The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

Should we split the wicket-keepers for Tests and ODI's when Adam Gilchrist retires?

  • Yes

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No

    Votes: 4 50.0%

  • Try it for one season and see what happens

    Votes: 4 50.0%
  • Total voters
    8
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The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

I think that there is a fairly good chance that Adam Gilchrist might retire after the World Cup. If we win the Ashes and the World Cup, I'd be almost willing to bet money on it- he seems to be pretty sick of the travelling involved, and he's not getting any younger. He's still the best wicket-keeper going around, but unlike some members of the team, I don't think he's going to stick around forever until he gets the famous 'tap on the shoulder' from the selectors.

So if he retires, it is pretty clear that Brad Haddin will replace him in the ODI side, and he's got enough talent both as a keeper and as a batsman to do justice to the job, although no one expects him to score 6,000 runs at a strike rate north of 90 and take 350+ dismissals. I'm fine with that.

I'm not so sure though, that he's the man for the job so far as the Test team goes. From watching a little bit this summer on Fox Sports, I've been hugely impressed with the glovework of Queensland's Chris Hartley, and I think that his batting may be good enough to do the sort of job for Australia that Ian Healey used to do.

I just wanted to get a feel about what other readers think. Should we split the wicket-keeping responsibilities again when Gilly hangs up his gloves for the last time? I think it might be worth a try.
 
Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

Haddin should replace Gilly in both forms of the game, until one of Hartley, Ronchi, Crosthwaite or Paine starts to put their stamp on the game.
 
Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

Paine showed a bit in the game just been, knocking up 161 (could be a little off) and 60-odd.
 
Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

Haddin is clearly the next in line and very deserving. Great leadership skills, sensational keeper, better than Gilly with the gloves and can bat anywhere.

I think his series against the WI and India was a breakthrough series for him where he showed he can rebuild innings and then smash runs when required. Made a very important 70 and hit a number of 40s.

Hartley, Crosthwaite, Paine and Ronchi have a long long way to go yet.
 
Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

Haddin to take over in both forms.
 
Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

Haddin is currently next in line in both forms of the game, however he will be on the wrong side of 30 by the time Gilly gives it away.

The selectors realise this, which is why they are keeping a close eye on Hartley and co. With some good performances they may overlook Haddin for a younger, more long-term option when Gilly goes.
 
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bring in ronchi dont replace a 36 year old with a 32 year old ( isnt he? )
 
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havent seen alot of ronchi, is he good enough to be a world class keeper? sorry if its been asked but what happened to robbie campbell??
 
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Ryan Campbell retired last year, boy he went downhill fast... maybe Ronchi is the answer, if not then I reckon a Tim Paine or an Addy Crosthwaite, just dont rate Hartley.
 
Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

SouthSwans;110243 said:
Ryan Campbell retired last year, boy he went downhill fast... maybe Ronchi is the answer, if not then I reckon a Tim Paine or an Addy Crosthwaite, just dont rate Hartley.
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I like Ronchi because he is super aggressive and can match Gilchrist!
 
Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

Bundy_Dry&Lime;109513 said:
I think that there is a fairly good chance that Adam Gilchrist might retire after the World Cup. If we win the Ashes and the World Cup, I'd be almost willing to bet money on it- he seems to be pretty sick of the travelling involved, and he's not getting any younger. He's still the best wicket-keeper going around, but unlike some members of the team, I don't think he's going to stick around forever until he gets the famous 'tap on the shoulder' from the selectors.

So if he retires, it is pretty clear that Brad Haddin will replace him in the ODI side, and he's got enough talent both as a keeper and as a batsman to do justice to the job, although no one expects him to score 6,000 runs at a strike rate north of 90 and take 350+ dismissals. I'm fine with that.

I'm not so sure though, that he's the man for the job so far as the Test team goes. From watching a little bit this summer on Fox Sports, I've been hugely impressed with the glovework of Queensland's Chris Hartley, and I think that his batting may be good enough to do the sort of job for Australia that Ian Healey used to do.

I just wanted to get a feel about what other readers think. Should we split the wicket-keeping responsibilities again when Gilly hangs up his gloves for the last time? I think it might be worth a try.
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Brad Haddin is 29 years of age and is getting a bit old. I think Gilly will play next season and that would make Brad Haddin 31 after that. We should be looking for a player such as Tim Paine, can bat, young very good behind the stumps. The guy is only 22 years old, he was also under 19 Australian Captain so he has good leadership skills. My votes with Tim Paine.

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Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

Brad Haddin all the way, clearly the best keeper and batsman after Gilchrist.

Hartley after that, Ronchi too inconsistent, Crosthwaite struggling at Vics, Paine not enough experience.
 
Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

SouthSwans;110243 said:
Ryan Campbell retired last year, boy he went downhill fast... maybe Ronchi is the answer, if not then I reckon a Tim Paine or an Addy Crosthwaite, just dont rate Hartley.
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wow really, hhmmmmm mmk didnt expect him to do that... he was look alright early on...
 
Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

Bennycoff;110403 said:
Brad Haddin all the way, clearly the best keeper and batsman after Gilchrist.

Hartley after that, Ronchi too inconsistent, Crosthwaite struggling at Vics, Paine not enough experience.
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The OLD Ronchi is too inconsistent the new one isn't, Leading the FRC runs aggrate with an average of like 60
 
Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

I think the general consensus is Haddin to take over, at least in the short-term... quite simply, he's the best candidate by a long shot right now.

In general terms, I would like a return to the old philosophy that you select a 'keeper who is handy with the bat rather that a batsman who can wear the gloves. We've been spoilt rotten with Gilchrist, and I hope when he retires the selectors realise that having a substandard gloveman isn't worth maintaining that extra length in the batting order.

On the bright side, hopefully the loss of Gilchrist will provide some incentive to develop some decent Test all-rounders, and actually give them a look-in.
 
Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

Caesar;111466 said:
I think the general consensus is Haddin to take over, at least in the short-term... quite simply, he's the best candidate by a long shot right now.

In general terms, I would like a return to the old philosophy that you select a 'keeper who is handy with the bat rather that a batsman who can wear the gloves. We've been spoilt rotten with Gilchrist, and I hope when he retires the selectors realise that having a substandard gloveman isn't worth maintaining that extra length in the batting order.

On the bright side, hopefully the loss of Gilchrist will provide some incentive to develop some decent Test all-rounders, and actually give them a look-in.
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nothing to do with Flintoff i hope....
 
Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

rumblah;111482 said:
nothing to do with Flintoff i hope....
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Nope. The reality is that because we've been blessed with a wicketkeeper who is also a great batsman, we've had the luxury of including 4 specialist bowlers in the side as the pressure on them to contribute to the scoreboard is less.

Whoever replaces him with the gloves, one thing's for certain - they won't be averaging well over 45 runs an innings. The lower order will be exposed more frequently, and the bowling team will be required to contribute with the willow. That will probably mean reverting to 3 bowlers and an all-rounder.
 
Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

Even when Healy was the keeper, we generally only played four bowlers, but there was an expectation of our bowlers that they'd be able to contribute with the bat from time to time.

Think back to some of Paul Reifell's batting cameos to see what I mean.
 
Re: The future of Australia's wicket-keeping.

Crossy won't play for australia. He's not a good enough bat! He is the last on that list in terms of batting.

Haddin will be the next keeper and rightfully so.
 
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