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hi, i've been on holiday so i haven't netted or even bowled in a fortnight. I got back on friday night at 10:30 pm nd played at 11 saturday morning. The second team captain encouraged me to go in the net to have a practice. I never streched ( don't know why????) and when i tried to go for extra pace my shoulder made a clicking noise and the muscle at the front ,avove and right to your pec on my right shoulder (r.h bowler) and the pain continues under my armpit, and towards my bicep. It doesn't hurt all the time but supporting weight hurts and certain positions. Basically what have i done do you think and what should i do to fix it?

thanks phil
 
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I had a similar injury recently. Although some stretches would be said to help, nothing worked better than some rest and taking it easy in nets for a while.
 
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Ooooh! Phil! I shall not lecture you on a good warm up; I think you have learned the hard way ;)

The rotator cuff muscles are so important and so neglected by cricketers. Just think... these muscles [supraspinatus, subscapularis, infraspinatus and teres minor] not only generate the force needed by contracting concentrically but also applying a break action through an eccentric contraction to prevent the arm from leaving the body... and it all happens in less than two seconds :eek:

It sounds like you have pulled/strained/ruptured your subscapularis and supraspinatus. You need to take some ibuprofen if you are not allergic to it and rest a couple of weeks :(

Oh, and take a look at:

http://www.harrowdrive.com/how-to-protect-your-shoulder-from-cricket-injury/
 
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Just for the wondering- is it worth using deep heat or similar products?
should i completley rest i.e no swimming, football etc
what made the clicking noise?
 
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I use a sports balm, which is similar to Deep Heat, it is stronger, thinner and more penetrating but Deep Heat will do. A heat pad/hot water bottle is good too.

When I say 'rest', I mean 'active rest'. You should not completely rest as the muscles seize up. You do need to hold off the bowling/throwing but you can play football [as long as you don't fall over :D]. Swimming is trickier; it depends on the extent of the injury. Swim without pain; the weight bearing quality of the water will help but if you feel any pain, stop.

After activity, ice and ibuprofen.

There are many things that could have caused the clicking. Does it still click
 
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no, it was one loud click the immediate moment it hurt

and i have another product called "sports balm" by VULKAN is it better then deep heat
 
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phil2oo8 said:
no, it was one loud click the immediate moment it hurt
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Good, that suggests there is no tear.

It must be remembered that the socket of the shoulder ball-and-socket joint is so shallow that it provides very little stability. This is why the rotator cuff muscles are so important; they are responsible for maintaining stability in this area. I sounds like the ball slipped out of alignment causing the 'click' and straining these muscles as they tried [and succeeded] to do their job. You really do need to look after them now so that they can continue to do their job.

phil2oo8 said:
...i have another product called "sports balm" by VULKAN is it better then deep heat
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I use Mueller Sports Balm, if the Vulkan product is the same then yes. Does the bottle list the ingredients?
 
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That's good. Read the label and whatever you do, make sure you don't overdose. If you have any difficulty and/or if anything changes, please let me know immediately.
 
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right i've been icing, ibrofrening, heating nd sports balming my shoulder since sundee ( did it on saturday the injury) nd it is nearly back 2 100% id problee say 95%... im plannin on avin a light net on mundee just 2 test it nd loosen up again after a long strech obviously.... nd maybe ( i dno) play a 20-20 on tuesdee nd bowl 2 0vers 2 loosen up.... so thts another 4 days rest with treating it.... do u think i should or rest longer
 
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See how it goes mundee ;)

Use the sports balm [watch you don't overdose] and warm up thoroughly.

If you feel pain during warm up. STOP!
If there is no pain during warm up test it.

If you feel pain during the test. STOP!
If there is no pain during test, give it a go.

Do not even think about it if you feel pain. It will put you out for the rest of the season at best and can cause irreparable damage at worse.

Let me know how it goes.
 
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hi liz
update is that the orgianal pain as definatley stopped hurting alot, although i can still feel it wen i bowl as more of a laggy, stiffness if u can understand nd feels a bit pully wen i bowl aswell. it feels like it is hurting now more towards the latissimus dorsi under my arm but thats the pain i usually get after bowling for the first time in a while. What do you think i should do about the pully feeling? Should i continue resting it?
 
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Liz, some of the girls were complaining of sore quads or something this morning to our form teacher (Also PE teacher and ex VFL (second highest Aussie Rules [AFL] comp in Australia) after we did sprints on Monday. They were saying that we should of streched and that would of prevented the soreness. He said that a proper warm up, ie gradually building up your running speed is a better warm up for sprints than just stretching because if you stretch then sprint directly afterwards it would be bad (didn't really catch this part of the conversation) because your heart rate would go from low to high in a short space of time, whereas gradually building up your speed would also gradually build up your heart rate. He also said the soreness was from DOMS not injury.

Just wondering, is that true? I mean, I may have completely misheard the conversation because I was talking to my mates at the same time, but I know he was talking about warm ups being more beneficial than just stretching, heart rate, something about quads and DOMS.
 
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phil2oo8 said:
hi liz
update is that the orgianal pain as definatley stopped hurting alot, although i can still feel it wen i bowl as more of a laggy, stiffness if u can understand nd feels a bit pully wen i bowl aswell. it feels like it is hurting now more towards the latissimus dorsi under my arm but thats the pain i usually get after bowling for the first time in a while. What do you think i should do about the pully feeling? Should i continue resting it?
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You need to mobilise it more Phil, not just during training/playing but during the day. Medially and laterally rotate the shoulder, abduct and adduct and stretch:
Arm across your chest, hold with non-stretching arm and look over the shoulder of your stretched side.
Lean over to one one side, arm stretched over your head and then slightly rotate at the waist to stretch the lats.

You need much longer warm ups before activity and you must stretch after. Use the balm before the warm up.
 
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Your PE teacher is absolutely right Jonesy... so refreshing :D

So many injuries are caused during sprints due to static stretching immediately prior to them.

PS: You'll learn a lot more from listening to your teacher than talking to your friends :laugh:
 
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