Super Eights - England vs South Africa

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Super Eights - England vs South Africa

Well, probably the most crucial game of the Super Eights so far is in progress with England taking on South Africa.

England won the toss and that is all that has gone right for them at the moment. They are in strugglesville at the moment with little people left to bail them out of theit horrible situation they have at present.

They are currently 6/120 in the 36th over. They have lost 3/8 from the last 16 balls and they have really slumped here with Flintoff just being dismissed for just 5.

Earlier, England lost Ian Bell cheaply with Michael Vaughan following a while later for a very scratchy 17. Kevin Pietersen fell soon after for just three with the catch being taken by South African captain Graeme Smith who was extremely elated. Smith and Pietersen do not like each other at all since Pietersen's defection to England.

From there, a good partnership formed between Andrew Strauss and Paul Collingwood which realised 58. Since then though, they've lost constant wickets. Hall and Nel both have two wickets for the South Africans with Langeveldt and Kallis a wicket each.

England really struggling at the minute.
 
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Oh dear, Paul Nixon snicks one to Boucher off the bowling of Andrew Hall. Nixon fell in the very same over as Flintoff.

Hall has 3/15 off seven overs, brilliant bowling.

England are 7/121 after 36 overs. Andre Nel just bowled an over as I type this and the original post.
 
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And another, all falling apart for England I'm afraid. Sajid Mahmood goes first ball to Andrew Hall who is on fire at the minute. Mahmood plays on to his stumps off a Hall inswinger and England's innings is in tatters right now.

8/121 in the 38th over.

Monty Panesar is the new man in and almost gives Hall his hattrick.

Ravi Bopara is the only recognized batsmen left and boy does he have ajob to do here.
 
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South Africa 157 for 1 (Smith 89*, de Villiers 42) beat England 154 (Strauss 46, Hall 5-18, Nel 3-35)


wow, stunner result for England. SA did it in easy fashion, with Nel claiming four wickets in nine balls which, alongside Jacques Kallis's removal of Andrew Strauss created a shuddering collapse from 111 for 3 to 121 for 8
 
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aussieman;154243 said:
how pathetic are england.
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Pretty pathetic. Here's a couple of interesting facts I managed to find,

England's wins in 2007 World Cup:
- Bangladesh (4 wickets)
- Ireland (48 runs)
- Kenya (7 wickets)
- Canada (51 runs)

England's (recent and rare) CWC wins v Test nations:

2007: Bangladesh (4 wkts)
2003: Pakistan (112 runs)
1999: Sri Lanka (8 wkts), Zimbabwe (7 wkts)
1996: -

Quite amazing that they were still in contention for a semi-final spot despite playing so poorly. None of those teams they have beaten in this tournament are any good with the exception of Bangladesh who managed to defeat India and South Africa somehow although I don't know how they did it. And I wouldn't really consider Bangladesh a powerhouse either with their insipid effort against Ireland.

I think this shows how bad they are at the one-day game. Perhaps it is time for a change of scenery.
 
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well Michael Vaughan was given the old jeer by the crowd when he spoke to the commentators on the field at the end of the match. :rolleyes: what a world.

That's how bad it was: not even the supporters like him anymore

I've NEVER thought Michael Vaughan was good enough for the one day team: but that's just my thoughts.
 
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aussieman;154400 said:
well Michael Vaughan was given the old jeer by the crowd when he spoke to the commentators on the field at the end of the match. :rolleyes: what a world.

That's how bad it was: not even the supporters like him anymore

I've NEVER thought Michael Vaughan was good enough for the one day team: but that's just my thoughts.
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Vaughan has always been crap at ODI's. He is totally useless. The guy averages less than 26 runs per match now which for a batsmen is rather pathetic. He still doesn't have an ODI century even though he opens and his fielding is less than impressive. He rarely bowls either.

I really don't know why he is in the team. Perhaps he is there as a specialist captain maybe because there is no-one else capable of leading the English team since Flintoff's boat antics. What is certain is that their one-day attitude needs a total overhaul.

It seems to me that England still don't care what happens in the one-day arena, an attitude that is wrong considering the World Cup is based on 50 overs a side cricket. There are players in the side that shouldn't be there, Vaughan just doesn't cut the mustard anymore. Paul Nixon is a short-sighted option and shouldn't be in the team. There is no point having a 37 year old in the side, they should be blooding a young keeper, one that is going to be around for at least the next 10 years. Either Prior or Chris Read should be given a go.

Mahmood and Anderson are also questionable inclusions. Both players were absolutely carted against South Africa especially Mahmood who many batsmen take a liking to. When Simon Jones comes back I'd like to see him playing in the English line-up, same with Matthew Hoggard, a player who should be in the team although I can't figure out why he isn't there. Hoggard swings the ball a mile in test cricket and while the white ball swings less than the red one, surely he'd be a valuable asset to the English squad?

England really need to pull their socks up when it comes to one-day cricket. They need to have a more positive attitude to that aspect of the game.
 
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Ljp86;154582 said:
It seems to me that England still don't care what happens in the one-day arena, an attitude that is wrong considering the World Cup is based on 50 overs a side cricket. There are players in the side that shouldn't be there, Vaughan just doesn't cut the mustard anymore. Paul Nixon is a short-sighted option and shouldn't be in the team. There is no point having a 37 year old in the side, they should be blooding a young keeper, one that is going to be around for at least the next 10 years. Either Prior or Chris Read should be given a go.
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I disagree with you about Nixon. If there is any time for a short-term solution, the World Cup is it. Nixon has scored 155 runs at 38.75 this World Cup at a run a ball, the highest strike rate of any England player.

42* vs. New Zealand
23* vs. Canada
DNB vs. Kenya
19 vs. Ireland
42 vs. Sri Lanka
8 vs. Australia
20* vs. Bangladesh
1 vs. Australia
 
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Stamislav;155170 said:
I disagree with you about Nixon. If there is any time for a short-term solution, the World Cup is it. Nixon has scored 155 runs at 38.75 this World Cup at a run a ball, the highest strike rate of any England player.

42* vs. New Zealand
23* vs. Canada
DNB vs. Kenya
19 vs. Ireland
42 vs. Sri Lanka
8 vs. Australia
20* vs. Bangladesh
1 vs. Australia
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Nixon probably has one year of international cricket left in him, if that. There is no point playing a person so close to retirement. In a few years time, Nixon most likely won't be playing county cricket, let alone international cricket so the search will once again happen to find another player to keep wicket for England.

He is a band-aid solution to a big problem they have at the moment. England should be blooding a couple of young keepers in the side to find a player that will service the team for the next 10 to 15 years, not one or two.
 
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Left on a business trip Friday and had little time to follow this match, but yeah, have to agree with the assessment of England
 
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