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lmao, well played New Zealand.

If there is a team in world sport that has a bigger history of choking than the South African cricket team I've yet to see them. Losing every knock-out match they've ever played in at a World Cup plus the DL calculation stuff up in 2003, the monkey on the back has turned into a gorilla. Interesting I think NZ had previously lost all 4 of their knock-out games so someone had to break the jinx but unlike SA they have never really been considered one of the top chances.

Ljp86 said:
How so? He's been out of form for at least a year and has shown that he is struggling at the elite level. One innings won't change that.
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If Ponting wants to go on he should really retire from ODIs and probably drop down the order in Test matches.
 
England will probably win this. They have enough self-belief instilled within them these days to pull almost anything off.

Unlike the Aussies.
 
disappointed but so are we all. India did well but not enough runs.
The greatest sadness is that Ponting seems to be digging in instead of accepting that the time is here.
we can not all have the fairy tale exit.
 
nairbe said:
disappointed but so are we all. India did well but not enough runs.
The greatest sadness is that Ponting seems to be digging in instead of accepting that the time is here.
we can not all have the fairy tale exit.
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We have to wait to see if the selectors have any spine at all. Most teams in the series were willing to drop players who weren't performing but the Aussie pig-headedness over Cam White showed that, as usual, the selectors aren't willing to do their job.

I am hoping against hope that they send a few different faces to Bangladesh and let Clarke captain the team.
 
Beeswax said:
England will probably win this. They have enough self-belief instilled within them these days to pull almost anything off.

Unlike the Aussies.
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Glad I was wrong here. Living in the UK means that I really didn't want them to get hold of the World Cup along with the Ashes and the T20. The press and commentators would have been unbearable.
 
Wow, looks Sri lanka did it easy not even losing a wicket chasing the Poms total. It's going to be absolutely insane on Wednesday, probably the equivalent of World War 3.. Hopefully the losing supporters don't act like ****ing idiots. Will be going for New Zealand on Tuesday against Sri Lanka but would also like SL to go right through and win the final, they would be very deserving champions, anybody but India.
 
Kram81 said:
Wow, looks Sri lanka did it easy not even losing a wicket chasing the Poms total. It's going to be absolutely insane on Wednesday, probably the equivalent of World War 3.. Hopefully the losing supporters don't act like ****ing idiots. Will be going for New Zealand on Tuesday against Sri Lanka but would also like SL to go right through and win the final, they would be very deserving champions, anybody but India.
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Why not India, they are a wonderful team. Sure a few of their players are total morons but i can name a few morons in every great team of the past 40 years. They also suffer from a cricket board totally bathing in their own self importance but this also seems to be a common problem.

I doubt that the selectors will make any bold moves on the team as the selectors are the problem. When will they get rid of Hildich?
 
Pakistan has never beaten India in a World Cup match and its a historical fact. But history is little vlaue to a team who is eager to show what it is capable of. The fire within the Pakistan team will be more as they have gone through too many controversies in the recent past. In my opinion Pakistan (the iunderdog) will beat india in the super Semi final of the World Cup.

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Kram81 said:
lmao, well played New Zealand.

If there is a team in world sport that has a bigger history of choking than the South African cricket team I've yet to see them. Losing every knock-out match they've ever played in at a World Cup plus the DL calculation stuff up in 2003, the monkey on the back has turned into a gorilla. Interesting I think NZ had previously lost all 4 of their knock-out games so someone had to break the jinx but unlike SA they have never really been considered one of the top chances.
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@Kram81 mate I could not have said that better. The wicket was the same for both sides and South Africa never got off the bus from the Hotel. With regards to bigger chokers I would like to point you to the All Black rugby union side and the English soccer / football team, they however dont come close to the Proteas.

In all honesty I must admit I was not shocked when the last wicket fell on Friday night. I for one has made peace with the fact that we will always fill the numbers, be favourites to win it all and then find a way to lose the match..

I however think there are a few things that needs to be said:
Graeme Smith's moving on from the captaincy from the shorter formats tells me all is not well. Yes, I have read and heard first hand of the clicque but he has been tasked with things that a captain should not be.I got more respect for his honest answers at the most match press conference, he did not sugar coat it but told it as it is.

South African needs a new unbiased coach .. no connections to the past so automatically goes Gary Kirsten (who has become the director of cricket at the Mumbai Indians), Vincent Barnes (current assistant coach) and Duncan Fletcher. I for one hope Stephen Fleming gets the nod .. he might be the answer.

The world cup side from all the various years all struggled with 2 concepts .. "winning the pressure games" and "getting in front of the required rate". Note the way the Sri Lankans went after the opening salvo from the English .. you build the momentum so that your middle order batsmen dont have to deal with more than a run a ball.

It pains me to say it but the Gorilla is going to be have to slayed soon or the psychological effect will be seen for many more generations.
 
I assume Botha is taking over the Captaincy?

As much as I enjoyed seeing the brain-melts from South Africa in the past this time enough was enough and I actually wanted to see them do well for a change, they have some top quality players and are a very good side to watch. Would've been going for them if they were playing someone other than Australia or NZ.
 
The New Zealand vs South Africa game was a no brainer. South Africa will always choke and New Zealand will always get to the semi finals. That's how it works.

Now it's Sri Lanka vs New Zealand and the Kiwis aren't going as well, but still being competitive. Malinga is bowling very well.

Although I guess you never really expect to get much against the best bowling line up in the world. I would probably almost call those three spinners the best three in the world in ODIs.
 
New Zealand out for 217... have to think Sri Lanka have this one in the bag.

Who writes Murali's scripts? Got a wicket with his last ever ball in Sri Lanka in both Tests and ODIs now. Going to miss the out and out fun he brings to the game.

Also got to love Mendis's leg break/leg cutter/Carrom ball/whatever you want to call it. Flicks it out the front of the hand and it turns as well as any leg spinner. Great ball to watch, always amazes me.
 
hattrick said:
@Kram81 mate I could not have said that better. The wicket was the same for both sides and South Africa never got off the bus from the Hotel. With regards to bigger chokers I would like to point you to the All Black rugby union side and the English soccer / football team, they however dont come close to the Proteas.

In all honesty I must admit I was not shocked when the last wicket fell on Friday night. I for one has made peace with the fact that we will always fill the numbers, be favourites to win it all and then find a way to lose the match..

I however think there are a few things that needs to be said:
Graeme Smith's moving on from the captaincy from the shorter formats tells me all is not well. Yes, I have read and heard first hand of the clicque but he has been tasked with things that a captain should not be.I got more respect for his honest answers at the most match press conference, he did not sugar coat it but told it as it is.

South African needs a new unbiased coach .. no connections to the past so automatically goes Gary Kirsten (who has become the director of cricket at the Mumbai Indians), Vincent Barnes (current assistant coach) and Duncan Fletcher. I for one hope Stephen Fleming gets the nod .. he might be the answer.

The world cup side from all the various years all struggled with 2 concepts .. "winning the pressure games" and "getting in front of the required rate". Note the way the Sri Lankans went after the opening salvo from the English .. you build the momentum so that your middle order batsmen dont have to deal with more than a run a ball.

It pains me to say it but the Gorilla is going to be have to slayed soon or the psychological effect will be seen for many more generations.
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The English football team don't choke.You have to be good enough to win things to choke. Not being good enough or talented enough isn't the same as choking. I thought the Saffers would go all the way this time, I really did.
 
Well unlike England at least New Zealand put up a fight against Sri Lanka, another 30 or so runs would've made things interesting.
 
So it's an all sub-continental flavour to the World Cup final this year. The sponsors would be loving that...

Now it's India v Pakistan. This can only be good...

I can't make a decision. If I were a betting man I would be suffering from a massive headache right about now.

The resident gambler at work is tipping the Pakistanis, and he's picked pretty much everybody this Cup so I'll go by that and say they'll win it.
 
Shewag of to a flying start, Pakistan have to reel this in and quickly.

*and that will do it, Sehwag out LBW to Wahab and wastes a referral, great decision Simon Taufel.
 
Tendulkar gets 2 lucky breaks, LBW reversed and a near stumping, lord knows how that ball was supposed to be not even clipping the stumps..

And that's 3, dropped off a fairly straightforward chance.
 
Kram81 said:
Tendulkar gets 2 lucky breaks, LBW reversed and a near stumping, lord knows how that ball was supposed to be not even clipping the stumps..

And that's 3, dropped off a fairly straightforward chance.
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Lucky man he is.

Gambhir is looking pretty good, working it around well. What's your prediction on this game Kram?
 
You would have to think India will pretty tough to beat from here, 1 for 110 in quick time is a great platform with their best player getting 3 lives. Still a long way to go though hopefully there are some twists and it doesn't turn out to be a fizzer.

Isn't the usually reliable Gul having a shocker? Nerves must be getting to him.

*edit* well that helps, Gambhir gone stumped off Hafeez.
 
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