Richie
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Oh yes. A good few of those in the know, mostly ex military say this on various podcasts. The Zionists want a Greater Israel with Iran its major goal. Nutenyahu will also try to coax Trump into a ground invasion next.
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Richie
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Consecutive govts over decades have ignored the closure of our oil refineries despite oil still remaining a vital energy source. The Persian Gulf crisis has showed us it was a bad call to close those refineries. Yet Labor has not spoken yet about either reopening them or reconverting them from export to import terminals. WA, specially need to follow the leads of Chris Minns and reopen the refineries and Qlds David Crisafulli to again drill for oil. Wake up Albo these refineries are needed as a matter of urgency. How embarrassing is it to go cap in hand to Asian countries that refine oil when we should be self sufficient and if anything have other come to us..
Grier
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Being self sufficient with Oil in the current global markets has become increasingly important for us.
Likewise, other industries too.
Setting aside enough LPG for domestic needs and putting an export tax on the rest would be fair despite vested interests whining about it.
Our big LPG market also does give us good leverage in acquiring Oil supplies.
Richie
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Sorry I mislead you guys. Meant to say reconverting them from their present import terminals to export terminals.
Richie
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Penny Wong condemns Israeli minister after taunting video emerges
Foreign Minister Penny Wong has led a chorus of condemnation towards a far-right Israeli minister after he ...
www.9news.com.au
Scum of the earth who will soon be given the punishment they and their war criminal masters deserve.
Grier
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Trump speaking about Xi Xi is my guess?
Grier
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Those illegal Israeli pirates on the Mediterranean sea are an assault to common decency, especially the way some tool bellowed at the the bound and kneeling captives.Penny Wong condemns Israeli minister after taunting video emerges
Foreign Minister Penny Wong has led a chorus of condemnation towards a far-right Israeli minister after he ...
Scum of the earth who will soon be given the punishment they and their war criminal masters deserve.
Their are reports of Israeli jailers torturing and raping their many prisoners. They are NOT God's chosen people surely. They flap their gums trying to justify the unjustifiable. Their words ring hollow.
Good on my old Ireland and other nations not participating in the European Song Contest as israel was allowed to compete!
Bravo to those brave souls trying to bring aid to the devastation in Gaza, even just a symbolic gesture, a Genocide by a Fascist regime with an unconsiable War Criminal at its helm currently coaching a blithering imbecile to help wage another war with negative global ramifications.
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Richie
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Yes can see why the sycophant would praise Xi. But no he is speaking of the murdering Zionist war criminal.
No the devils. They are losing world support daily and will soon become a pariah state.
Grier
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Here's an inthresting notion I recently heard.
It's called the Thucydides Trap. It describes a situation where a rising power challenges a dominant one, often leading to conflict. This concept comes from ancient Greek historian Thucydides' analysis of the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta. The trap occurs when the dominant power fears losing its status, and both sides become less prepared for diplomacy, making war more likely. Graham Allison coined the term in 2015 to describe this dynamic.
I reckon and heard that's the situation with China and the US.
Crikey, the World is changing fast. Changing much faster with the bumbling Trump factor. Nations are looking more to China as a more stable and reliable partner. Taiwan
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Us too and others... , still, we still need to become more self reliant with the way the Earth
is currently turning.
It's called the Thucydides Trap. It describes a situation where a rising power challenges a dominant one, often leading to conflict. This concept comes from ancient Greek historian Thucydides' analysis of the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta. The trap occurs when the dominant power fears losing its status, and both sides become less prepared for diplomacy, making war more likely. Graham Allison coined the term in 2015 to describe this dynamic.
I reckon and heard that's the situation with China and the US.
Crikey, the World is changing fast. Changing much faster with the bumbling Trump factor. Nations are looking more to China as a more stable and reliable partner. Taiwan
?Us too and others... , still, we still need to become more self reliant with the way the Earth
is currently turning.
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Richie
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Spot on Terry.Us too and others... , still, we still need to become more self reliant with the way the Earth
Grier
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Australians returning home from detention in Israel say they were abused, tortured and demeaned while in custody and have asked to meet the prime minister, Anthony Albanese.
Nine of the 11 Australians who joined more than 400 people from around the world on an aid flotilla toGaza returned home on Monday, where they were met with hundreds of supporters after landing at Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane airports.
Here's the link to our Guardian News for the article:
www.theguardian.com
Thuggish and illegal bullshite!
If in international waters, I wonder if a boat can legally use weapons to repel pirates, especially attempts to board?
Well done to all who participated in the peaceful GAZA Aid Floatilla. It's a decent and worthwhile endeavour.
They kept alive the issue of Genocide still happening to the Palestinians in Gaza, and all over their homelands stolen incrementally over many decades, intentionally and cruely with slippery words and ... powerful and wealthy friends.
Beatings, torture, debasement, sexual abuse, rapes, ... murders ... seems common in the IDF towards Palestinian prisoners, and it seems those Jewish thugs could barely restrain themselves with their illegally kidnapped Flotilla of international boats and civilians, in international waters.
The media coverage of again Israel's vile behaviour towards altruistic and compassionate global citizens further stains its global image, with all that might entail. ... .
So many weasel word excuses eventually wear thin and become transparent, and almost as boring
as USADTrumps screenside chats..
Especially when Netanyahu is a declared War Criminal.
Nine of the 11 Australians who joined more than 400 people from around the world on an aid flotilla toGaza returned home on Monday, where they were met with hundreds of supporters after landing at Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane airports.
Here's the link to our Guardian News for the article:
Australian flotilla activists arrive home alleging sexual assault and beatings in Israeli detention
Activists detained by Israel after attempting to deliver aid to Gaza as part of Global Sumud Flotilla arrive in Australia
www.theguardian.com
Thuggish and illegal bullshite!
If in international waters, I wonder if a boat can legally use weapons to repel pirates, especially attempts to board?
Well done to all who participated in the peaceful GAZA Aid Floatilla. It's a decent and worthwhile endeavour.
They kept alive the issue of Genocide still happening to the Palestinians in Gaza, and all over their homelands stolen incrementally over many decades, intentionally and cruely with slippery words and ... powerful and wealthy friends.
Beatings, torture, debasement, sexual abuse, rapes, ... murders ... seems common in the IDF towards Palestinian prisoners, and it seems those Jewish thugs could barely restrain themselves with their illegally kidnapped Flotilla of international boats and civilians, in international waters.
The media coverage of again Israel's vile behaviour towards altruistic and compassionate global citizens further stains its global image, with all that might entail. ... .
So many weasel word excuses eventually wear thin and become transparent, and almost as boring
as USADTrumps screenside chats..Especially when Netanyahu is a declared War Criminal.
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Richie
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They are pacifists mate, unlike the scum of the earth that use bullying, intimidation, oppression and genocide against weaker opposition. Their time will come and it wont be pretty as there are plenty of people that will seek vengeance for the way they have been treated over decades..
Grier
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From the Guardian:
The UN has added Israel and Russia to a blacklist for sexual violence in conflict, citing abuse by security forces, including the rape of male detainees by security forces of governments which have blocked UN investigators.
The UN verified sexual abuse of 31 Palestinian men, women and children from the Gaza Strip and the occupied West Bank between 2023 and 2025. Israeli attacks included repeated gang-rapes and the use of sexual violence as a form of torture, the report said.
UN adds Israel and Russia to blacklist for sexual violence in conflict - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/29/un-israel-russia-blacklist-sexual-violence-conflict?CMP=share_btn_url
Other violations included rape with objects, attempted rape, attacks on genitals, targeted shooting of genitals, touching of breasts and genitals, forced nudity and threats of rape.
These cases were “indicative of incidents and patterns” rather than a comprehensive summary of conflict-related sexual violence by Israelis, because of restrictions on UN investigators.
Israel barred UN experts from detention centres, blocked travel to Gaza, and has threatened Palestinian detainees if they report abuse after their release.
Russia also obstructed investigations into “systemic” sexual violence against Ukrainians, barring monitors from accessing prisoners of war and civilians in detention, the UN said.
Israel and Russia both deny the use of sexual violence by their military. Israel’s ambassador to the UN, Danny Danon, said the country had cut ties with the UN secretary general, António Guterres, in response to the blacklisting.
The UN has added Israel and Russia to a blacklist for sexual violence in conflict, citing abuse by security forces, including the rape of male detainees by security forces of governments which have blocked UN investigators.
The UN verified sexual abuse of 31 Palestinian men, women and children from the Gaza Strip and the occupied West Bank between 2023 and 2025. Israeli attacks included repeated gang-rapes and the use of sexual violence as a form of torture, the report said.
UN adds Israel and Russia to blacklist for sexual violence in conflict - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/29/un-israel-russia-blacklist-sexual-violence-conflict?CMP=share_btn_url
Other violations included rape with objects, attempted rape, attacks on genitals, targeted shooting of genitals, touching of breasts and genitals, forced nudity and threats of rape.
These cases were “indicative of incidents and patterns” rather than a comprehensive summary of conflict-related sexual violence by Israelis, because of restrictions on UN investigators.
Israel barred UN experts from detention centres, blocked travel to Gaza, and has threatened Palestinian detainees if they report abuse after their release.
Russia also obstructed investigations into “systemic” sexual violence against Ukrainians, barring monitors from accessing prisoners of war and civilians in detention, the UN said.
Israel and Russia both deny the use of sexual violence by their military. Israel’s ambassador to the UN, Danny Danon, said the country had cut ties with the UN secretary general, António Guterres, in response to the blacklisting.
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