Krezja or White for first test?

Krezja, White or No spinner?

  • Jason Krezja

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cameron White

    Votes: 8 40.0%
  • No Spinner

    Votes: 12 60.0%

  • Total voters
    20
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

eddiesmith;277040 said:
Or maybe other than the fact he is crap, after McGains injury they didnt want to risk another unfit player as Casson had also gone home from the A tour with an injury

Despite Casson being unavailable, it doesn't change the fact that White has been very ordinary. I hope Krejza plays the final test regardless of whether the series is dead or not. Shane Warne took 1/150-odd in his first test but became the best bowler the world has ever seen. Krejza should be given the same opportunity.
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

a for effort;277016 said:
To add insult to injury, Katich bowls about the same speed as Casson
Cricinfo had an interesting little article about just this issue......

What it also exposed is why the selectors chose to leave Beau Casson, the left-arm wrist-spinner, in Australia. Nobody knows whether the bowler, whose debut came in the West Indies, will develop into an international bowler, but he is a far better exponent of spin than his New South Wales captain Katich, who has been Australia's most dangerous slow option in this match.

Katich has turned the ball into the batsmen and delivered some loose offerings, but he has created moments of danger. If a part-time spinner can do it, a specialist would have been able to achieve more. Australia's only full-time slow bowler in the squad is Krejza, the offspinner who struggled so badly in one of the two tour games.

Delaying Katich's bowling involvement in the series may be because Australia have not wanted to admit a mistake in not choosing the similarly-styled Casson. Katich has showed that Casson could have been productive. He's not in India, so Australia need to use the bowlers who look like having some impact rather than none. In the first innings, Watson, Clark and Katich proved to be the best options. On another day it will be someone else. Ponting must recognise the man and the moment.

Cricinfo - What could have been ...
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

Ljp86;277083 said:
Despite Casson being unavailable, it doesn't change the fact that White has been very ordinary. I hope Krejza plays the final test regardless of whether the series is dead or not. Shane Warne took 1/150-odd in his first test but became the best bowler the world has ever seen. Krejza should be given the same opportunity.

Yet if Hayden wasnt so old and slow and Rudi a moron, White would have about 8-10 wickets this series, Australia might not be 1-0 down and less would be abusing him

I really hope Hayden has retired before McGain returns
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

eddiesmith;277189 said:
Yet if Hayden wasnt so old and slow and Rudi a moron, White would have about 8-10 wickets this series, Australia might not be 1-0 down and less would be abusing him

I really hope Hayden has retired before McGain returns

Jesus, it's never White's fault is it? It's always someone elses.

White has bowled ordinary in this series, at least admit that he has bowled below his best. Errors happen all the time and if the bowler is good enough, then those wicket opportunities would present themselves again. Warne did it, Murali does it, so did McGrath. Just not good enough at the moment.
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

eddiesmith;277189 said:
Yet if Hayden wasnt so old and slow and Rudi a moron, White would have about 8-10 wickets this series, Australia might not be 1-0 down and less would be abusing him

I really hope Hayden has retired before McGain returns

Awful, awful post.

White is a shit bowler in the 5 day game. His efforts with the ball, deplorable.

Admit it, be a man.
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

Both White and Krejza are reasonably new to the team all because we are trying to find ourselves another Shane Warne type spinner.....:rolleyes:
Stupid poll.
Andrew Symonds is the best spinner. White is the replacement bowler.
lol White just got bowled by Sehwag.
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

eddiesmith;277189 said:
Yet if Hayden wasnt so old and slow and Rudi a moron, White would have about 8-10 wickets this series, Australia might not be 1-0 down and less would be abusing him

I really hope Hayden has retired before McGain returns

McGain will probably retire due to the nasty shoulder injury that he has got.
McGain is 36 and an old fart. He won't even make his debut.
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

im interested to see how krejza bowls to the other indian batsmen
i saw him get tonked by yuvraj the other day for about 200 or 100 off 30 overs or something..

could lose us teh match if he bowls badly lol
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

I'd say neither and bring in doug bollinger because what australia are really lacking is a genuine swing bowler, and he consistently swings away from the left hander. Instead of the spinners, i'd play clarke and katich as part timers
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

It seem outrageous the Australia would even consider playing a test in India without a frontline spinner. The only thing that could/should stop Krezja from playing is the selectors still not wanting to concede that they ballsed up by picking White
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

a for effort;277966 said:
It seem outrageous the Australia would even consider playing a test in India without a frontline spinner. The only thing that could/should stop Krezja from playing is the selectors still not wanting to concede that they ballsed up by picking White
Um who says that Krezja's a frontline spinner? He's not, neither is White. But White is the preferred spinner whilst Roy is out of the team.
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

schwab2clarkson;278000 said:
Um who says that Krezja's a frontline spinner? He's not, neither is White. But White is the preferred spinner whilst Roy is out of the team.

Krezja is most definitely a frontline spinner, in that his primary job is to bowl spin. White, on the other hand, whilst playing for Victoria, was a batsmen who occasionally bowled, and with limited success.

Exchange Symonds for White and my point would still be valid. Square pegs for round holes
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

a for effort;278001 said:
Krezja is most definitely a frontline spinner, in that his primary job is to bowl spin. White, on the other hand, whilst playing for Victoria, was a batsmen who occasionally bowled, and with limited success.

Exchange Symonds for White and my point would still be valid. Square pegs for round holes
Krezja is not a frontline spinner. Never was and never has been a frontline spinner.
White is a Leg spin bowler. The pitches over in india don't suit the australian spinners.
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

schwab2clarkson;278007 said:
Krezja is not a frontline spinner. Never was and never has been a frontline spinner.
White is a Leg spin bowler. The pitches over in india don't suit the australian spinners.
Actually Suzi, Krezja is a frontline spinner- that's his primary purpose in a team- to bowl spin- whether he's any good or not is a totally different argument! ;)

White & Symonds are not picked to be the primary spinner- they are picked because they can bat a bit as well as bowl spin, Symonds is not the best spinner in Australia, and with Watson actually doing well, will struggle to make it back into the squad as the "all rounder".

They will pick an actual spinner for the up-coming series in Oz- and it won't be Symo. ;)
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

el-capitano;278011 said:
Actually Suzi, Krezja is a frontline spinner- that's his primary purpose in a team- to bowl spin- whether he's any good or not is a totally different argument! ;)

White & Symonds are not picked to be the primary spinner- they are picked because they can bat a bit as well as bowl spin, Symonds is not the best spinner in Australia, and with Watson actually doing well, will struggle to make it back into the squad as the "all rounder".

They will pick an actual spinner for the up-coming series in Oz- and it won't be Symo. ;)
Well Krezja isn't bowling as well as a frontline spinner should be then. Which suggests that I am correct. Krezja is not a frontline bowler at this level. He might be at State level but this is much higher for him.
 
Re: Krezja or White for first test?

Krezja doing well in the face of an Indian onslaught.

After going for 10.2 runs p/o he has managed to peg it back to 6 p/o.

With 2 wickets.
 
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