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North/West group 1st XI – round 2 wrap:
Brunswick 7/354 (cc) defeated Yarraville 10/179
Ivanhoe 10/172 & 6/147 defeated Altona 10/124
Melton 10/155 defeated Werribee 10/113 & 1/44
Preston 9/141 defeated Taylors Lakes 10/139
Williamstown 10/286 defeated Kew 8/253
Plenty Valley 1/178 defeated Coburg 10/172
St. Bernard's 8/318 (cc) defeated by Hoppers Crossing 9/320 (Hoppers Crossing won with 1 ball left in the game)

Round 3 schedule – Saturday November 4th (T/20 round) *note 3.45pm start:
Kew v Plenty Valley
Werribee v Williamstown
Taylors Lakes v Melton
Brunswick v Preston
Coburg v St Bernard’s
Hoppers Crossing v Ivanhoe
Altona v Yarraville
 

taga

New Member
North/West group 1st XI – round 2 wrap:
Brunswick 7/354 (cc) defeated Yarraville 10/179
Ivanhoe 10/172 & 6/147 defeated Altona 10/124
Melton 10/155 defeated Werribee 10/113 & 1/44
Preston 9/141 defeated Taylors Lakes 10/139
Williamstown 10/286 defeated Kew 8/253
Plenty Valley 1/178 defeated Coburg 10/172
St. Bernard's 8/318 (cc) defeated by Hoppers Crossing 9/320 (Hoppers Crossing won with 1 ball left in the game)

Round 3 schedule – Saturday November 4th (T/20 round) *note 3.45pm start:
Kew v Plenty Valley
Werribee v Williamstown
Taylors Lakes v Melton
Brunswick v Preston
Coburg v St Bernard’s
Hoppers Crossing v Ivanhoe
Altona v Yarraville
What are everyones thoughts on the T20 round? Not sure its worth only having one T20 game in the season for points..
 

Young Willi Lad

Active Member
Don't like it, not sure what purpose it serves
It is to ensure players are equipped for T20 Cricket if they choose to play Premier Cricket into the future. People will say we have a Tuesday night T20 Competition but that is played by the majority of the 1st XI so this match gives all XI's the opportunity.

I would say 95% of players do not love the format and would rather play a 45 or 80 over match but the reality is, is that it is a form of the game and we need to accept it and move on. Must be taken seriously when there are 6 points up for grabs.
 

dougie05

Member
It is to ensure players are equipped for T20 Cricket if they choose to play Premier Cricket into the future. People will say we have a Tuesday night T20 Competition but that is played by the majority of the 1st XI so this match gives all XI's the opportunity.

I would say 95% of players do not love the format and would rather play a 45 or 80 over match but the reality is, is that it is a form of the game and we need to accept it and move on. Must be taken seriously when there are 6 points up for grabs.
Totally agree with this post but if you want the buy in from the players, the competition needs to ensure the round itself is taken seriously.

You can't play a game for 6 points when you bowl 5 overs from each end. If that means you start the game early, then so be it, don't think many people will mind with a 11am start time for 3rds and a 2:30 start for the 1s.

Also, 6 points for a game that gets played once a season is too high.
 

westland

Active Member
It is to ensure players are equipped for T20 Cricket if they choose to play Premier Cricket into the future. People will say we have a Tuesday night T20 Competition but that is played by the majority of the 1st XI so this match gives all XI's the opportunity.

I would say 95% of players do not love the format and would rather play a 45 or 80 over match but the reality is, is that it is a form of the game and we need to accept it and move on. Must be taken seriously when there are 6 points up for grabs.
If the aim is to ensure players are equipped for T20 at Premier, why are the majority of the contestants 1st XI players?
The Pathway system long ago took over from the subbies as being the recruitment path for players aiming to play Premier Cricket. Without exception, all subbies players and club officials I have spoken to are scathingly critical of T20 being played for premiership points at this level. It does not need to be accepted at this level if the majority are dead against it being played for premiership points. It is not as if the subbies are now beholden to the wishes of other bodies now it no longer enjoys a CV dividend.
 

Young Willi Lad

Active Member
Totally agree with this post but if you want the buy in from the players, the competition needs to ensure the round itself is taken seriously.

You can't play a game for 6 points when you bowl 5 overs from each end. If that means you start the game early, then so be it, don't think many people will mind with a 11am start time for 3rds and a 2:30 start for the 1s.

Also, 6 points for a game that gets played once a season is too high.
Agree, not sure the need for five overs at each end.
 

nancy

Member
5 overs from each end is no big deal. It hardly affects the game at all.
46 players can be selected this round and 20/20 means a large % of them will not get a bat and some of them will not get a bat or a bowl.
This is bad for cricket and for player participation and enjoyment.
The round should be a normal 1 day game
You cannot start the 3rds at 11.00 as heaps of junior players play in clubs 3rds. 12.30 will be a push for many.
 
Some big scores on the weekend - team and individuals!

Ivanhoe 6/337
Willy 304
Preston 302
Caulfield 338 - Thorne another ton - 161*
And a bat from Endeavour made 160
 
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Piston Broke

Active Member
Years ago if you made 200 day on day one you were almost home,that all changed when grounds were re-grassed and now run like lightning,add to that the 3 metre rule and 300 is almost par on a lot of grounds.
 

westland

Active Member
Years ago if you made 200 day on day one you were almost home,that all changed when grounds were re-grassed and now run like lightning,add to that the 3 metre rule and 300 is almost par on a lot of grounds.
The combination of the 3 metre rule, and a pitch that is situated on the extremity of the table, gives rise to a very short boundary on one side at a number of grounds. Makes that boundary very hard protect. Even conditions for both sides I suppose, but not ideal for our game IMO.
 
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