Bowling Action
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Re: Bowling Action
Hey mate try and keep your head up more during the action.. with the best bowlers you find that the head remains pretty much on an even plain during the whole action.. that's why I showed you Glenn McGrath..
So keep the head still not leaned over like yours is.. keep that left arm UP and pointed where you want to bowl the ball.. the rest will all fall into line
But looks like a good repeatable action.. lots of potential there mate
Hey mate try and keep your head up more during the action.. with the best bowlers you find that the head remains pretty much on an even plain during the whole action.. that's why I showed you Glenn McGrath..
So keep the head still not leaned over like yours is.. keep that left arm UP and pointed where you want to bowl the ball.. the rest will all fall into line
But looks like a good repeatable action.. lots of potential there mate
storm
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thanks, when i get a chance ill be working on keeping my head still and making my action taller and pacier.
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Update: had first day of college today, to be honest it reminds me why i hate school so much, really just want to play cricket all the time but can't, got 4 hours sleep the night before cause i couldn't stop thinking about what i need to do to improve my game, got out of college at 2.00 decided to go to nets, it was pissing it down but still i couldn't resist,bike was punctured so i decided to run, longest run I've done without a break, 6 miles in all there and back, practised hard on my action but the floor was soaked so it was too dangerous to run up, kept my head still and made sure action was good, felt crap cause i cudnt get any pace at all, spent 30 mins throwing at the stumps with ladders etc, did some chin ups and push ups then ran home,tryed sprinting home and nearly threw up so i just went with the jog, backs still hurts as does my shoulder ,im gonna take a month or so off of cricket now that season is over ( gonna be really hard to resist not playin) and just work on lower back, core and all over body exercises, gonna buy some supplements soon and join a gym, watchin cricket masterclass on fast bowling to understand my action more, then after a month ill be playing cricket in any free time i have aswell as working out, hopefully ill get to the county standard by next year, i doubt it but its the only reason i got for doing all this work...arghhh i hate exercising.
not gona post the vid i took as its useless, the rain screws up the image and it doesn't really help,, also when i hold my deltoid and move my arm, to exercise my cuff and its clicky my muscels seem to move or something weird, it feels good but is this bad? ohh and the bad thing is that it gives a light grinding noise
thanks, when i get a chance ill be working on keeping my head still and making my action taller and pacier.
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Update: had first day of college today, to be honest it reminds me why i hate school so much, really just want to play cricket all the time but can't, got 4 hours sleep the night before cause i couldn't stop thinking about what i need to do to improve my game, got out of college at 2.00 decided to go to nets, it was pissing it down but still i couldn't resist,bike was punctured so i decided to run, longest run I've done without a break, 6 miles in all there and back, practised hard on my action but the floor was soaked so it was too dangerous to run up, kept my head still and made sure action was good, felt crap cause i cudnt get any pace at all, spent 30 mins throwing at the stumps with ladders etc, did some chin ups and push ups then ran home,tryed sprinting home and nearly threw up so i just went with the jog, backs still hurts as does my shoulder ,im gonna take a month or so off of cricket now that season is over ( gonna be really hard to resist not playin) and just work on lower back, core and all over body exercises, gonna buy some supplements soon and join a gym, watchin cricket masterclass on fast bowling to understand my action more, then after a month ill be playing cricket in any free time i have aswell as working out, hopefully ill get to the county standard by next year, i doubt it but its the only reason i got for doing all this work...arghhh i hate exercising.
not gona post the vid i took as its useless, the rain screws up the image and it doesn't really help,, also when i hold my deltoid and move my arm, to exercise my cuff and its clicky my muscels seem to move or something weird, it feels good but is this bad? ohh and the bad thing is that it gives a light grinding noise
Re: Bowling Action
eat well. don't buy suppliments... unless they are a) a GOOD multivitamin, b) fish oil, or c) whey protein for post work outs. but eating well will remove the need for any of them.
a break sounds like just what you need. i'm not sure what age you are, but it's good to cycle your workload.
eat well. don't buy suppliments... unless they are a) a GOOD multivitamin, b) fish oil, or c) whey protein for post work outs. but eating well will remove the need for any of them.
a break sounds like just what you need. i'm not sure what age you are, but it's good to cycle your workload.
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A very intesting video storm. Great back foot contact, love the hip drive and the follow through arms.
Just a few things:
You need to work on that non bowling arm more. You thrust it straight up during the jump. You must keep that hand within your vision. As you jump, flex your elbow to 90 degrees and push it to your right. The top of the arm (humerus) should be parallel to the ground and the forearm should be perpendicular to the ground. Practice this [the jump and arms] in front of a mirror so you can see what's happening. This is really, really important storm.
Keep your head straight. I can see from this video that your head leans to the left throughout your run up; you probably do not even know you are doing it. This is probably one of the major factors preventing you from getting your shoulder round. Again, check it in the mirror and make sure you are looking to the left of the forearm. Don't tilt the head to do so... move the arm.
Think even taller
You are doing tremendously well and I can see you are working hard but as you jump, make your body, from your right toes to your right hand as long as you can and as you land think 'keep it tall'. Try not to collapse at the left knee.
Please let us know how you get on.
A very intesting video storm. Great back foot contact, love the hip drive and the follow through arms.
Just a few things:
You need to work on that non bowling arm more. You thrust it straight up during the jump. You must keep that hand within your vision. As you jump, flex your elbow to 90 degrees and push it to your right. The top of the arm (humerus) should be parallel to the ground and the forearm should be perpendicular to the ground. Practice this [the jump and arms] in front of a mirror so you can see what's happening. This is really, really important storm.
Keep your head straight. I can see from this video that your head leans to the left throughout your run up; you probably do not even know you are doing it. This is probably one of the major factors preventing you from getting your shoulder round. Again, check it in the mirror and make sure you are looking to the left of the forearm. Don't tilt the head to do so... move the arm.
Think even taller
You are doing tremendously well and I can see you are working hard but as you jump, make your body, from your right toes to your right hand as long as you can and as you land think 'keep it tall'. Try not to collapse at the left knee.Please let us know how you get on.
Virendersingh.berthwal
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Re: Bowling Action
Storm,
Good Video especially on the slow motion part and practice hard.
Work on ur fitness.
While shooting ur bowling video pls make sure ur bowling is covered to the fullest as the light factor is important.
All the best:thumbup1:
Storm,
Good Video especially on the slow motion part and practice hard.
Work on ur fitness.
While shooting ur bowling video pls make sure ur bowling is covered to the fullest as the light factor is important.
All the best:thumbup1:
storm
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Went down the nets and tryed it out, i felt a bit sick dunno why, wasnt happy at all with the bowling i did so im not gonna bother posting vids, my left shoulder sint very strong as it hurt when i was pulling it across my body each time.
I tryed doing what you said but my bowling was so slow and **** i must have been doing it wrong, my back was a little niggly from it aswell, too tired really to bother posting the video. when my body feel a bit better ill get back up the nets and get that action down, really annoyed at the moment lol, its all so annoying just not being able to bowl as fast as you want...
i dont understand how the county players can be so good! arghh to bowl 85mph with ease is impossible...
Went down the nets and tryed it out, i felt a bit sick dunno why, wasnt happy at all with the bowling i did so im not gonna bother posting vids, my left shoulder sint very strong as it hurt when i was pulling it across my body each time.
I tryed doing what you said but my bowling was so slow and **** i must have been doing it wrong, my back was a little niggly from it aswell, too tired really to bother posting the video. when my body feel a bit better ill get back up the nets and get that action down, really annoyed at the moment lol, its all so annoying just not being able to bowl as fast as you want...
i dont understand how the county players can be so good! arghh to bowl 85mph with ease is impossible...
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Honestly storm, you are almost there; I know it sounds like a lot to change but really, we are only talking a few things... so much is great.
You really do have to forget about pace at the moment; get the biomechanics right and the pace will come later.
It does sound like you are trying too hard; I know you want this very much but it is not going to come any quicker, possibly slower, if you carry on fatigued. You may not feel tired but if your body has had enough, it's had enough, rest it.
Don't forget, you must have at least one day a week of total rest, no cricket and certainly no training.
Honestly storm, you are almost there; I know it sounds like a lot to change but really, we are only talking a few things... so much is great.
You really do have to forget about pace at the moment; get the biomechanics right and the pace will come later.
It does sound like you are trying too hard; I know you want this very much but it is not going to come any quicker, possibly slower, if you carry on fatigued. You may not feel tired but if your body has had enough, it's had enough, rest it.
Don't forget, you must have at least one day a week of total rest, no cricket and certainly no training.
storm
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i hate rest... just thinking about rest makes you wanna play, ill have a 2 day break from the nets, ill start working my rotar cuffs more as ive been slacking with them.
Ill start again on my core, i went threw a really intense week of core exercises about 2 weeks ago or so and for some reason stopped, ill try get that core really strong so that back pain wont ever be a problem again.
Ohh and i was thinking about weighted push ups, what i was thinking is that if i put some weights in a bag then put the bag on my back and did push ups would this help me in anyway, cause i hate doing so many and not feeling anything i already do the leg raise when doing them and they are still pretty easy.
Anyway thx Liz so much, i would have broken my back without your help and advice, also my mums gonna buy me some of that whey stuff soon so that should help me.
Cant wait to get this action fixed
i hate rest... just thinking about rest makes you wanna play, ill have a 2 day break from the nets, ill start working my rotar cuffs more as ive been slacking with them.Ill start again on my core, i went threw a really intense week of core exercises about 2 weeks ago or so and for some reason stopped, ill try get that core really strong so that back pain wont ever be a problem again.
Ohh and i was thinking about weighted push ups, what i was thinking is that if i put some weights in a bag then put the bag on my back and did push ups would this help me in anyway, cause i hate doing so many and not feeling anything i already do the leg raise when doing them and they are still pretty easy.
Anyway thx Liz so much, i would have broken my back without your help and advice, also my mums gonna buy me some of that whey stuff soon so that should help me.
Cant wait to get this action fixed
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I'm not surprised storm, you are really strong in this area. Your technique is great too so you could go with that, as long as the bag was strapped securely to you... or you could ask your sister to sit on your upper back
Personally, I would prefer to see you work on posterior press ups or plyometric press ups (refer to the mental frenchmen
). You could try pressing in the handstand position or raise both legs on a table/bed/chair, as long as it was secure. Press ups on a stability ball are great too, alternate between feet and hands being on the ball. You could grab hold of too footballs and press, one under each hand.
If you go with the posterior press up, you could progress by raising both legs, in an elevated plank position.
Give them a go.
storm;30010 said:
I'm not surprised storm, you are really strong in this area. Your technique is great too so you could go with that, as long as the bag was strapped securely to you... or you could ask your sister to sit on your upper back
Personally, I would prefer to see you work on posterior press ups or plyometric press ups (refer to the mental frenchmen
). You could try pressing in the handstand position or raise both legs on a table/bed/chair, as long as it was secure. Press ups on a stability ball are great too, alternate between feet and hands being on the ball. You could grab hold of too footballs and press, one under each hand.If you go with the posterior press up, you could progress by raising both legs, in an elevated plank position.
Give them a go.
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I have to be really careful how I answer this question.
Dive Bomber Push Ups and Hindu ("Dand") Push Ups are great. They work the whole body and are really effective for strength endurance. The fact that they use compound movement means that all the major muscle groups, including the legs, back, chest, shoulders, arms, hips and abdominals are activated.
However...
...I have rarely seen these performed correctly without expert assistance. The most common mistake is feet far too wide apart; they should be hip width. Any wider and the exercise is not doing what it is supposed to. Quite often, performers put their knees and/or elbows on the ground and/or they flex their elbows at the wrong phase of the exercise. This is usually because they get the two exercises confused.
Also, I do cringe at any exercie that involves spine hyperextension. You really do need to have a very strong spine to do this exercise properly. During hyperextension the spinal processes can 'crunch' together, which is not good if you have any stress on the spine or any density issues. Though you can perform this exercise without fully hyperextending.
Breathing is vitally important to do this exercise correctly; you must use your breath. If you can get this right, it can also strengthen and tone the internal organs including the heart. It can increase lung capacity and with most eastern movements can improve digestion.
I have to be really careful how I answer this question.
Dive Bomber Push Ups and Hindu ("Dand") Push Ups are great. They work the whole body and are really effective for strength endurance. The fact that they use compound movement means that all the major muscle groups, including the legs, back, chest, shoulders, arms, hips and abdominals are activated.
However...
...I have rarely seen these performed correctly without expert assistance. The most common mistake is feet far too wide apart; they should be hip width. Any wider and the exercise is not doing what it is supposed to. Quite often, performers put their knees and/or elbows on the ground and/or they flex their elbows at the wrong phase of the exercise. This is usually because they get the two exercises confused.
Also, I do cringe at any exercie that involves spine hyperextension. You really do need to have a very strong spine to do this exercise properly. During hyperextension the spinal processes can 'crunch' together, which is not good if you have any stress on the spine or any density issues. Though you can perform this exercise without fully hyperextending.
Breathing is vitally important to do this exercise correctly; you must use your breath. If you can get this right, it can also strengthen and tone the internal organs including the heart. It can increase lung capacity and with most eastern movements can improve digestion.
storm
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yh ill give them a rest, and holy **** the handstand press ups are hard, i can do about 4 and then my balance just goes compltley, just gonna start all those exercises you mentioned and work my core mainly so it feels strong.
ohh and my rotar cuffs still funyy..
yh ill give them a rest, and holy **** the handstand press ups are hard, i can do about 4 and then my balance just goes compltley, just gonna start all those exercises you mentioned and work my core mainly so it feels strong.
ohh and my rotar cuffs still funyy..
storm
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well my rotar cuff still feels weak, when i move it it sometimes click, its stronger than its still weird, ill try explain better later, anyway made a new vid after my long rest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdbBfHjl8bI
My backs still not strong, ill be sure to strengthenen it, im not sure what to say about my bowling atm, its not quick, but its dosent hurt.
ohh yeah u tube vids dont play on the site.....booooo
well my rotar cuff still feels weak, when i move it it sometimes click, its stronger than its still weird, ill try explain better later, anyway made a new vid after my long rest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdbBfHjl8bI
My backs still not strong, ill be sure to strengthenen it, im not sure what to say about my bowling atm, its not quick, but its dosent hurt.
ohh yeah u tube vids dont play on the site.....booooo
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The shoulder rotation is 100% better storm, well done. That's the back sorted, now try to keep your head straight
Keep up with the rotator cuff exercises and the side plank for the back.
It might be worth going to the GP and getting referred for a scan, just to eliminate a rotator cuff tear. Now that the season has finished, the sooner the better.
Let me know what you decide to do.
The shoulder rotation is 100% better storm, well done. That's the back sorted, now try to keep your head straight
Keep up with the rotator cuff exercises and the side plank for the back.
It might be worth going to the GP and getting referred for a scan, just to eliminate a rotator cuff tear. Now that the season has finished, the sooner the better.
Let me know what you decide to do.
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I like the dive bomber push ups... but as a challenge more than a staple strengthening exercise. I guess a week or two of them to randomise your training a little would be good (if you're doing them properly), but weighted push ups and press ups are definitely a better exercise to base your training around - bag on the back with weights is a good idea (like liz said, just make sure that it's secured tight as night.)- if you can, get a hold of some resistance bands; a lot safer, and you can really train exploding out of the bottom of the movement. You can also use the bands as an assist in dips and pull/chin ups.
Liz Ward;265390 said:
I like the dive bomber push ups... but as a challenge more than a staple strengthening exercise. I guess a week or two of them to randomise your training a little would be good (if you're doing them properly), but weighted push ups and press ups are definitely a better exercise to base your training around - bag on the back with weights is a good idea (like liz said, just make sure that it's secured tight as night.)- if you can, get a hold of some resistance bands; a lot safer, and you can really train exploding out of the bottom of the movement. You can also use the bands as an assist in dips and pull/chin ups.