Will Ponting represent Australia in the Ashes 2013 campaign?

[Waite]

Will Ponting represent Australia in the Ashes 2013 campaign?

With Tendulkar apparently keen on playing test cricket until he is eligible for the Indian old-age pension, it begs the question whether Ricky Ponting will continue until the Ashes 2013 series.

After all, he is injury-free, will only be 38 at the time of the next away Ashes series and he hasn't exactly been waving his bat to the English crowds in a 'this is my farewell to Old Blighty' fashion (crowd booing aside).

Thoughts?

 

[gbatman]

Re: Will Ponting represent Australia in the Ashes 2013 campaign?

No, his form is declining, if he's still around then it just might be costing us test matches, knowing our selectors he'll still be there making no runs while a few other players stack on the runs in state cricket...

 

[Boris]

Re: Will Ponting represent Australia in the Ashes 2013 campaign?

why not. by then he wont be batting at three, most likely five.

i want him to just so that he can break some records.

also by then i think he shouldnt be captaining.

i would like to see him there. form declinging or not he is still the ninth best batsman in the world. second in australia. 38 centuries. 47 half centuries. four billion runs. second highest catch taker (non wicketkeeper) for australia. highest win percentage as captain for australia. equalled 16 games in a row record. even if he is averaging 10 for his last season i think these stats will cover any bad form he has for 20 years.

 

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

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I have no doubt that if he wanted to then he could easily do it. Despite those who say his form is declining, his still our best batsmen. Clarke doesnt earn that title until he moves up the order and proves he can still score runs.

However, I dont think Ponting would want to keep slogging it out until 2013 even though he probably could if he wanted to. More realistically I think he'll carry on in all forms of the game until after the 2011 WC and then he'll retire - much like McGrath did after the 2007 WC.

Especially now we've all but lost the Ashes - Ponting will want one more chance to get them back. I cant see him retiring after our home summer.

After this we have 3 test matchs against WI, 3 against Pakistan, 2 against NZ and then possibly another 3 against Pakistan in England before the Australian home Ashes series next year.

That seems a more realistic date for Ponting to go out on. Retire from test matchs after the 2010/11 Ashes and ODI's after the 2011 World Cup.

It would be a perfert scenario too, I feel the selectors have a succession plan in place and that it involves exactly the above timeline of events. They said earlier on that Ponting will be captain until the 2011 WC which is basically giving away their and Pontings intentions.

 

[Boris]

Re: Will Ponting represent Australia in the Ashes 2013 campaign?

agreed.

 

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

Re: Will Ponting represent Australia in the Ashes 2013 campaign?

Just looking at Pontings record, if he were to retire after the Ashes that would mean he has 16 test matchs left at the most. Scoring at 45 he'd end up with about 12 500 test match runs.

What a career.

To those fools that say losing the Ashes twice will diminish that career, tell them to get stuffed.

Does FLintoff losing 5-0 diminish his career. Of course not.

Does Warne getting banned for a year for drug taking diminish his career.

Not in the eyes of his fans.

Ponting is a great of our game, he deserves our respect and admiration.

 

[Caesar]

Re: Will Ponting represent Australia in the Ashes 2013 campaign?

Ponting's career as a player has never been under question.

Losing the Ashes twice does sort of tarnish his record as a captain though.

 

[Boris]

Re: Will Ponting represent Australia in the Ashes 2013 campaign?

Just looking at Pontings record, if he were to retire after the Ashes that would mean he has 16 test matchs left at the most. Scoring at 45 he'd end up with about 12 500 test match runs.

What a career.

To those fools that say losing the Ashes twice will diminish that career, tell them to get stuffed.

Does FLintoff losing 5-0 diminish his career. Of course not.

Does Warne getting banned for a year for drug taking diminish his career.

Not in the eyes of his fans.

Ponting is a great of our game, he deserves our respect and admiration.

good post, and i agree.

losing the ashes puts a pressure on him he doesnt need though. he and clarke have to win this next ODI series to make the media forget a little. and the next two series versus the windies and pakistan. and the next ashes. he has to to keep not his record good, but his social status good.

i will always think of him as one of only two captains to get 16 in a row, with a 5-0 ashes win in the middle of it. thats all that matters in my mind. great player and great man.

 

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

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Ponting's career as a player has never been under question.

Losing the Ashes twice does sort of tarnish his record as a captain though.

At the time it may seem like that, but as time passes those type of things are forgotten, maybe not forgotten, but the superb performaces are what is remembered.

If anything these type of things end up being used in friendly banter in the commentary box. Imagine in 6 years Punter and Warnie in the box.

Warnie: Ah come on Punter, you lost the Ashes twice.

Punter: Shut up Warnie, I would have only lost them once if you didnt drop KP.

You don't really remember captainicy records anyway, you remember the player.

Was Steve Waugh's captainicy tarnished by his failure to win in India?

Ponting has been captain for a hell of a long time compared to most other captains, so of course there is going to be more scope for losses to occur.

I just thing people carry on about this "legacy" bullshit, when at the end of the day, a player retires, and a new one takes his place. The player retiring is remembered primarily for his exploits as a player. For which Ponting will be remembered as a true great.

Losing the Ashes twice will be a bit of banter to him after he retires and he wouldnt care less, exactly as it should be.

Compare that to Geoff Boycott when Hayden said that the way Boycott batted emptied cricket grounds. Boycott then stormed out. What a childish act. As far as im concerned, once you retire, you should be open to a bit of banter about your career. Because its history. Who cares.

I dont look at Ponting in a different light because of the loss. I guess though since I have followed cricket Ponting has been playing. When people grow up and get interested in a sport they always have look at the players they first idolized in a different light.

When these players retire then its strange.

 

[AB1]

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Does Warne getting banned for a year for drug taking diminish his career.

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Yes.

 

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

Re: Will Ponting represent Australia in the Ashes 2013 campaign?

Are you English?

I havent heard anyone mention his drug ban since his ban was lifted.

When it happened in 2003 people were jumping on their high horse and carrying on, no-one gives a stuff about it anymore. If anything, it further adds to the legend that is S.K Warne.

PS: the aroma of that 5th day stuffing at adelaide oval in 2006 is still somewhat recongizable in australia on a quiet windless day.

 

[AB1]

Re: Will Ponting represent Australia in the Ashes 2013 campaign?

Are you English?

I havent heard anyone mention his drug ban since his ban was lifted.

When it happened in 2003 people were jumping on their high horse and carrying on, no-one gives a stuff about it anymore. If anything, it further adds to the legend that is S.K Warne.

PS: the aroma of that 5th day stuffing at adelaide oval in 2006 is still somewhat recongizable in australia on a quiet windless day.

You hang onto that mate...

 

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

Re: Will Ponting represent Australia in the Ashes 2013 campaign?

I wont need to, becasuse we'll hammer your rabble next year, in between that I can look forward to SA hammering Eng and then watching Sky and listening to Botham whinge and whine and generally act like a tool as he realises that England really are a ordinary team.

No doubt, after the first flogging all the talk by the commentary will central on the Ashes series in Australai and how much England are going to get flogged by.