolution for it to be adopted. In the event this is the case, I think the logistics this would pose for clubs in mobilising this level of support prior to an AGM is remote. I hope CV does not sit on the fence and totally agree with you that it is up to the disaffected clubs to show some getup and go by taking their concerns to CV.
 

Turf Cricket

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I think it crucial clubs seeking to disband the VTCA ascertain if it is the case it will need at least 75% support for the resolution for it to be adopted. In the event this is the case, I think the logistics this would pose for clubs in mobilising this level of support prior to an AGM is remote. I hope CV does not sit on the fence and totally agree with you that it is up to the disaffected clubs to show some getup and go by taking their concerns to CV.
They don't take it to CV , they take it to the dictators and call a meeting of all clubs , like the South did.
 

CrowdedHouse

New Member
VTCA clubs voting at an AGM to disband the competition is a very realistic scenario. CV have told clubs if this happens they will run it. I don't know many clubs who would vote not to disband the VTCA although the establishment only needs 30% of the vote.
As much as the constitution says they need 75% to disband the VTCA, in reality you probably only need half the clubs for the dominos to fall.

Just needs a big chunk of clubs to move a motion to disband, then the momentum will see others (probably enough) get on board - if they are bright enough to see the writing on the wall.

If they just fall short of 75%, they all resign from the VTCA, leaving the remaining clubs with a very small competition - good luck trying to recruit decent players then! It would be situation untenable, and the VTCA would then be forced to disband soon after that.
 

Turf Cricket

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As much as the constitution says they need 75% to disband the VTCA, in reality you probably only need half the clubs for the dominos to fall.

Just needs a big chunk of clubs to move a motion to disband, then the momentum will see others (probably enough) get on board - if they are bright enough to see the writing on the wall.

If they just fall short of 75%, they all resign from the VTCA, leaving the remaining clubs with a very small competition - good luck trying to recruit decent players then! It would be situation untenable, and the VTCA would then be forced to disband soon after that.
Where would the dictators go then?
 
VTCA clubs voting at an AGM to disband the competition is a very realistic scenario. CV have told clubs if this happens they will run it. I don't know many clubs who would vote not to disband the VTCA although the establishment only needs 30% of the vote.
I hear that Moonee valley are thinking of going to the MCA full time from next season but the old guard of the club want to stay either in the VTCA or join any new competition that Cricket Victoria maybe organising
 

westland

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I hear that Moonee valley are thinking of going to the MCA full time from next season but the old guard of the club want to stay either in the VTCA or join any new competition that Cricket Victoria maybe organising
I hope the club has done as suggested by fis shoileir in his post #135 on p7.
 

westland

Active Member
Given the subbies do not intend to take in new clubs next season I guess Strathmore will remain in the VTCA. Perhaps this matter may become clearer at their AGM on 13 May. I do not consider the subbies and VTCA models are sustainable in the long term.
 

Turf Cricket

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Given the subbies do not intend to take in new clubs next season I guess Strathmore will remain in the VTCA. Perhaps this matter may become clearer at their AGM on 13 May. I do not consider the subbies and VTCA models are sustainable in the long term.
They both are not.
 

westland

Active Member
Do I have to resort to alternative sites to get feedback on the VTCA's Presentation Night? Sad this forum is now neglected imo .
 

westland

Active Member
Who’s going to be the strongest side in each comp in the season coming up? And who is going to drop the most?
My info is that a number of clubs are still analysing the effects of the 2019-2020 player points reduction probably making it hard for predictions on next season's performances. That said, I am not well informed on VTCA matters.
 

George56

New Member
In Senior division Strathmore will be strong again. Look for Yarraville Club to bounce back with Trent Lawford although they do have some big outs. Doutta Stars lose there coach will they slide? They seemed to have had there chance over the last two years could possibly drop. Would expect St Francis to be up there again in the North section as always. Westmeadows by all reports have signed some very good players again and will be strong. The promoted clubs from below will both struggle Glenroy and Altona. Glenroy does have one of the best players in the whole of the VTCA though in Steve Goodwin but he's not getting any younger.
 
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Batnball

New Member
What about Div 1, Div 2, Div 3, Div 4 & Div 5?
In Senior division Strathmore will be strong again. Look for Yarraville Club to bounce back with Trent Lawford although they do have some big outs. Doutta Stars lose there coach will they slide? They seemed to have had there chance over the last two years could possibly drop. Would expect St Francis to be up there again in the North section as always. Westmeadows by all reports have signed some very good players again and will be strong. The promoted clubs from below will both struggle Glenroy and Altona. Glenroy does have one of the best players in the whole of the VTCA though in Steve Goodwin but he's not getting any younger.
 

Batnball

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My info is that a number of clubs are still analysing the effects of the 2019-2020 player points reduction probably making it hard for predictions on next season's performances. That said, I am not well informed on VTCA matters.
Any clubs in particular?
 

George56

New Member
What about Div 1, Div 2, Div 3, Div 4 & Div 5?
I don’t know enough about other clubs to comment. Your talking about clubs who spend a lot less money and rely on locals only. I would think it’s harder to predict but there maybe a club or two with money down there.
 

warrior

Member
2 new clubs coming in to lower divisions .Sunbury and also Sanctuary Lakes according to their vtca facebook page.
 
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George56

New Member
2 Senior Division clubs in the west but I decline to name them in order to respect my sources.
This is strange I would hardly think one or two points should make a big difference. All clubs would have players dropping points for loyalty should not be that hard. Maybe they have committed to players seasons ahead.
 
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