Ferguson: The Next Aussie Saviour?

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Ferguson: The Next Aussie Saviour?

In a period of time where we have lost several of our greats, we've been longing for someone to step up. We've tried Watson, Marsh and Warner with mixed success and I reckon that Redback Ferguson is the answer to our problems.

Now I'm an one-eyed supporter of the Redbacks, but I backed Marsh this way as well before CA decided that he was a liability.

'Fergie' will make his test debut by the end of 2010 :)
 
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Its Simple.

By careers end, Ferguson > Ponting

Although, having said that, thats probably ALREADY true... so:

By careers end, Ferguson > Ponting x 2

Again, still debatable... but we'll stick with it ;)
 
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LOL at this thread.

Ferguson is not the answer to our woes at test level, he averages 35 at FC cricket on the biggest road in Australia.

Hardly inspiring stuff.

Just proves most people know very little about cricket.
 
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LIONS then DAYLIGHT;364925 said:
LOL at this thread.

Ferguson is not the answer to our woes at test level, he averages 35 at FC cricket on the biggest road in Australia.

Hardly inspiring stuff.

Just proves most people know very little about cricket.
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and how much do you average in first class cricket mate ?

as it were, Ferguson was a very slow starter and although he had an indifferent first year, poor form after this dragged his average down significantly. He has now fought back and across the 07-08 season and 08-09 season has established himself as a prime up and comer for Australia in years to come.
 
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Looks like a good bat, and should be debuted soon. Bit early to say he's a "saviour".
 
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a for effort;365034 said:
He's like Jesus except instead of a beard he has a sweet goatee
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No- Jesus was pretty average with the willow- that's why he went into coaching and motivational speaking with his team, The Nazarene Disciples. if anything he is like Judas- pretty dodgy in his early career but had a good run in the middle years- only remains to be seen if he ends up like Judas.
 
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Scrads;364887 said:
Its Simple.

By careers end, Ferguson > Ponting

Although, having said that, thats probably ALREADY true... so:

By careers end, Ferguson > Ponting x 2

Again, still debatable... but we'll stick with it ;)
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hey mate 5th one day game
ferguson 17 of 18
ponting 126 of 109

ferguson can make 300 hundreds in a row and will still never be compared to ponting
 
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an FC average cant be used to show a players ability unless they have played a few billion like m.hussey and hodge and let and average be just that, an average of a wide range of scores.

ferguson was a late start and had a pretty uninspiring start. but that has changed.

but not the saviour you are saying IMO. good bat but nothing more. i think he will average 60 for a little while and then go back to about a 47 average.

think of mike hussey but less successful.
 
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Slip;365234 said:
hey mate 5th one day game
ferguson 17 of 18
ponting 126 of 109

ferguson can make 300 hundreds in a row and will still never be compared to ponting
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so he beat him in one match did he ?

cool :eek:
 
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I can imagine you guys getting your wish only to see him fail. Then you guys will be eating humble pie.
Callum isn't ready as yet to play for Australia. He's going ok at State level but he's not going great guns at state level. What he should do is go and play county cricket where he can go up against some of the better bowlers and see how he goes there.
 
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No, English county cricket is of an inferior standard to Australian domestic cricket. I've heard (from people that have played at both levels), that division 2 of the County Championship is roughly equal in standard to Victorian premier cricket. Division 1 is obviously better, but typically is not comparable to Australian domestic cricket (espically when players are on national duty).

Success at state level is by far the best indicator of whether someone is ready for international cricket, not how many hundreds he scores against 'generic 35 year old plodder from Glamorgan'
 
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a for effort;366857 said:
No, English county cricket is of an inferior standard to Australian domestic cricket. I've heard (from people that have played at both levels), that division 2 of the County Championship is roughly equal in standard to Victorian premier cricket. Division 1 is obviously better, but typically is not comparable to Australian domestic cricket (espically when players are on national duty).

Success at state level is by far the best indicator of whether someone is ready for international cricket, not how many hundreds he scores against 'generic 35 year old plodder from Glamorgan'
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No it's not.....
Glenn McGrath used county cricket as his backdrop to get into the Australian team. Why do you think he was awesome at his bowling? You can only get that overseas from County Cricket. You can't get that from playing in State Cricket.
A good example for you going by state cricket. Bryce McGain only played for a Premier league team and then for Victoria and then made it on the Australian team only to fail big time.

IF he had of gone over to play county cricket he would have been a better bowler by now. Instead he's an old fart (38) and playing for Australia..... :rolleyes:

Cameron White could become a better bowler if he spent time over in England playing county cricket.
 
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schwab2clarkson;366859 said:
No it's not.....
Glenn McGrath used county cricket as his backdrop to get into the Australian team. Why do you think he was awesome at his bowling? You can only get that overseas from County Cricket. You can't get that from playing in State Cricket.
A good example for you going by state cricket. Bryce McGain only played for a Premier league team and then for Victoria and then made it on the Australian team only to fail big time.

IF he had of gone over to play county cricket he would have been a better bowler by now. Instead he's an old fart (38) and playing for Australia..... :rolleyes:

Cameron White could become a better bowler if he spent time over in England playing county cricket.
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I see you chose not to use your lengthy ban to learn how to construct an argument.

McGrath's bowling was good because he was a good bowler, not because he somehow gained magic powers whilst bowling on greentops against club-level cricketers every winter. The same argument applies for every other cricketer in the history of time, because even though Harry Potter was set in England, there are no 'magical county cricket superstar-making powers'.

I am unable to fathom the profound confusion of ideas you must have to believe that not only does playing a game of county cricket turn you into some kind of cricketing genius, but it also actually makes you physically younger. Do not argue this point, because that is what you said.

Cameron White plays cricket 12 months a year. He has proven himself to not be an adequate international bowler, and no amount of magic baby Harry Potter **************** will change that.
 
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they are both at the same standard, its just who and where you wish to play.

as a bowler you are more likely to be picked for the australian team if you do well in australia as it is a harder place to bowl in general.

as a batsman it is the opposite as it is generally accepted that english conditions are harder to bat in.

but this has no meaning to selectors until they are comparing two players closely in a stand-off.

and since australia plays a large quantity of games at home then it is no use being good in england, but nowhere else.

also australia has better players. that is why australia is ahead of england in the rankings. a bit of common sense there.

either way the player has to do well in australia otherwise its just going to be embarressing to the team to have someone that cant play at home.

australia is the best place to play cricket in the world so why would you not play here?
 
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Boris;366871 said:
they are both at the same standard, its just who and where you wish to play.
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No they are not. There are 20 first-class teams in England, as opposed to 6 in Australia, so the talent is diluted, and you end up with a bunch of teams with a few quality cricketers (Quite often internationals or Kolpaks) and a few nuffies who get a game because there isn't 220 cricketers in the country who are good enough for first class cricket. Nearly every single English commentator/former player will agree with this.
 
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