Geelong Cricket '08/'09(gca/bpca)

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thommy_rissole;276968 said:
Harps did you ever get on a speed gun at Geelong or elsewhere?

I know Ando and Miller have both been on the gun before, i think from memory they were both around the 135km/ph mark, but that was a few years ago.

So i'm wondering what speed these blokes bowl at nowadays?
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Nah... never been tested. Would not want to now... it would just be depressing!

Would have been interesting to be tested, but you would want it to have been that day when the pitch was quick, and the rhythm was great. Have not had one of those days for a loooong time.

Its funny when you used to watch guys like the Waughs, Blewett, and other part timers, bowling little mediums around the 130 to 135 mark.
 
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Yeah it's ok, but it brings things like the weather into it! especially with 7 days between innnings.
 
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thommy_rissole;276968 said:
Harps did you ever get on a speed gun at Geelong or elsewhere?

I know Ando and Miller have both been on the gun before, i think from memory they were both around the 135km/ph mark, but that was a few years ago.

So i'm wondering what speed these blokes bowl at nowadays?
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i think ando is around 135 kg's thats about it.
 
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pencil in 11;277073 said:
i think ando is around 135 kg's thats about it.
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hehe, the other night he was letting them slip through pretty quick after Hornet decided to bat a few guys for an extended period of time ! Unlucky for the guys which were batting at the time though :) When he delivers one of his quicker balls he does generate some great pace and bounce. Let's hope for us he is nice and fresh to take on Newtown tomorrow. And see David Boyd is back in the 1st XI for the Swans, hopefully he will run into some form again like last season.
 
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i think you'll find ... and guys, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong ... most people in the gca (and maybe the bpca) would rather all 1 dayers, and get rid of the 2 day game.
thoughts?
 
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pencil in 11;277073 said:
i think ando is around 135 kg's thats about it.
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i wish i could bowl 2 u pin11, i would have em round ur ears. (wouldnt be hard), hornet fired me up last nite, it as good to charge in at training. definatly feeling good, cant wait 4 the weekend:)
 
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Ha yeah!! but on the other hand when it's 35 degrees and stinking hot, if you win the toss you know you don't have to be running around in it. Anyways mate I better go and do some work, no doubt we'll talk again when you bar me for putting another drug picture up or for swearing!!!!!!:D

Thanks for the chat!!
 
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right arm medium;277025 said:
Nah... never been tested. Would not want to now... it would just be depressing!

Would have been interesting to be tested, but you would want it to have been that day when the pitch was quick, and the rhythm was great. Have not had one of those days for a loooong time.

Its funny when you used to watch guys like the Waughs, Blewett, and other part timers, bowling little mediums around the 130 to 135 mark.
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as if you werent bowling quicker than youve ever bowled before on saturday when i was in harps. haha
 
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Badger;277665 said:
i think you'll find ... and guys, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong ... most people in the gca (and maybe the bpca) would rather all 1 dayers, and get rid of the 2 day game.
thoughts?
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Definately BPCA should be all One dayers!!! ask anyone who plays in that league.
 
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thevetran;277638 said:
Mate, If we had lost we would of said well played you were better than us today! We always thought it was going to be tough to win with the amount of runs we made and how hard we fought to get to our measly total of 160. To get a win with that score on a quick, small ground was a great effort by the boys.

and by the way it is A grade cricket, yeah it's BPCA but it's still A grade, and there are teams who sledge and carry on a lot worse then us, but you know what it's only as bad as you let it be!!!

That is what makes cricket such a good game, that what happens on the field stays on the field, and you can enjoy a beer and a laugh once it's all done, but when a club refuses to stay and have a beer thats pretty poor, when newcomb were up and going a year or two ago they were THE worst at the verbal stuff......But I will take your advice on board and I might take some flowers and give them to the Ocean grove opening batsman next week,......right before he gets his middle peg knocked out of the ground, and gets the biggest send off in history, coz they gave it to us in the semi last year!!! Big time!!!! But we still had a beer and a laugh with them after the game.
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vetran vetran vetran, settle down mate. Keep the hostility for the grubbers, they are smartarses when they goin well. but you st albans boys probably take the cake when it comes to sledging while winning or losing. But at least ya cool about it off the ground which is it how it should be. and dont let that floppy mess gills call for a runner either, ya dont get a runner for being obese, aged and grumpy.
 
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Badger;277665 said:
i think you'll find ... and guys, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong ... most people in the gca (and maybe the bpca) would rather all 1 dayers, and get rid of the 2 day game.
thoughts?
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I must admit i enjoy the one dayers a little more than 2 dayers.
 
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crktluva;277668 said:
vetran vetran vetran, settle down mate. Keep the hostility for the grubbers, they are smartarses when they goin well. but you st albans boys probably take the cake when it comes to sledging while winning or losing. But at least ya cool about it off the ground which is it how it should be. and dont let that f**king mess gills call for a runner either, ya dont get a runner for being a fat old prick.
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:D I thought he was gonna retire!!!! looks like he's eaten Long and Lukey Hardiman over winter!!! SO who do you play for mate???? BPCA?
 
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Renny24;276964 said:
Debeer. Turned 21 during footy season. It is u/21 before 1st Sept. Debeer therefore misses out. Pityh, he would have been a good addition. He is a late bloomer and will turn out to be a good 1sts bat for many years to come. Very smooth.
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A very bias opinion there Renny. He's terrible
 
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Dinosaur_Maroon&Blue;277669 said:
I must admin i enjoy the one dayers a little more than 2 dayers.
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it's always dissapointing.. say for example us at the moment, or south barwon.. to have 350 + on the board, then the next week it pisses down rain and you get a draw.
 
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The SwingKing;277148 said:
A very bias opinion there Renny. He's terrible
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yeah I thought young Andrew Ross from South might have got a look in here at least in the initial squad. If he was playing in a few other clubs he might already have a few games in the 1st XI. Left armed and fairly sharp I do believe he will be in this squad in the next few years or so. Only played the two one day games this season in the 2nd XI as he was unavailable last round. Will be very keen to see how he goes this week in the 2nd XI against Newtown. Would be hoping for a bag to back me up !! hehe, he is possibly a little inconsistent and down the leg at the moment.
 
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Badger;277665 said:
i think you'll find ... and guys, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong ... most people in the gca (and maybe the bpca) would rather all 1 dayers, and get rid of the 2 day game.
thoughts?
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It would be the novelty factor for me, well, in the first instance. After that, who knows, it might get old, it might stay interesting.

There have been murmurings about adopting the 2 day system over the years but nothing has ever come of it, and it's doubtful that it will.
 
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mas cambios;277674 said:
It would be the novelty factor for me, well, in the first instance. After that, who knows, it might get old, it might stay interesting.

There have been murmurings about adopting the 2 day system over the years but nothing has ever come of it, and it's doubtful that it will.
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the 2 day games are ok, when played saturday sunday. but when playing saturday saturday, i'd rather just play all one dayers.
 
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gca_ipl;277153 said:
yeah I thought young Andrew Ross from South might have got a look in here at least in the initial squad. If he was playing in a few other clubs he might already have a few games in the 1st XI. Left armed and fairly sharp I do believe he will be in this squad in the next few years or so. Only played the two one day games this season in the 2nd XI as he was unavailable last round. Will be very keen to see how he goes this week in the 2nd XI against Newtown. Would be hoping for a bag to back me up !! hehe, he is possibly a little inconsistent and down the leg at the moment.
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Is he still eligible for the U18 Coca-Cola Cup? That might be a reason why he wasn't in the squad.
The majority of the team will be made up of 20+ year olds, with maybe one obvious exemption. Usually they don't like U18s playing in the U21 competition for some reason.
I personally think Debeer will be a good player for St Peter's, his only had a handful of first XI games and people are quick to jump on a young player's back when they don't make an immediate impact.
Sure there have been some freakish juniors around the region (Anderton, Harrison, Finch, Davies, Dean's, Nguyen, Condy) but usually it takes some time for young players to make their mark amongst the men.
 
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mas cambios;277651 said:
You could be right :mad::)

Your club cricket is played at a higher intensity than a lot of club cricket over here, no question about it. Standards? Top levels are similar (ish) but the depth of player numbers certainly is lower over here. You probably have 2 or 3 times the numbers.

Then again, you guys play a (to me anyway) a funny system. It's a mix of one day, 20/20 and 2 day games that count towards the final standings? (Am I correct?).
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Top levels aren't that similar, VCA 1st XI is a huge step ahead of any top leagues i saw around counties. Also our State XI's are also higher in standard than your county league. This is mainly due to the English County system having 18 teams and 2 overseas players per 1st XI then on top of that Kolpak players. I think it was in last season's 20/20 finals day, one team had only 2 english-born players in the 11.

As for a "funny system" the league i played in England had a pretty weird points system and this is how it worked.

One-day 100 over match.
Team batting first has option of batting 55 overs.
Bonus points for batting at the 45 over mark: -
100 runs - 1 points
120 runs - 2 points
140 runs - 3 points
160 runs - 4 points
180 runs - 5 points
But if you batted past 50 overs your bonus batting points were lost (eg: 167/2 after 45 overs, bat to 50 overs - 4 points, bat to 55 overs - 0 points).
The team batting first had their batting points doubled (eg: 167/2 after 45 overs - 4 points (x2) = 8 points)
For every odd-wicket you get a point.
1 wicket - 1 point
3 wickets - 2 points
5 wickets - 3 points
7 wickets - 4 points
9 wickets - 5 points
But this is where it gets complicated, the team batting second must be bowled out completely (eg:10 wickets) for the team batting first to get win points. If the team batting 2nd doesn't get bowled out it's declared a drawn match (eg: both teams get a further 2 points, on top of their batting/bowling points)

For example: St Josephs vs Lara Round 2 http://mycricket.cricket.com.au/com...loc=/cricket/reports/match.asp&matchID=494001

Geelong West batted first were over 180 at the 45 over mark (10 points)
Lara got 9 wickets (5 points)

Lara batted second and were over 180 at the 45 over mark (5 points)
Geelong West got 6 wickets (3 points)

Lara chased down Geelong West's score therefore get 20 points for the win, plus they get their batting points (5). Total points: Lara 25, West 13

A hypothetical if Lara finished at 6-220 off their 50 overs.

The batting and bowling points would be the same but because Lara couldn't chase down West's total and West couldn't bowl Lara out the match is declared a draw, 2 points each.
Therefore the points would read: Lara (12), West (13)

When you played against a weaker team often they would just shut-up shop from over 1 and bat for the draw, making for the boringest 50 overs and 3 hours of your life.

I think the best format would be if we played English style (100 one-day match) with Australian points (6 win, 3 tie, loss).
 
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Buddy23#;276681 said:
↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑D Middleton has to be.:D even if it's not just pretend it is,please:D
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lol its not middo i have spoken to him about this site and he doesnt know how to post msges. im pretty sure gcc101 is not a guild st marys player
 
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Nothing To Loose;277427 said:
Division 1 "Powerhouse" South Barwon are extremly cockey in not only winning the 20/20 competition, but also beating Division 3 "Rabble" Guild-St.Mary's.

Quotes from the South Barwon Coach
1) "I will retire if we loose to them"
2) "Hester bowls wrongen's, Blyth will pretend he is Matt Hayden, and Ando will raise his bat grip when he is going to hit sixes"

However after thinking about the comments and the "slim" chance the Powerhouse has of loosing he followed with this

3) "20/20 is a game of chance. All cricketers should be respected, except Justin Larkins"

A little change of tune, prehaps running scared

Drunk, hung over or stooned, Guilders have...

NOTHING TO LOOSE
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Is it 'Nothing to Lose' or 'Nothing Too Loose'?
 
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thevetran;276790 said:
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GCC101 posting his latest message!!!!!!Go guild:eek:
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he is way to fit to be part of guild lol
 
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thommy_rissole;277677 said:
Top levels aren't that similar, VCA 1st XI is a huge step ahead of any top leagues i saw around counties. Also our State XI's are also higher in standard than your county league. This is mainly due to the English County system having 18 teams and 2 overseas players per 1st XI then on top of that Kolpak players. I think it was in last season's 20/20 finals day, one team had only 2 english-born players in the 11.

As for a "funny system" the league i played in this is how their points system worked.

One-day 100 over match.
Team batting first has option of batting 55 overs.
Bonus points for batting at the 45 over mark: -
100 runs - 1 points
120 runs - 2 points
140 runs - 3 points
160 runs - 4 points
180 runs - 5 points
But if you batted past 50 overs your bonus batting points were lost (eg: 167/2 after 45 overs, bat to 50 overs - 4 points, bat to 55 overs - 0 points).
The team batting first had their batting points doubled (eg: 167/2 after 45 overs - 4 points (x2) = 8 points)
For every odd-wicket you get a point.
1 wicket - 1 point
3 wickets - 2 points
5 wickets - 3 points
7 wickets - 4 points
9 wickets - 5 points
But this is where it gets complicated, the team batting second must be bowled out completely (eg:10 wickets) for the team batting first to get win points. If the team batting 2nd doesn't get bowled out it's declared a drawn match (eg: both teams get a further 2 points, on top of their batting/bowling points)

For example: St Josephs vs Lara Round 2 http://mycricket.cricket.com.au/com...loc=/cricket/reports/match.asp&matchID=494001

Geelong West batted first were over 180 at the 45 over mark (10 points)
Lara got 9 wickets (5 points)

Lara batted second and were over 180 at the 45 over mark (5 points)
Geelong West got 6 wickets (3 points)

Lara chased down Geelong West's score therefore get 20 points for the win, plus they get their batting points (5). Total points: Lara 25, West 13

A hypothetical if Lara finished at 6-220 off their 50 overs.

The batting and bowling points would be the same but because Lara couldn't chase down West's total and West couldn't bowl Lara out the match is declared a draw, 2 points each.
Therefore the points would read: Lara (12), West (13)

When you played against a weaker team often they would just shut-up shop from over 1 and bat for the draw, making for the boringest 50 overs and 3 hours of your life.

I think the best format would be if we played English style (100 one-day match) with Australian points (6 win, 3 tie, loss).
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Far out mate!!! It's Monday morning your brain's working to hard!!!!:D
 
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2-dayers are ok until you get a team out in 70 overs, and are rewarded by going out to bat for ten overs, scoring a globe and spending all next week watching your mates score 100's.

Also, there are a few clubs around who you can pretty much guarantee will underprepare their pitch if they are bowling on the second week
 
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Badger;277665 said:
i think you'll find ... and guys, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong ... most people in the gca (and maybe the bpca) would rather all 1 dayers, and get rid of the 2 day game.
thoughts?
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Yes One-day cricket is the way forward. Good example with South posting 392, rains all day next saturday and both teams get a draw, not good enough.

Also need to eliminate outright points, not fair on the whole competition. Say Thomson are really struggling this season and St Peters play us in a one-dayer, bowl us out for 35 and pass us in the 8th over. Next week we play a 2dayer, Manifold bowl us out for 60, pass us 1 down inside 15 overs and put us back in an beat us outright, that's not fair on St Peters who would've also beaten us outright if they had of played us in a 2 day game.

Another example is saturday we fielded for 85 overs, i didn't take a catch and didn't get a bowl, why would i want to do that every second saturday? Not the greatest encouragement to keep everyone interested in playing locally. At least with a one-day game, first 15 overs are exciting, fields up batsmen are having a go, last 10 overs is the same, so only got 25 overs to keep yourself entertained and really "get through". Also you get a bat everyweek and it eliminates outrights.

Play every team home and away (fair draw) only need 22 saturdays regular season - no finals, winner is on top after round 22, shorter season - longer christmas break and player unavailability will 1/2 as alot of players miss a full match (2 days) because they are only unable to play 1 day.
 
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thevetran;277680 said:
Far out mate!!! It's Monday morning your brain's working to hard!!!!:D
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Try saturday afternoon when your trying to captain your side with all that running through your head, also forgot to add that it usually always rains in England so that comes into play. It was a nightmare at times.
 
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ok, world first. Live updates from South Barwon v Netown 1st at Reynolds Reserve. Swans sent into bat on a hard but green-ish looking deck. Both openers got off to a good start with Whittingham just falling to Scott "Heart" Mullen. South currently are 1-45 off 11. Blyth and Anthony "no hamstring injury" Ford are batting. Dev Royce has just started to bowl into the 12th over. More importantly Benny, yes, Benny the Jet is playing next door at Marshall. We have already heard one Woo Hoo from the Jet himself !! Further updates to follow.
 
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thommy_rissole;277688 said:
Try saturday afternoon when your trying to captain your side with all that running through your head, also forgot to add that it usually always rains in England so that comes into play. It was a nightmare at times.
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HA Try doing that talking to the Ernie Burger at about 2am Sunday morning!!!!
 
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South Barwon 3-142 off 35. Fordy just out for 28. Hornet batting well but could have been run out just after Fordy went out after a mix up with Hester. Hester has had a few close chances but in between is hitting some good boundaries. Deck is doing a bit with Dev Royce being pretty hard to get away with the ball moving around quiet a bit.
 
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thevetran;277691 said:
HA Try doing that talking to the Ernie Burger at about 2am Sunday morning!!!!
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He wouldn't understand it at 2pm on a wednesday either, struggles with life.

I thought he quit St Albans CC?

Last season he was over watching us play Corio in the Quarter-Final whilst you guys were playing down the road, he told everyone at Thomson he quit, obviously been welcomed back with open arms?
 
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