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Is Windies cricket dying?

Sure, the Windies have been crap for nearly ten years but that doesn't
explain the decline in quality of cricket and public interest. Answer's
in two words: Michael Jordon. For the last two decades Yank influence
in the Windies has severely eroded cricket. Windies kids now want to
play basketball, run track, in Yankland and also play soccer. Cricket no
longer interests them. Solution: have to turn this into a two-way,
not just one-way, cultural street. Have to get Yank kids wanting to play
a Windies game so Windies kids stop wanting to only play Yank games.
Otherwise could see Windies become the first cricket country to lose its
status as a full member.
 
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timmyj51;149503 said:
Sure, the Windies have been crap for nearly ten years but that doesn't
explain the decline in quality of cricket and public interest. Answer's
in two words: Michael Jordon. For the last two decades Yank influence
in the Windies has severely eroded cricket. Windies kids now want to
play basketball, run track, in Yankland and also play soccer. Cricket no
longer interests them. Solution: have to turn this into a two-way,
not just one-way, cultural street. Have to get Yank kids wanting to play
a Windies game so Windies kids stop wanting to only play Yank games.
Otherwise could see Windies become the first cricket country to lose its status as a full member.
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Is Zimbabwe not a country now?
 
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timmyj51;149503 said:
Sure, the Windies have been crap for nearly ten years but that doesn't
explain the decline in quality of cricket and public interest. Answer's
in two words: Michael Jordon. For the last two decades Yank influence
in the Windies has severely eroded cricket. Windies kids now want to
play basketball, run track, in Yankland and also play soccer. Cricket no
longer interests them. Solution: have to turn this into a two-way,
not just one-way, cultural street. Have to get Yank kids wanting to play
a Windies game so Windies kids stop wanting to only play Yank games.
Otherwise could see Windies become the first cricket country to lose its
status as a full member.
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Huh? How is playing against them going to make the Windies lose interest in "American" sports? And how do you figure it is interest in those sports that made them lose interest in cricket? Most everything is cyclical. In 10-15 years you may very well be seeing a different story and a return of the monster 80's teams.
 
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Ljp86;149510 said:
Is Zimbabwe not a country now?
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"Country" maybe. Legitimate member of the
international community: doubtful.
 
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"In 10-15 years you may very well be seeing a different story and a return of the monster 80's teams."



Or, even weaker teams, smaller crowds, less money, etc, etc....
 
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timmyj51;149575 said:
"In 10-15 years you may very well be seeing a different story and a return of the monster 80's teams."



Or, even weaker teams, smaller crowds, less money, etc, etc....
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Then again, if you believe global warming the icebergs may melt and swallow the islands whole so why bother??

I still do not understand how you arrived to the conclusion that American sports are responsible for the decline. I based mine on a cycle, which is pretty evident in most events. The 70's were great for basketball, it hit a rough patch, and now it is doing well again.
 
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timmyj51;149503 said:
Sure, the Windies have been crap for nearly ten years but that doesn't
explain the decline in quality of cricket and public interest. Answer's
in two words: Michael Jordon. For the last two decades Yank influence
in the Windies has severely eroded cricket. Windies kids now want to
play basketball, run track, in Yankland and also play soccer. Cricket no
longer interests them. Solution: have to turn this into a two-way,
not just one-way, cultural street. Have to get Yank kids wanting to play
a Windies game so Windies kids stop wanting to only play Yank games.
Otherwise could see Windies become the first cricket country to lose its
status as a full member.
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Simplistic, myopic view.
 
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timmyj51;149573 said:
"Country" maybe. Legitimate member of the
international community: doubtful.
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Country: Yes
Full member: Was banned a while back which proves your West Indies point very wrong. Will be reinstated as a test member later this year I believe.
 
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Ljp86;149847 said:
Country: Yes
Full member: Was banned a while back which proves your West Indies point very wrong. Will be reinstated as a test member later this year I believe.
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Zimbabwe is still a Full Member. They have just temporarily suspended themselves from playing Tests.
 
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Stamislav;149863 said:
Zimbabwe is still a Full Member. They have just temporarily suspended themselves from playing Tests.
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Well, they'll be reinsating themselves. :p
 
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Diamond Joe Quimby;149768 said:
Whew. I thought it was just me.
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"Men become little as they become more alike" --Chamfort
 
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Saturday;150005 said:
Windies will always struggle to be a consistent force because of their low population.
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.well...also wrong..

Actually, inspite of low populations, Windies have been able to produce fine cricketers. Of course if you have a larger population, you have a larger talent pool to choose from, but cricket always captured the imagination of West Indians..and this was always reflected in their love of the sport and their talent.
 
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Saturday;150005 said:
Windies will always struggle to be a consistent force because of their low population.
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Huh?

Australia's population is about 19 million with 5 other sporting codes taking prospective players away and their record in the last 15 years has been unrivalled in international cricket. Population is not the problem. Development is. They lived for far too long off the success of the late 70's early 80's and probably assumed it was going to kick on without realising nothing kicks on without preparation and development.

While the original point was generalised it does have merit. But it's not just American sports. Soccer is also growing in the Caribbean and in a lot of cases they don't have the funds to have development systems at the required level. Having said that cricket is starting to take shape again with some talented players coming through and recent finals appearances in some ICC tournaments have shown that. It's just going to take time.
 
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Looks like a full crowd at today's match. That's good to see.
 
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