How long is an acceptable tail in international cricket?

Caesar

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How long is an acceptable tail in international cricket?

I was thinking about this the other day when people were debating the merits of McDonald's inclusion in the side. Granted he's an allrounder, but it's the first time I can remember that the batting merits of a member of the core bowling lineup have come under discussion.

I am somewhat of a traditionalist - I think you should select your four bowlers to give you the best attack, regardless of batting proficiency, and if any of them can wield a willow it's a bonus. I realise the day of the specialist wicketkeeper is over, and seven recognised batsmen should be enough for any side to get the job done.

However I have noticed a bit of a trend (not just in Australia) to push for eight recognised batsmen, with the fourth bowler quite often being an allrounder. This is fine if you have a Flintoff or a Kallis in your side, but that is pretty rare. Also, bowlers are expected to have to get out there and give it a dig, and often get or support another batsman in getting quite significant totals.

In recent years we have been quite spoilt in Australia. Although we have lacked any truly excellent Test allrounders (aside from the odd Test where Symonds' bowling clicked), we have had a tough tail with Warne, Lee and more recently Johnson all capable of making runs, and players like Clark and Kaspa at least capable of sticking around for extended periods. Now we're not so quite so lucky, although I think our pure bowlers still bat better than most.

So what's an acceptable tail? Personally, I'm happy with seven recognised batsmen, one bowler who can get some runs at a pinch, and maybe one or two of the others who are capable of sticking around for the others. I know we've had our arse saved a few times by brilliant lower-order stands, but I think if you start worrying about how well your tail bats you've got your priorities wrong.

Thoughts?
 
Re: How long is an acceptable tail in international cricket?

I guess nowadays you're looking for something along the lines of this:

1 & 2 average 40
3,4,5 average 45-50
6-7 average 35-45
8-9 average 15-20
10-11 average 10-15

Which would give you an average innings score of around 350, which is competitive.

In terms of why it's changes, well, I guess it's because the game is percieved as being for the batsman. Teams put pressure on their opponents by racking up 450-500, not by bowling them out for 200.

Pitches tend to be good (possibly too good), so having the extended tail gives more protection against collapses or inspired spells of bowling.

Something that has had me thinking for a while is the impact of things like Kwik Cricket (Milo cricket?) and pairs cricket. Playing these forms of the game when younger has probably led to players being slightly more 'all round' than say 20/30 years ago.

Players are encouraged to bat, bowl and even keep wicket, so it makes sense that overall skills should have improved. I'm guessing that selectors see this as well and therefore expect more.
 
Re: How long is an acceptable tail in international cricket?

I'm hearing you Caesar- I'm also a beliver in picking a player based on what he's supreme at, rather than hedging bets and picking someone who's just alright in a few different aspects.

Based on that I'd say a tail of four specialist bowlers would be fine, esp. when they can all contribute something with the bat as well on their day.

As it is looking Johnson is taking over that Lee spot, Siddle can hit a few, as can Hilfy, Clark can if he can get fit again- so really it would only be Dougy who doesn't really score- and based on MacDonald in the last test- neither does he! :D
 
Re: How long is an acceptable tail in international cricket?

i just read over this thread and it reminded me of the walking forward defence - dizzy gillespie. damn i miss him.
australia needs a tailender like him. at the moment they are all stroke players with lee, mitch, clark, hauritz and hilfy to some extent all playing and timing the ball pretty well, but get out when doing it or get rolled over by balls that they shouldnt have played aggressively to. gillespie was able to block out balls all day and allow his partner to do their stuff. plus he could also take up the attack (hes the only player to average under 20 and score a double century). he has a pretty bad stats card, but it doesnt show how much he helped boost the total another 50-100 runs by blocking out over after over. theres a reason they called him the walking forward defence.
 
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