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Where is White at at the moment??
Noticed the score from the Aust "A" tour and he batted at 5 and didn't get a bowl as Pak "A" chased down 330 plus to win..
Wouldn't have thought as much of it (as they have Bailey & Cullen playing also) but Dave Hussey got 5 overs and White didn't bowl.
I would think he needs to be bowling okay to make it at international level??
What do people think about White??
 
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White's bowling is rather ordinary at best and he is predominantly a batter who is a part-time bowler.

White is not a big spinner of the ball despite being a leg-break bowler and I think this is one of his downfalls. His county cricket season in division two for Somerset, particularly in the one-dayers, has been less than inspiring.

Cameron White Pro40 one-day stats (Somerset - division two

Code: 
Mat Overs Mdns Runs Wkts  BBI   Ave   Econ  SR   4 5 Ct St 

2   12.0   0    81    1   1/44 81.00  6.75 72.0  0 0  0  0

He's only played two games but you can hardly say those figures are impressive, in fact they are rather poor especially considering he is playing in division two. Let's compare them with David Hussey's bowling stats,

David Hussey Pro40 one-day stats (Nottinghamshire - division one)

Code: 
Mat Overs Mdns Runs Wkts  BBI  Ave  Econ  SR  4 5 Ct St 

4   11.0   0    57   3   3/26 19.00 5.18 22.0 0 0  1  0

As you can see, Dave Hussey's stats have been a lot more productive, he's playing in the higher division and he is taking more wickets than what White has been. Hussey's average is quite good and his economy is also lower than what White's is.

At the moment, he has fallen behind a number of players in terms of the all-rounder role(s). Shane Watson and Andrew Symonds are Australia's premier one-day all-rounders at the minute. Adam Voges bowled some overs in Chappell-Hadlee series in New Zealand before the World Cup and even Brad Hodge is getting a bowl in the Twenty20 World Cup practice matches. Now Dave Hussey is being preferred in the "A" side and also upcoming Tasmanian all-rounder Luke Butterworth.

White is struggling with his bowling at the present time and to be considered as an all-rounder his bowling will have to improve considerably. Players like D Hussey, Butterworth and Voges are making up ground on him and those spots will become hotly contested in the upcoming Australian summer.
 
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His batting is taylor made for about #5 in 20/20. He plays extremely good cross bat shots but I suspect the other teams would work him out early. He needs to bat when wickets don't matter.

As for his bowling, Lehmann was better, and he wasn't regarded as a bowler until very late in his career.
 
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He nearly played a test match remember and it would have been as a bowler. Remember it was in India when Warne got injured and MacGill wasn't selected as a backup. So they only had White and Hauritz as backup bowlers and I suppose the selectors thought neither of them were a hope in hell of playing but some Indian fan accidentally broke Warne's finger in the nets I think. So they had a choice out of Hauritz and White, and they picked Hauritz (for the record, he took 5 wickets for the match but Michael Clarke took 6 in the 2nd innings). Anyway that pitch was a spinner's paradise and Hauritz and Clarke, not big spinners of the ball, were turning it from 1 side of the pitch to the other ridiculously. So while White's light years away from playing Test cricket, he nearly got a chance to all those years ago. But it's hard for him if the selectors keep picking him and telling him he's in the team for his bowling, batting, both, they and White need to decide what to concentrate on NOW.
 
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White's bowling is utter crap. Has potential as an explosive batsman, should have been selected for the 20/20 World Cup.
 
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white bowls like anil kumble but without the wickets, if he can manage to turn it he would be good at test lvl, still needs work but with his batting potential, cameron white at 8 doesnt sound too bad does it?
 
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oh and something i wanna ask, wat the hell has happened to Katich, hes scoring triple centuries but hes never given a go(not saying jaques should be cut) im just saying his last test match he scored a century and won us the game, why did they cut him?
 
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breeno;192997 said:
white bowls like anil kumble but without the wickets, if he can manage to turn it he would be good at test lvl, still needs work but with his batting potential, cameron white at 8 doesnt sound too bad does it?
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Kumble turns it more than White. White is a batsman who can bowl a bit, nothing more.

White would be a good Twenty20 batsman, his hitting ability would be very suited to being a number six or seven in the batting order. He would have to improve his batting in order to get a regular berth in the ODI side. Tests are a long way off.

breeno said:
oh and something i wanna ask, wat the hell has happened to Katich, hes scoring triple centuries but hes never given a go(not saying jaques should be cut) im just saying his last test match he scored a century and won us the game, why did they cut him?
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Actually, he was out for a duck in his last test innings.

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/223889.html

Katich had his chance and blew it. His last ten test innings yielded only 156 runs at an average of 15.6 which is simply not good enough for test level. Katich's last test was Mike Hussey's debut test match, who at that time was in brilliant form at domestic level and was replacing an injured Justin Langer.

Langer came back, so essentially Hussey and Katich were fighting for the number five position which was the final batters spot remaining. The selectors decided to go with Hussey who was in stellar form in the Ashes series one-dayers plus strong domestic performances over an out of form Katich who was struggling for runs.

Even though Katich is batting very well now, his hopes of making the test side are quite slim. There are now quite a few players ahead of him in the pecking order, Adam Voges is one that comes to mind. Voges is a chance of playing some one-day games for Australia this summer.

The only way Katich could play for Australia again is if the current players pick up a few injuries.
 
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Because Katich a terrible cricketer, too slow from One Day cricket and just not good enough at Test Level, as his record shows, given numerous Test Matches to prove himself and averages mid-thirties
 
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Kumble and White are similar in that they are both very tall, quickish, more bouncy legspinners, but the difference between Kumble and White is that Kumble can afford to bowl the way he bowls because he was brought up on pitches that are spinner's paradises. Melbourne hardly produce grounds that are like heaven for spinners. Also, as great as Kumble is, his record overseas is nowhere near as good as in India. White's normal deliveries are around the 85-100km range. Perhaps he should slow his deliveries down to a more Warne like 75-80km and try and work on a big turning legbreak. He should also use his normal speed of delviery right now as a shock weapon, rather than as a normal delivery (like Shahid Afridi, he has a dangerous quicker ball that can be 120+ks!)
 
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thanks for the info guys, i still think katich is an alright cricketer and your right with white, but if he works on his bowling and on his batting a dad in the next 5 yrs dont be surprised to see him at test level
 
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katich is a dud however cam white is a very good prospect for the future, as is a young man i saw play recently called Matthew Parker, plays in melbourne for camberwell and is a very similar player to white, perhaps bowls better then he bats but wouldnt be suprised to see him in a vic or and aussie shirt in the near future
 
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I don't care how many runs Katich makes at domestic level, he will always be a dud on the international scene like Brad Hodge, both average protecting players that play for themselves.
 
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breeno;192999 said:
oh and something i wanna ask, wat the hell has happened to Katich, hes scoring triple centuries but hes never given a go(not saying jaques should be cut) im just saying his last test match he scored a century and won us the game, why did they cut him?
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what are you on about? katich was given many chances and never took them at test level, hodge has never been given any chances at all.
 
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^^Hodgey has had quite a few chances, the only decent test score he made was the double ton at the WACCA that he he ground out on a flat deck. He has always failed in the tough conditions or when it really counts. Solid state player that failed at the international level.

He's too old anyway almost 33, time to give some younger blokes a go, someone with talent . .
 
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Kram81;199383 said:
^^Hodgey has had quite a few chances, the only decent test score he made was the double ton at the WACCA that he he ground out on a flat deck. He has always failed in the tough conditions or when it really counts. Solid state player that failed at the international level.

He's too old anyway almost 33, time to give some younger blokes a go, someone with talent . .
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still dont agree that hodgey is a dud, but yeah, it probably is time to give someone else a shot. but the thing is, the scene of young batsman in australia isnt looking that good.
 
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