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Malinga da Slinga

I never thought about it until I saw discussion on a match report at another site. Does anyone here think he is chucking? His delivery seems fine to me.
 
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Nah

People love to dish out that accusation these days. He's a slinger..slingers don't chuck. A very pure natural action, akin to Thommo. Tait also has a similar action but Malinga's is smooth and beautiful.
 
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Sunstroke;149836 said:
Nah

People love to dish out that accusation these days. He's a slinger..slingers don't chuck. A very pure natural action, akin to Thommo. Tait also has a similar action but Malinga's is smooth and beautiful.
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He actually looks like that he chucks the ball because of how where his arm is. It is as though it is 45 degrees which means that he has a very dodgey action.
 
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See, I'm not sure about the exact wording of the laws surrounding chucking, but something doesn't look right about his delivery. If anything, I find it strange that nobody else uses that kind of action, because it seems ridiculously effective, especially in getting some reverse swing.

On a totally unrelated point, I HATE the term 'reverse swing'. What is it the reverse of? It IS possible to swing the ball both ways with "normal" swing.
 
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Wilbix;149926 said:
See, I'm not sure about the exact wording of the laws surrounding chucking, but something doesn't look right about his delivery. If anything, I find it strange that nobody else uses that kind of action, because it seems ridiculously effective, especially in getting some reverse swing.

On a totally unrelated point, I HATE the term 'reverse swing'. What is it the reverse of? It IS possible to swing the ball both ways with "normal" swing.
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reverse swing is when the ball is warn out on all sides. Normally you have a shiny side on one side, that will be on the other side of the ball.
 
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Wilbix;149926 said:
On a totally unrelated point, I HATE the term 'reverse swing'. What is it the reverse of? It IS possible to swing the ball both ways with "normal" swing.
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Reverse swing is when the ball does not do the traditional swing, and insted goes the other way. Usually the ball will swing to the rough up side, with the shiney side pushing it to the opposite way. EG: If the shiney side is on the fight hand side of the ball when bowled, it will move to the left (outswinger).

Reverse occurs when after usually 40-55 overs. The ball has been layered with spit/sweat on the shiney side usually to keep it trying to swing. But after a while the ball is so soaked that insted of traditional swing, it will move away due to it being to heavy. Hence the term reverse swing. It is the most effective delivery in the later overs of a days test play as the ball will swing very late and is very hard to pick up. England used it to great effect when they beat the Aussies in the Ashes, they are great exponents of it.

Hope that helped @|
 
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pidgeon fan;149924 said:
He actually looks like that he chucks the ball because of how where his arm is. It is as though it is 45 degrees which means that he has a very dodgey action.
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Have you ever watched his action in slow motion?
 
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The Truth about Malinga's action revealed. “He’s come through playing tennis ball cricket, hence his exaggerated low arm action,” said coach Tom Moody in response to a particularly vague question from a BBC reporter on Saturday.
 
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pidgeon fan;149924 said:
He actually looks like that he chucks the ball because of how where his arm is. It is as though it is 45 degrees which means that he has a very dodgey action.
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That does not follow. The fact that he bowls with a low arm angle is irrelevant (as long as he's not bowling underarm!). The only thing that matters is whether the elbow straightens or not; it is allowed to bend, but not straighten.

Here is a quotation from Law 24 (No ball):

3. Definition of fair delivery - the arm
A ball is fairly delivered in respect of the arm if, once the bowler's arm has reached the level of the shoulder in the delivery swing, the elbow joint is not straightened partially or completely from that point until the ball has left the hand. This definition shall not debar a bowler from flexing or rotating the wrist in the delivery swing.

And here is some clarification from an ICC document entitled "Regulations for the Review of Bowlers with Suspected Illegal Bowling Actions":

6. Acceptable level of Elbow Extension
This should be set at a maximum of 15 degrees ‘Elbow extension’ for all bowlers and types of deliveries. This specifically refers to extension of the forearm relative to the upper arm to the straight position. Elbow hyperextension or adduction is not included in the 15-degree tolerance threshold. It should be noted that in order for the action to be classified as a legal action, the degree of ‘elbow extension’ recorded for each delivery should be within the 15 degree limit.
Appendix A: Movements.
Flexion - This movement takes place about a transverse axis and is a description of the
movement that occurs when you move your arm forward. It is described as the
approximation (moving closer together) of two ventral surfaces of the body e.g. flexing the elbow joint. There are a number of situations where this rule doesn't seem to apply e.g. at the ankle where the terms dorsi and plantar flexion are used to avoid confusion.
Extension - This movement is the opposite of flexion; it also takes place about a transverse axis and occurs when you approximate two dorsal surfaces e.g. straightening the elbow.
Hyperextension - An abnormal movement beyond the normal limit of extension, such as
more than the 180 degrees of extension of the knee or elbow joints.
Abduction and Adduction - These movements take place about an antero-posterior axis
and occur when the arm is taken sideways away from the body (abduction) and returned
from such a position to the side of the body (adduction).
 
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Malinga's action is not orthodox but it is clean as a whistle. There is nothing "dodgey" about it. His arm comes around rather than straight.

As for chucking, I'm all for it. Plus it gives the spinners more to work with. If Murali can do it, why not everybody?

Cricket is too biased in favour of batsmen these days. With all that protective gear and the bouncer rule, it's time to even out the playing field.

Let the bowlers chuck!
 
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Stamislav : Did you find the Laws online? Or do you have a hard copy? I tried looking for them a while back but then was told they were actually "copyrighted" and not available.
 
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They're very easy to find online. Just go to www.lords.org and click on "Laws and Spirit" at the top of the homepage.
 
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I just heard about Malinga a couple days ago when I came across a highlight of his. To be honest, I don't follow S.L with the exception of Murali. I was astounded by his pace and fierce bouncers. But I immediatley thought " that action looks illegal, like I was watching a baseball pitcher". But I surmized that it must be legal or he would be called on it. This guy is one fast intimidating bowler, more so that Shoab in my opinion. The one negative about Cricket is everyone has their opinion about what is or isn't chucking. Bottom line is that Malinga looks like he is chucking more than anyone I have ever seen but it's obviously legal.
 
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theswami;150259 said:
Bottom line is that Malinga looks like he is chucking more than anyone I have ever seen but it's obviously legal.
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How so? Does his elbow appear to straighten in the delivery? If it does not, then it does not look like he's chucking.
 
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