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UNplayable;372280 said:SteveB;372264 said:The rules for dropping more than two grades should be wiped clean for the start of a season, they should only be in place to stop people for dropping back after xmas to get sides into finals. when sides are struggling for numbers at beginning of season because of sunday cricket etc then common sense should prevail and the rule shouldn't apply.
As for stopping a young bloke from our competition from going to premier cricket for a match to help improve his game and a side has shown some interest in trying him out, then it is a completely disgraceful. All other associations allow it except for the bca. it is not a cricket victoria rule, it is only a BCA rule.
Where does all the fine money go to??? I've played country week the past two seasons and have gotten ************ all for it. all players take a week off work and are given only $25 a day which is ************ all when u have to travel up and back each day and buy your breakfast and tea..leaving at like 6am and getting home after 10pm is stupidity. all other associations stay down in melbourne and get alot more gear(uniforms) then what ballarat players do. All we got was a playing top.
The BCA is almost becoming a joke of an association and would be fairly close to the worst ran association in the state I would presume.
You have choices..
Apply to have the rules you don't like changed it's that simple. If enough clubs do the same then things will change - don't just whinge do something about it! Contact all other clubs get some consensus and make it happen.
or do nothing and keep whingeing about how bad things are.
or walk away from the game and keep whingeing about how bad things are.
It's up to you.
Dean Waugh;372398 said:Question for you steve..
Let's say you still played for point, and over the winter you recruited 2 players to your club when the season gets closer and after putting in there clearances the 2 players say sorry steve but a few things have changed over the week and we cannot commit to playing cricket at a higher level. A few days later Golden Point recieve a $200 fine? Fair steve?
Dean Waugh;372411 said:True, it is a 2 way st.
Your comment about umpire reports, do you expect honest reports back? You unfortunately won't get honest feedback from captains as they get fined if they are too honest like it happened with knowlesy last year!
Your clearance issue is spot on, would solve the problem with a simple phone call.
Fair call with Naps & Point, Early games lost make it very hard to get into 4 especially when i can't see Geelong West & Target Heads losing many games.iamthehighway;372703 said:First week on turf for the year, tips
Ballarat/Redan v Mt. Clear at University of Ballarat
Darley v Wendouree at Darley Park
Golden Point v Napoleons/Sebastopol at Napoleons
East Ballarat v North Ballarat at St. Patrick’s College (1)
Coronet City v Brown Hill at Ballarat Grammar (2)
however losers out of point and naps recon that will be tough for them to reach the 4? thoughts?
Correct Steveo, he's a ripper. Grammar ground was very slow, on any other ground and it would have been a big double ton for Honda.SteveO;373328 said:Gee Matt Hyden must go a bit, Gibba. Found a good'un there.
Dean Waugh;372760 said:Fair call with Naps & Point, Early games lost make it very hard to get into 4 especially when i can't see Geelong West & Target Heads losing many games.
Ballarat/Redan v Mt. Clear - Close.
Darley v Wendouree - Jonno to rip thru and get 8.
Golden Point v Napoleons/Sebastopol - Bowlers too strong.
East Ballarat v North Ballarat - Hoppy to get another Ton.
Coronet City v Brown Hill - Honda to get his 1st of many century's!
Good to be back on the turf.
Dean Waugh;373574 said:Correct Steveo, he's a ripper. Grammar ground was very slow, on any other ground and it would have been a big double ton for Honda.
Soon, he's told us he's been at Forest St P.S nets 3-4 times a week working on his new mystery ball.... Plus he refuses to play anywhere but the ones so maybe after christmas we might see him!moe syzlak;373583 said:I think the question on everyone's lips is: When will Ash Barker get his chance?
SteveB;372330 said:UNplayable;372280 said:You have choices..
Apply to have the rules you don't like changed it's that simple. If enough clubs do the same then things will change - don't just whinge do something about it! Contact all other clubs get some consensus and make it happen.
or do nothing and keep whingeing about how bad things are.
or walk away from the game and keep whingeing about how bad things are.
It's up to you.
UNplayable;372280 said:SteveB;372264 said:The rules for dropping more than two grades should be wiped clean for the start of a season, they should only be in place to stop people for dropping back after xmas to get sides into finals. when sides are struggling for numbers at beginning of season because of sunday cricket etc then common sense should prevail and the rule shouldn't apply.
As for stopping a young bloke from our competition from going to premier cricket for a match to help improve his game and a side has shown some interest in trying him out, then it is a completely disgraceful. All other associations allow it except for the bca. it is not a cricket victoria rule, it is only a BCA rule.
Where does all the fine money go to??? I've played country week the past two seasons and have gotten ************ all for it. all players take a week off work and are given only $25 a day which is ************ all when u have to travel up and back each day and buy your breakfast and tea..leaving at like 6am and getting home after 10pm is stupidity. all other associations stay down in melbourne and get alot more gear(uniforms) then what ballarat players do. All we got was a playing top.
The BCA is almost becoming a joke of an association and would be fairly close to the worst ran association in the state I would presume.
It's all very well SteveB to say simply apply to have the rules changed!
Let me bring to your attention some issues ....
1. Some suggested rule changes seem to get "swept under the carpet" with this absurd strategy that the executive/administration have of "blanket voting" groups of rule changes with the obvious intention of conserving some rules that the administration dont want changed, rather than seriously considering input from clubs.
2. If you think the BCA is a highly credible and well run cricket association you you need to get out and about a bit. Major competitions in Melbourne and also other country associations are bemused to hear about (and experience) the rules, management and umpire/tribunal dictatorship that exists within the BCA.
3. The BCA has continued to show a lack of progress in a number of areas. (Lack of bonus points sees stumps drawn on many matches during the course of day 2.)
4. The fact that both competing clubs do not share afternoon tea, and rarely socialise after the game is immature and lacking in community spirit.
MelbourneFC09;373715 said:It's all very well SteveB to say simply apply to have the rules changed!Have you guys ever thought of approaching other clubs and getting them to support your applications? A submission from 10 or 15 clubs will hold more weight than a submission from one club, so if you are keen on making changes do it.
Let me bring to your attention some issues ....
1. Some suggested rule changes seem to get "swept under the carpet" with this absurd strategy that the executive/administration have of "blanket voting" groups of rule changes with the obvious intention of conserving some rules that the administration dont want changed, rather than seriously considering input from clubs.As above it's hard to ignore an application that has the support of a lot of clubs. - It's called lobbying try it...
2. If you think the BCA is a highly credible and well run cricket association you you need to get out and about a bit. Major competitions in Melbourne and also other country associations are bemused to hear about (and experience) the rules, management and umpire/tribunal dictatorship that exists within the BCA.Again I will say it goes both ways, when the clubs can do simple things like lodge team sheets, scores, umpire reports then maybe they can criticise the BCA's credibility.
3. The BCA has continued to show a lack of progress in a number of areas. (Lack of bonus points sees stumps drawn on many matches during the course of day 2.)Bonus points might seem like a good idea to you but I doubt you would get wide ranging support from other clubs. Most players don't want to play on once the game is won... what other areas are you referring to please explain
4. The fact that both competing clubs do not share afternoon tea, and rarely socialise after the game is immature and lacking in community spirit.How is this an administration issue???? Do something about it then, this has nothing to do with the BCA. It's a club issue take it up with other clubs.
I don't know what other clubs do when they play Darley, but for as long as they've been in the competition, whenever we play them (in the 1s anyway), the home side has always put on a banquet-style spread and both teams have hung around for a beer and a chat before heading back up/down the highway. I presume they do it with all sides ?MelbourneFC09;373715 said:4. The fact that both competing clubs do not share afternoon tea, and rarely socialise after the game is immature and lacking in community spirit.
RazzaTheRooster;373879 said:I don't know what other clubs do when they play Darley, but for as long as they've been in the competition, whenever we play them (in the 1s anyway), the home side has always put on a banquet-style spread and both teams have hung around for a beer and a chat before heading back up/down the highway. I presume they do it with all sides ?
The boys always like the trip to Darley; the ladies committee does a bang-up job and then there's the stubbie sprint on the way home !
SteveO;374721 said:Can anyone confirm this one for me?
I heard yesterday that the MCCC boys were out on the Uni Oval raking up grass from the tractor on Wednesday, it got cut again Thursday and they raked it up again on Friday!
Please please please say it's true, Nicho. That would definitely become my favourite wacky Paull story of all time!
Not sure if it would be kosher, but it might be time for all clubs to invest in industrial strength leaf blowers if it is now best practice!