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David,

iam having trouble with my fitness through these winter months, i have terrible shoulders, and in the cold they lock up. i need help, wat can i do to make sure they dont lock, n e exercises?
 
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I have to admit injuries are one area I don't know much about.

Is there a physiotherapist in the house?
 
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Well, I am not a physio but I am a Sports Therapist, perhaps I can help!

I am a Strength and Conditioning Practitioner; Conditioning Coach (Biomechanics and Kinematics), Personal Trainer, Level 3 Gym Instructor, Nutritionist, Psychologist as well as Sports Therapist and one of David's little elves :)

I specialise in LTAD and prehabilitation but also work with rehabilitation and sports massage.

Tell me more about this problem:

What part of the shoulder locks; the blades or ball and socket?

At what stage of movement does it lock?

Anything else you think may be relevant.
 
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i dunno kno think it mgiht be the ball and socket (?)

i circle my arms and its clicks then i cant move them much more not past my head anyways

my normal day in winter has of a lot of pain. i wake up in a morning and if i dont do atleast 15 mins of exercises jus on my shoulders then i suffer all day more than usual.

locking consists of anything from lifting up forwards, sideways and any other way. some days its worse.

i did have surgery on my shoulder in question due to the muscle badly tearing it playing cricket. I then used it too soon after surgery and did it again and had to have another op.

ever since my shoulder has been locking up, im not sure if it is the muscle or bone, i think it may be both.

is ther anythin i can do to stop this, in summer it is not too bad, but in winter its very difficult.
 
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i will hav a look. it isn't a tear im sure of it, or atleast it doesnt feel like it, the second time i did it really hurt, i passed out. would it be worth me visiting my local gp?
 
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Possibly. It's the 'click'ing that worries me. Is it both shoulders or just the one?

If the former, it could be one of the 200 different kinds of arthritis. Most probably osteoarthritis, which is degenerative, where the cartilage that protects the bones gets worn away, making joints stiff, painful and creaky!
 
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yes, it clicks and its just in my bowling arm, so the one.

Your bit about stiff, painful and especially creaky is exactly what its like.
 
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Sounds like you have a pretty nasty injury there, you should get it looked at properly. The longer you leave it the worse any damage may be.
 
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Liz Ward said:
Well, I am not a physio but I am a Sports Therapist, perhaps I can help!
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Welcome to Simplycricket, will look forward to seeing your posts in future.
 
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There are many kinds of tears. Do you know if you suffered a labral tear before, specifically a SLAP tear; this stands for Superior Labrum from Anterior to Posterior? [The SLAP tear occurs at the point where the tendon of the biceps muscle inserts on the labrum].

It is really hard for me to help too much without a consultation; I would need to see the movement, listen to the noise and have a feel around to have any good suspicion and then I would need to send you for more tests to be sure.

What is clear, is that this injury is not going to clear up on its own. Though your symptoms are not uncommon, they are not normal. Get yourself checked out and let us know how you get on; a blogg on your rehabilitation perhaps ;)
 
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Liz Ward said:
There are many kinds of tears. Do you know if you suffered a labral tear before, specifically a SLAP tear; this stands for Superior Labrum from Anterior to Posterior? [The SLAP tear occurs at the point where the tendon of the biceps muscle inserts on the labrum].

It is really hard for me to help too much without a consultation; I would need to see the movement, listen to the noise and have a feel around to have any good suspicion and then I would need to send you for more tests to be sure.

What is clear, is that this injury is not going to clear up on its own. Though your symptoms are not uncommon, they are not normal. Get yourself checked out and let us know how you get on; a blogg on your rehabilitation perhaps ;)
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I like your thinking, i hope Murali will, it'd be very interesting indeed.
 
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Liz/David as you may recall on Harrowdrive I had problems with my shoulder, but no-where near as bad as this thankfully and you helped me sort it out. What sort of exercises should I now be doing in order to not repeat last year problems. I'm thinking in terms of using those elastic band things. I seem to recall David said pulling them apart and holding them behind your head for 8 seconds or so rather than do repetitions. What about pull ups on a bar as well?
With the pull ups (If you recommend them) is it better to do repetitions or to hold once you're up there?
Also while you're up there with your chin up to the bar is there any core stability benefits to then bringing your knees up to your chin level? Additionally I know I was diagnosed with double inguinal hernias a few years back which were then fixed and I've had no problems with since, but at the same time the doctors said that I had a small hernia behind my belly button - so should I keep an eye on that if I'm bringing my knees up to my chin whilst doing the pull ups?
 
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I think Liz is better qualified than me on this so I will leave her to answer your question directly.

Generalyl speaking chin ups and inverted rows are excellent for shoulder strength and injury prevention.

You can add in the leg raises for core work yes, although it will reduce the overall quality of the exercise and turn it a bit more conditioning based. That's fine to do if that meets your goals. I would make sure someone could do at least 5 unassisted chin ups before adding a leg raise though.

The resistance tube is also good for working the shoulder. The pull aparts you mention should be done as reps of about 15-20 in your warm up. Make sure you are not hunching your shoulders as you do it, feel the shoulder move through it's full range.
 
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Dave, have a look at the link on my reply to Murali Magic dated 10 November, in this thread. The exercises at the end of the article should help.

With respect to the hernias:

Were the inguinal fixed via mesh or stitching?

Do you have a bulge at the point of the umbilical hernia?

Are you under a physiotherapist for rehabilitation?
 
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Liz, it took me ages finding where I'd left this message! So sorry for slow reply. The Inguinals were done using mesh and at the time the bloke who did them said that if I left them to heel properly they'd be better that the actual original body structure that was supposed to be holding it all in! Once the operation was done I didn't do any pull ups or exercise in that region for over a year, possibly longer.

The umbilical hernia as far as I'm aware doesn't bulge or cause any pain and has never done so. When he checked it out he was digging his finger deep into that area and said that it was very minor and unless it developed it wasn't that much of an issue. He said to keep an eye on it.

Hence the reason I'm asking about this prior to undertaking any exercise that my put it that area under strain.

Dave
 
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