LIONS then DAYLIGHT
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Re: Pre-Ashes 2010/11 Discussion thread.
Eddie has gone AWOL; hardly surprising.
Eddie has gone AWOL; hardly surprising.
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eddiesmith;398499 said:Have I? Didnt realise there was anything new to respond to, just seems to be the same biased rubbish, nothing I post will change anything, you will keep repeating the same stuff, non Australians playing for Australia are true Aussies, English born players playing for England are true Aussies
LIONS then DAYLIGHT;398508 said:No-one is arguing that at all champ.
I'm simply saying that Trott and Kieswetter are South Africans playing for England.
courtjester;398110 said:Just as a sideline, do you think that we will see any retirements after the series ends? The Ashes is basically the pinnacle for Aus cricketers, and we have some guys (Hussey, Katich, Ponting & Haddin) getting pretty old now. I reckon Katich and Hussey will play til they're dropped, considering they made late starts, but I wonder how much longer Ponting will go for to be honest. Haddin only needs to drop a catch or two and fail with the bat before the questions will be asked. If these guys dont have a good series, the media will get the knives out quick I reckon.
Boris;398579 said:I'm the same as A For Effort.
I think it's the perfect time for him.
I'm a big thing with the mental side of the game, players rights and honouring a player's contribution.
There is no better time for him to retire after the Ashes, giving Clarke a good warm up over the series and letting himself just fade out.
He can have a big farewell at every ground as he goes around just like McGrath and Warne.
Doesn't mean we have to not be sad that he's going, but I think it's the right time for him.
Hussey and Katich can play on, and it lessons the next 'transistion' that you say will be tougher anyway LtD. This will make it easier.
I'm not going to be annoyed if he doesn't, but I think it's the right thing to do.
a for effort;398584 said:Hayden's last 17 test innings:
0, 13, 0, 29, 83, 16*, 16, 77, 8, 0, 24, 12, 4, 8, 23, 31, 39.
The media had been calling for his head for a while before he was nudged into retiring.
Spare us the revisionist history in defence of a fellow "PROUD QUEENSLANDER".
LIONS then DAYLIGHT;398586 said:How patronizing?
Lets all 'honour Ponting's contribution'.
What crap, why the hell would Ponting feel the need to announce to everyone before a massive series that his going to retire so he can have a big farewell.
Ponting probably couldn't care less whether he is fare welled or not.
If Ponting were going to retire he'd announce it a few weeks after the team got back from the World Cup. I can't see Ponting announcing his retirement before the Ashes begins; if Australia seal the series before the Boxing day test than maybe Ponting might say, 'look, Im going to call it quits after the World Cup'. However, Ponting doesn't come across to be as that way inclined; I don't think his going to want a farewell, he'll rather win the Ashes back, do well in the World Cup, come home, and announce it while the team is having a break.
If he were to announce his retirement in November before the Ashes starts, I would be extremely surprised.
LIONS then DAYLIGHT;398591 said:Ever thought that sometimes people don't like farewells?
Ponting won't be worrying about farewells, he isn't even really well liked by the Australian public, Ponting will be concentrating on the Ashes and the World Cup, not parades or farewells.
Boris;398590 said:We might as well worry about that after the biggest two events, and he should have a fitting farewell however he chooses to have it.
LIONS then DAYLIGHT;398593 said:Well done Boris.
You and me are the best posters on these boards.
LIONS then DAYLIGHT;398587 said:Those 2 half tons came at the end of the Indian tour, and it looked like Hayden was returning to form after a lay-off.
Im not revising anything champ, simply telling it like it is.
Haydens form 2008/09 season
43, 17, 33, 124, 47, 13, 123, 103 @ 62
Why don't you give the entire story, rather than a selection of facts to support your opinions.
The story is pretty simple to follow: Hayden had a superb 2008/09 season, got injured at the IPL - missed the West Indies tour, returned for the Indian tour, started slowly, found form near the end of the tour, returned home and struggled to get into a decent rhythm, retired at the end of the season.
The fact that it was an embarrassing finale, as you put it, is simply crap.
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