breeno
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Re: Aussies lost let's take the easy option and point the finger at the bowlers
Great post, great argument. You exploited the bad argument S2C has, and you didn't do it in a harsh way, you did it with facts.@|
BabyBlues;300648 said:No it doesn't. It states it. It is a statement that is said with misleading authority, and it sucks in people like you who can't tell the difference.
Blaming the pitch and the balls is a much easier way out than actually facing the fact that our bowlers were genuinely sub-standard, surely? As for blaming the batsmen, that's just being contrary for the sake of being contrary (and attention, a technique many hack journos use in order to keep a job).
I still don't get how blaming members of the team is making excuses. The team is out there playing. The team lost. Surely blaming those in the team that failed is being realistic? A blind monkey (evidently more perceptive than your good self) could have seen that our bowlers were going to struggle against SA. Lee is out of sorts. Clark is battling injury. Krejza is inexperienced. We were always in trouble in that department, and people knew that. It has proven to be correct, with our bowlers struggling to take 20 wickets a match. Shifting the blame to the batsmen is just as much making excuses as blaming the bowlers (I don't think either would be, as I said above, but still), except that it is less logical. Add to that the fact that you've also brought in the pitch and balls, which is the definition of making excuses, and you've got a really shitty argument.
1. Ricky Ponting: It's not his job to tutor his players, particularly the bowlers (how many young batsmen have come into the side recently?) His job is to perform with the bat, and make good decisions with regards to the captaincy. He's not doing that.
2. Australia have lost their depth. Exactly. That's what people are saying. We don't have McGrath, Warne, Gilchrist, Langer or Martyn. That's why we're not playing as well as we used to. That's what people are pissed off about.
3. Your point? Are you saying we should be happy losing? We want to go out and win every game we can. When we lose, we want to know why. It's the same for any team. New Zealand lost to Australia because their batsmen failed to perform. That is a fair comment. It has nothing to do with past form. The same is true for Australia against SA, except for us, it was our bowlers not performing.
Seriously, how this all ties into a cohesive argument about the bowlers not being to blame for our loss is beyond me. Nobody is saying that "our bowlers failed, but we're still the best team in the world". People are saying "our bowlers failed, which is why we might no longer be the best team in the world".
Great post, great argument. You exploited the bad argument S2C has, and you didn't do it in a harsh way, you did it with facts.@|