North A and B 09/10

[CheeQuee]

re: North A and B 10/11

I see young Brown from Jacana has been cleared to Willy CYMS (and played in their 1sts on saturday).
Can anybody from Jacana shed some light as to why he's left? Notice he was playing mostly 2nds before XMas.

 

[sambo]

re: North A and B 10/11

uncle windows...id be pretty confident in saying most batsmen in this level of cricket hit balls in the air.. You make it sound like a crime! And if you do the 'sums' for most teams i reckon you would find that the top 4 batsman SHOULD be providing the majority of their teams runs. Thats why they are batting in the top 4. Its a nothing stat. Its like saying that our top 4 bowlers have taken most of our wickets! The figure of 72% of our runs have been made by our top 4 batsmen also tells me that all four are approaching finals with form. Id be much more concerned if they had made only 42 or 52% of the sides total runs. Basically they are doing their job. What it also shows uncle is that nearly 3 out of every 10 runs is being made by our lower and tail end players. So i suppose being 7 for 60 chasing 110 and getting them against your mob highlights that beautifully.

 

[BigCoq]

re: North A and B 10/11

Certainly agree with you chee, looking forward to the ladder on Sunday night. Flemington could be the big movers with very winnable games against Seabrook and St Andrews. For Bigcoq and his boys its do or die im afraid, playing Jacana and Aberfeldie in the one weekend will certainly sort out their fortunes.

Do we read into Kingy Bapts game last week against flem?, they have a tough weekend also, playing the other sides in the top four. Lets hope the rain stays away on sunday and Jacana can produce a wicket!

Good to play every one at least once now.
it seems were a little way of the mark yet.
Loosing our top 3 bats and opening bowler not the ideal way to take on the vtca b comp.
At least we know what to expect and build from there.
just try to finish off on a positive note in the two dayers.
Good luck to all in the finals.

 

[Uncle Windows]

re: North A and B 10/11

your are a smart man!

Goods bats hit the ball along the ground. We had plan for your top bats and it worked. You made 320 last we played. We are side that has not won a game and our team is inexperienced, your team relies on four bats that can be dismissed easliy.

 

[Its crunch time]

re: North A and B 10/11

I see young Brown from Jacana has been cleared to Willy CYMS (and played in their 1sts on saturday).
Can anybody from Jacana shed some light as to why he's left? Notice he was playing mostly 2nds before XMas.

I know he always rated himself very highly although he bowls all over the shop so maybe he had enough. Jacana goin pretty well and probably dont need him, not to mention he has a mouth on him.

 

[Uncle Windows]

re: North A and B 10/11

Sambo, I take you have no comment about you team mate embarassing himself.

 

[Missing Leg]

re: North A and B 10/11

Can anyone enlighten us as to what happened in the Werribee Centrals V Seddon game? W.C bowled out for for 70 then Seddon dismissed for 50??? Did Phil produce a dodgy wicket?

 

[sambo]

re: North A and B 10/11

thanks for your reply uncle.. Yes your plan worked well.. We did make 320 last time but remember that our player that made 165 did not play this time round. He should be back game after next. Also remember that whilst your plan to catch out our top 4 bats might have worked, your total of 100 was not enough and as most good teams should do, we did enough to win. Its silly to think that coz a side is on top that they will dominate every session of every match. Your team had a very good 10 to 15 over period where we were poor.thats cricket uncle... We ended up with the win though and trust me all the boys know where they went wrong.. As for the square leg incident i dont know anything about it or have been told anything either. But whilst making no excuses ive seen plenty of 'incidents' in 24 years of cricket unfortunately. Always going to happen when there is only 1 umpire mate..

 

[Missing Leg]

re: North A and B 10/11

Can anyone enlighten us as to what happened in the Werribee Centrals V Seddon game? W.C bowled out for for 70 then Seddon dismissed for 50??? Did you produce a dodgy wicket Phil?

 

[IntoThe Wind]

re: North A and B 10/11

I wouldn't worry too much about the square leg. I did not see/hear about the incident, but I am sure every cricketer at our level has a square leg story! Most blokes are good sports and try and be fair but, to be honest, most would rather be considered a cheat by the opposition, than give a team mate out. Just how it goes. Luckily 2 umpires in finals.

And as for your comment regarding your batsman coming back, I am pretty sure D Roach has played his last game for MV! Would be shocked if he played another game and if he did, it would not be for the right reasons.

 

[He who knows best]

re: North A and B 10/11

Good to play every one at least once now.
it seems were a little way of the mark yet.
Loosing our top 3 bats and opening bowler not the ideal way to take on the vtca b comp.
At least we know what to expect and build from there.
just try to finish off on a positive note in the two dayers.
Good luck to all in the finals.

based on what you have come up against BC who are the teams you believe will go close ? and for what reasons

 

[ROY G BIV]

re: North A and B 10/11

your are a smart man!

Goods bats hit the ball along the ground. We had plan for your top bats and it worked. You made 320 last we played. We are side that has not won a game and our team is inexperienced, your team relies on four bats that can be dismissed easliy.

Windows a man with the plan?
blob from 8 games don't tell me that was your plan Windows.

Couldn't afford atleast 1 pro/experienced palyer, even craigeburn has portou.

Any plans for NTH B next season how many of the current crop will still be there , clubs always lose a few when they go down a grade.

 

[ROY G BIV]

re: North A and B 10/11

I know it's late but predictions for this week boys?

Werribee to easily account for Seddon who are struggling without Major
Moonee Valley to have the game won by the 13th over against HeightsSt.Albans and East an absolute cracker of a game. St.Albans to bounce back for mine. Will be interesting to see if Moorehouse can get some runs against a quality attack
F Utd in a canter
And Lakes to easily account and end Albions season. The loser definately out of the race for the four I would reckon

A bit harsh there canary. Avondale had Moonee Valley 7/60 odd chasing only 112 for a win. If anything Avondale should've won but talking to old timer's there inexpreince cost 'em 2 weeks in row. First one dayer back were in a position to clean up Albion as well.

On Moonee Valley very fragile batting line up get openers and pererra out and rest should be easy pickings. Can't work ouit how they're on top how bad are the rest?

 

[shhhhhhhhhhh]

re: North A and B 10/11

Sambo, I take you have no comment about you team mate embarassing himself.

uncle i once played at moonee valley and know a few of the boys, after reading your post i rang one of them and it seems that avondales coach was acting like a bit of a clown all day from the side lines.. is that true

 

[Its crunch time]

re: North A and B 10/11

A bit harsh there canary. Avondale had Moonee Valley 7/60 odd chasing only 112 for a win. If anything Avondale should've won but talking to old timer's there inexpreince cost 'em 2 weeks in row. First one dayer back were in a position to clean up Albion as well.

On Moonee Valley very fragile batting line up get openers and pererra out and rest should be easy pickings. Can't work ouit how they're on top how bad are the rest?

It would seem that way, but they have some handy lower order hitters! Put Werribee's bowling attack with there batting line up an you wouldn't lose a game. And yes the rest isnt much chop , look at footscray St.Albans E.K climb up the ladder this year , its only because the gun sides are in North division now. But be sure to see Tullamarine get relegated next year , seriously struggling.

 

[sambo]

re: North A and B 10/11

hear what your saying 'into the wind'... Fact is tho mate there are probably 100 blokes running around the vtca 'for the wrong reasons'... Its just the way things are these days hey...

 

[2time]

re: North A and B 10/11

It would seem that way, but they have some handy lower order hitters! Put Werribee's bowling attack with there batting line up an you wouldn't lose a game. And yes the rest isnt much chop , look at footscray St.Albans E.K climb up the ladder this year , its only because the gun sides are in North division now. But be sure to see Tullamarine get relegated next year , seriously struggling.

I wouldn't call Parkville, Westy or Tullamarine gun sides last season. Solid at best.

 

[sledger1976]

re: North A and B 10/11

Jacana can bowl very well but struggle with the bat there skipper and 1 other fella can bat ok. Aberfeldie dont have any real guns . An yes from what ive heard Avondale should get relegated and Craieburn should of never went up who are they kidding??? they only finished 4th last year.

To all the people picking on Craigieburn, I think you will find that most sides that have played against them think they are a nice bunch of guys. Yes they have struggled this year yet dont be surprised in a couple of weeks when they play Albion and Avondale Heights and win them both that they will not get relegated. Not to bad for a team that has blooded over 8 under 16 players and a under 14 player.

 

[Its crunch time]

re: North A and B 10/11

Im talking about the teams that went up last year besides Tulla compared 2 this years teams.

 

[Its crunch time]

re: North A and B 10/11

I have to agree with Sambo everyone hits the ball in the air from time to time even the gun bat's. If you go through the best bats in the comp im sure most do, but Raj from M.V an Yoshi usually keep it on the carpet. And ok there 4 bats have made most there runs but so what if you've got 4 gun bats that's probably enough to get you into the finals. I hear M.V rely on on only a few bat's but if you dont get them out cheaply good chance you wont win.

 

[ROY G BIV]

re: North A and B 10/11

It would seem that way, but they have some handy lower order hitters! Put Werribee's bowling attack with there batting line up an you wouldn't lose a game. And yes the rest isnt much chop , look at footscray St.Albans E.K climb up the ladder this year , its only because the gun sides are in North division now. But be sure to see Tullamarine get relegated next year , seriously struggling.

yep ur probably correct there pal.

MValley must be doing something right to be top of the ladder after 8 rounds and CONGRATULATIONS to 'em great effort after coming up from NTH B.

I am not having a go at them, well i dunno i am probably having a dig at the standard of cricket in NTH A1 this year given some of the sides in Finals contention. MValley is just one example, could've used Ekeilor, Funited etc to make the same point, i guess it will take a few years of promotion + relegations to sort this grade out.

But from my perpective it remains the weakest i have ever seen and sadly standard for mine has been on decline for last 3 years or so. In strong NTH A1 of years past some of the frontrunners this year would count 'em selves lucky to have 2 wins by now.
But that's living in the past. The reality is Mvalley top, Funited 2nd and same underneath

Spare a thought for teams on the bottom imagine if we had a strong grade, they think this years tough!

 

[ROY G BIV]

re: North A and B 10/11

I have to agree with Sambo everyone hits the ball in the air from time to time even the gun bat's. If you go through the best bats in the comp im sure most do, but Raj from M.V an Yoshi usually keep it on the carpet. And ok there 4 bats have made most there runs but so what if you've got 4 gun bats that's probably enough to get you into the finals. I hear M.V rely on on only a few bat's but if you dont get them out cheaply good chance you wont win.

Mate i would love to buy some land from u blokes.
you call these battlers gun bats???
terms like gun + champions are so freely used nowadays they've lost all meaning. Raj is an OK bat having a good season, pererra is more talented and probably should be doing more at this level than he is. from what i have seen of Raj he's most productive shot is hitting across the line to on side fence or over the top to any pitched up delivery need plenty of luck and some very oridinary bowlers to get away with that...but credit where credit is due he's one of the reasons MV are on top. So well done fella but plz go easy on gun/champ tags.

 

[BigCoq]

re: North A and B 10/11

based on what you have come up against BC who are the teams you believe will go close ? and for what reasons

I believe its between Abers and AP.
Jacana need a doggy track to get up good bowlers average bats.
Kingy on their day are more than capable very even side.
Abers are a very experienced side.Good bats.
AP probably the best side so far good bowling attack and solid bats.
Roosters & Seabrook short in both departments.
Flemington dont really know much about em.

 

[Its crunch time]

re: North A and B 10/11

I said even the gun bat's hit the ball in the air . I didnt say the 4 M.V batter's are gun's. But Yoshi yes is a proven gun made 652 last year you dont just fluke that. Raj probably going to make 500 + better then a good season.And ive seen probably 6 oof his knock's and certainly isn't a cross batter he has 1 of the better technique's going around. Very handy player id love to have him in my side anyday. Top bloke to

 

[ROY G BIV]

re: North A and B 10/11

I wouldn't call Parkville, Westy or Tullamarine gun sides last season. Solid at best.

mate have u seen westmeadows full strenght side this year, no wonder they are with are a massive show in that grade, put M Butera in that side + a couple of other quality gets and there's your good side.

Admittedly last year they were OK not a gun side but better than most, with a liitle more luck would have made finals 3/4th possie at best. Had no luck last year.

In the new VTCA If as a club you wanna play half decent local cricket NTH A is the place to be. If you wanna mix it with the big spenders Sen Division is your go.

NTH A1 is for clubs to lick their wounds and remember the good old days and NTH B is back to school and start again i am afraid. Over time the off field strength of your club determines where you play.

 

[ROY G BIV]

re: North A and B 10/11

I have to agree with Sambo everyone hits the ball in the air from time to time even the gun bat's. If you go through the best bats in the comp im sure most do, but Raj from M.V an Yoshi usually keep it on the carpet. And ok there 4 bats have made most there runs but so what if you've got 4 gun bats that's probably enough to get you into the finals. I hear M.V rely on on only a few bat's but if you dont get them out cheaply good chance you wont win.

i thought that's where u referred to 'em as gun bats?

anyhow Raj is having a terrific season with the bat and good on him.
nothing against the bloke (don't know him) just a personal observation playing against him.
He's certainly out performing most other blokes in NTH A1 this season.

 

[Its crunch time]

re: North A and B 10/11

mate have u seen westmeadows full strenght side this year, no wonder they are with are a massive show in that grade, put M Butera in that side + a couple of other quality gets and there's your good side.

Admittedly last year they were OK not a gun side but better than most, with a liitle more luck would have made finals 3/4th possie at best. Had no luck last year.

In the new VTCA If as a club you wanna play half decent local cricket NTH A is the place to be. If you wanna mix it with the big spenders Sen Division is your go.

NTH A1 is for clubs to lick their wounds and remember the good old days and NTH B is back to school and start again i am afraid. Over time the off field strength of your club determines where you play.

I agree to an extent , but A1 isnt too much better then B1 there's some gun cricketer's around in B1 Albers probably the best in B1 and A1, Kwhaja could certainly mix it in A1 as would Pascu and Otoole just to mention a few. A1 not to convincing at all this year, it has dropped in standard massively from last season.

 

[Its crunch time]

re: North A and B 10/11

Glad we finally agree lol, Yer not to many setting the world on fire in A1 or B1

 

[Its crunch time]

re: North A and B 10/11

mate have u seen westmeadows full strenght side this year, no wonder they are with are a massive show in that grade, put M Butera in that side + a couple of other quality gets and there's your good side.

Admittedly last year they were OK not a gun side but better than most, with a liitle more luck would have made finals 3/4th possie at best. Had no luck last year.

In the new VTCA If as a club you wanna play half decent local cricket NTH A is the place to be. If you wanna mix it with the big spenders Sen Division is your go.

NTH A1 is for clubs to lick their wounds and remember the good old days and NTH B is back to school and start again i am afraid. Over time the off field strength of your club determines where you play.

I agree to an extent , but A1 isnt too much better then B1 there's some gun cricketer's around in B1 Albers probably the best in B1 and A1, Kwhaja could certainly mix it in A1 as would Pascu and Otoole just to mention a few. A1 not to convincing at all this year, it has dropped in standard massively from last season.

 

[ROY G BIV]

re: North A and B 10/11

That's why i said last season. Westy were a talented side but lost games they should of won. Good luck to them for this year i hope they go close... Fair enough to say that the there are a couple of sides in Nth A that aren't ready yet but they'll be the better for it. With the changes to the divisions the first few years were always going to be like that. Any tips for this round....

East Keilor v Werribee Centrals

Match of the round.
Way better bowling attack WC, EK has more batting depth.
WC should win.
I like WC chances this season, but for mine they need to win this
convincingly to give me more confidence in their flag tilt this year.
right now for the top billing they are grouped together with a few sides.

EK has batting depth for mine but are relying too much on the pom and J bell.
Other blokes in the middle and even late order batters need to give more, they are capable
but time to produce or fininsh outta top 4.




Seddon v Avondale Heights

AH could notch up their 1st win, should’ve won against Albion + MValley the
Last 2 games so 3rd time lucky I reckon. Seddon need major on board, seddon will go into this game as
Favourites. Avondale has the longest tail in the comp when it comes to batting , I reckon it start after no: 4. Difficult to tip ‘em knowing that but I think their couple of senior batters are due.

Albion v Footscray United

Albion has been Foot united’s bogey club, have dished out some thumping loses to Funited in their time.
Even last year when albion was down the bottom they knocked off Funited easy. Bt despite all that I find it difficult to tip ‘em. FUnited to win in a danger games for them. old timer-opening bowler keeps going like an energizer bunny + they have a good batting depth alot of blokes down ot no: 9 can chip in with 30's + preece + jeffrey add some class.

Forget all that i am changing my tip Albion in an Upset.

Craigieburn v St Albans

St Albans Outright. unless portou slogs a hundred.

Moonee Valley v Taylors Lakes

Good game.
If taylors lakes had a better bowling attack they would win easy.
But since that is not the case I tip ‘em in a close one.

TLakes Very solid batters Markham + g gones good contributors this season.

MValley credentials not convinced about them still.

 

[ROY G BIV]

re: North A and B 10/11

I agree to an extent , but A1 isnt too much better then B1 there's some gun cricketer's around in B1 Albers probably the best in B1 and A1, Kwhaja could certainly mix it in A1 as would Pascu and Otoole just to mention a few. A1 not to convincing at all this year, it has dropped in standard massively from last season.

Look at Aberfeldie got relegated (FINALLY) to NTH B and are not exactly setting the world on fire. SO you are right NTH A1 and NTH B difference is not that great this season. a couple of the names you mentioned would do well in any grade in VTCA.

I reckon Matty Albers mob if they were in NTH A1 this season, they would be up the top 4 somewhere as well.

Looks to me Aber Park have to walk under a ladder or something to mess things up this year, they should go up a grade + who joins 'em from far i still reckon aberfeldie are a chance to make the granny? Know nothing about Jacana or the rest, Flemington used to be OK club but seem to be struggling in B?

NTH B should welcome once mighty Avondale and cragieburn in 2010/2011. I reckon these two may stay in NTH B for a while as well.

 

[Canary Yellow]

re: North A and B 10/11

East Keilor v Werribee Centrals

Match of the round.
Way better bowling attack WC, EK has more batting depth.
WC should win.
I like WC chances this season, but for mine they need to win this
convincingly to give me more confidence in their flag tilt this year.
right now for the top billing they are grouped together with a few sides.

EK has batting depth for mine but are relying too much on the pom and J bell.
Other blokes in the middle and even late order batters need to give more, they are capable
but time to produce or fininsh outta top 4.




Seddon v Avondale Heights

AH could notch up their 1st win, should’ve won against Albion + MValley the
Last 2 games so 3rd time lucky I reckon. Seddon need major on board, seddon will go into this game as
Favourites. Avondale has the longest tail in the comp when it comes to batting , I reckon it start after no: 4. Difficult to tip ‘em knowing that but I think their couple of senior batters are due.

Albion v Footscray United

Albion has been Foot united’s bogey club, have dished out some thumping loses to Funited in their time.
Even last year when albion was down the bottom they knocked off Funited easy. Bt despite all that I find it difficult to tip ‘em. FUnited to win in a danger games for them. old timer-opening bowler keeps going like an energizer bunny + they have a good batting depth alot of blokes down ot no: 9 can chip in with 30's + preece + jeffrey add some class.

Forget all that i am changing my tip Albion in an Upset.

Craigieburn v St Albans

St Albans Outright. unless portou slogs a hundred.

Moonee Valley v Taylors Lakes

Good game.
If taylors lakes had a better bowling attack they would win easy.
But since that is not the case I tip ‘em in a close one.

TLakes Very solid batters Markham + g gones good contributors this season.

MValley credentials not convinced about them still.

Roy, I do usually enjoy reading your posts, but Albion to beat FU, have you been drinking mate. That game could be all over tomorrow if Albion bat first. They are a rabble

 

[Its crunch time]

re: North A and B 10/11

Look at Aberfeldie got relegated (FINALLY) to NTH B and are not exactly setting the world on fire. SO you are right NTH A1 and NTH B difference is not that great this season. a couple of the names you mentioned would do well in any grade in VTCA.

I reckon Matty Albers mob if they were in NTH A1 this season, they would be up the top 4 somewhere as well.

Looks to me Aber Park have to walk under a ladder or something to mess things up this year, they should go up a grade + who joins 'em from far i still reckon aberfeldie are a chance to make the granny? Know nothing about Jacana or the rest, Flemington used to be OK club but seem to be struggling in B?

NTH B should welcome once mighty Avondale and cragieburn in 2010/2011. I reckon these two may stay in NTH B for a while as well.

Jacana can bowl very well but struggle with the bat there skipper and 1 other fella can bat ok. Aberfeldie dont have any real guns . An yes from what ive heard Avondale should get relegated and Craieburn should of never went up who are they kidding??? they only finished 4th last year.

 

[phil crea]

re: North A and B 10/11

Roy, I do usually enjoy reading your posts, but Albion to beat FU, have you been drinking mate. That game could be all over tomorrow if Albion bat first. They are a rabble

going along nicely down werribee way

 

[sambo]

re: North A and B 10/11

craigieburn finding it tough.. But gotta give the boys credit for jumping at the chance to go up when other clubs knocked it back... Better to live and learn than always wonder 'what if'... They will be better for the experience...having played against them for the better part of 20 years, they are a good club that is run well and a good bunch of blokes to boot..

 

[ROY G BIV]

re: North A and B 10/11

Roy, I do usually enjoy reading your posts, but Albion to beat FU, have you been drinking mate. That game could be all over tomorrow if Albion bat first. They are a rabble

Yeah it seems i probably was on somenthing when i entered my tips.

Although i do like to see underdogs get up, tipping Avondale & Albion in the same round was pushing it a tad too much.

As it happens both are getting flogged.

But forget all that EK 53! what's the go there?

 

[Pump]

re: North A and B 10/11

I believe its between Abers and AP.
Jacana need a doggy track to get up good bowlers average bats.
Kingy on their day are more than capable very even side.
Abers are a very experienced side.Good bats.
AP probably the best side so far good bowling attack and solid bats.
Roosters & Seabrook short in both departments.
Flemington dont really know much about em.

Some very interesting results over the w/e. After talking to a few of the abers boys they r pretty disappointed in sat results. Especially considering a leg side stumping given not out. From all reports G Semerzidis still falling fwd when bails whipped off at a very important stage of the game (made 19 no won by 5 runs) What do u guys think about when u r at square leg? If they r out give them no matter wat the situation?

 

[He who knows best]

re: North A and B 10/11

Some interesting results in Nth B

Kingsville implode against Flemington, all out 113 and Flemington 1/57

having lost to Jacana in the previous one day game and winning by a very small margin against Abers are they starting to choke ? as predicted on here they are very thin talent wise and when a couple of their better players struggle they can be shown up

Abers and Aber Park both set decent targets in the finish but appeared to both be in some trouble with Aber Park 7/118 and Abers 8/140 at various stages, sign of decent sides when their bottom orders get them up to 240 and 200 respectively in the end though

Seabrook 2/20 chasing Abers so another close one on the agenda there, while the Roosters need 225 on a quick ground...very gettable if they bat the overs

Jacana seems home against St Andrews

If Abers beat Seabrook then you would think the top 4 is settled based on the current points with only the make up of the Top 4 being left to settle

End of season prediction

Aber Park
Jacana
Abers
Kingsville Baptists (just getting there from Flemington who storm home)

 

[Its crunch time]

re: North A and B 10/11

Some very interesting results over the w/e. After talking to a few of the abers boys they r pretty disappointed in sat results. Especially considering a leg side stumping given not out. From all reports G Semerzidis still falling fwd when bails whipped off at a very important stage of the game (made 19 no won by 5 runs) What do u guys think about when u r at square leg? If they r out give them no matter wat the situation?

Thats why we need 2 umpires! There's always dodgy decisions that's cricket, dont really rate Abers no really dangerous players. Best bat Nyhus and he hasnt set the world on fire

 

[phil crea]

re: North A and B 10/11

Yeah it seems i probably was on somenthing when i entered my tips.

Although i do like to see underdogs get up, tipping Avondale & Albion in the same round was pushing it a tad too much.

As it happens both are getting flogged.

But forget all that EK 53! what's the go there?

bit in the track ,when u got 2 classy bowlers most sides would have struggled ,must say very impressed by young aerosmith very good bowler and a great kid