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Hi,

What do you think causes carry in fast bowlers. It evidently does not bare a direct correlation to pace as Glenn Mcgrath could get the ball to hit the gloves at chest height whereas Luke Wright is barely getting it to go through to the keeper, although timing about the same on the speed gun. Likewise, Irfan Pathan's shorter balls are played as if they are 120kph even though they are often 130-135kph whereas Brett Lee's looseners which are about 130kph these days still carry through to the keeper.
 
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height? Mcgrath is 6ft6in and luke wright is just 6ft. I assume that extra height bangs it into the pitch better meaning it bounces up higher to the keeper.
 
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Height is a contributing factor, but I believe that there is more to it than that. Malcolm Marshall was just 5ft 10 (if I recall correctly) and he had the keeper miles back.
 
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You look at Wright and see him both skid and band it into the pitch, the ones which skid, wont make it. You only need to look as far as Jimmy Anderson today to see that he found it difficult to get it through because of the nature of his action. Tremlett and Broad found it far too easy to get the ball to come up off the pitch, and the new fad of cross seam grip is giving them extra ammunition!

Its facinating but also wierd, but generally speed and "bang," into the pitch are the contributing factors.
 
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The pitch, height of the player, arm speed, grip, wrist flick, general length that they bowl, pace through the air, and how hard they hit the pitch all play a part.

Some players bowl a 'heavy' ball others don't.
 
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Hits the bat seemingly 'too hard' for the pace the ball is delivered at. Usually applicable to strong, sharp medium pace bowlers.
 
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The type of ball used will also play a part, as well as atmospheric conditions.

A heavy ball is one that, as manee says, hits the bat hard. Some players are renowned for doing this, I think Flintoff is one of them.
 
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bowling speed is a complex matter.

actually ,the speed on the speedgun is the horizontal speed component(forward speed component).
its not the resultant of vertical and horizontal speed.
thats the reason that few bowlers get more bounce,even ,when their speed gun recording is the same(horizontal speed ).
the difference is in the vertical speed or the bang factor
 
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mas cambios said:
A heavy ball is one that, as manee says, hits the bat hard. Some players are renowned for doing this, I think Flintoff is one of them.
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Yes, whereas a Sreesanth will occasionally clock as high as Flintoff but bowls a 'light ball' regardless.
 
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now more height results in more potential energy,hence more bounce.

check for instance,ishant sharma,he delievered a 110 kph ball that sailed to the keeper standing 18 yards behind the wicket.
in comparison when ganguly bowls the same,it barely reaches 10 yards.

again horizontal speed is same but difference in the vertical speeds.
 
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Surely it would be very very hard to isolate vertical and horizontal velocity when measuring speed?? I'm just saying this off the back off GCSE Physics so feel free to correct me, it just seems to me that you wouldn't be able to programme a speed gun to do that.
 
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Jelly Beanz said:
Surely it would be very very hard to isolate vertical and horizontal velocity when measuring speed?? I'm just saying this off the back off GCSE Physics so feel free to correct me, it just seems to me that you wouldn't be able to programme a speed gun to do that.
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i not too sure how that is carried out,but i read about this in article on the net
 
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hmm, I'm still dubious. I would've thought they would measure the resultant vector as this is it's true pace, not just one half of the equation.
 
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