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Discussion in 'Spin Bowling' started by someblokecalleddave, Apr 5, 2010.

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  1. AngryRanga

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    Quick was definitely the wrong word. I'm bowling flat and struggling to spin the ball up automatically, so I was considering giving that drill a whirl.
     
  2. SLA

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    The key is topspin. If you can get plenty of topspin on the ball but still keep it full and at a decent pace, you will trouble most batsmen.

    The problem a lot of spinners have is that when they try to get that topspin and dip, they start bowling a) slower or b) shorter or c) slower and shorter.

    Another thing I notice is that spinners routinely confuse "pitch it up" with "toss it up". Lad is bowling at a good pace but far too short, so I say "try to pitch it right up at the batsman's feet". He now starts lobbing the ball up in the air. Now he is bowling a good length, but far too slow.
     
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  3. boogiespinner

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    I would guess possible, but I think in order to swing away it would need to be bowled at a fair pace for a leg break and preferably close to topspin.

    Alternatively, away drift might be achieved by having the axis of rotation tilted back, so there is a simple magnus effect operating towards the off until the ball is descending to the same degree. It is quite possible to do this and I suspect I have achieved this effect myself whereas I do not claim to have ever drifted the ball in significantly.
     
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    This is actually my video, and personally I felt like it improved my flight and also the areas I was bowling. I bowled more pitched up and flighted balls more frequently. The odd flat dragged down ball does come out but it happens with every wrist spinner
     
  5. someblokecalleddave

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    The string version hung across the wicket is a clearer and more tangible objective, I think a lot of kids would look at this if they're new to the art and not quite grasp the objective. Whereas something strung across the wicket above eye-level close enough to the batsman in order to force the bowler to get top-spin to achieve the objective might be a far better example?
     
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    someblokecalleddave Well-Known Member

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    Yep that is, that's a good Grimmett picture on the link that I've not seen before though.
     
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    Shane Warne master class - I never saw this one before. Shows you the grip and release nicely.

     
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    Have a look at this. A bloke on Youtube 'Parbs88' I think he's called says that my feet don't align in relation to where my back foot lands, is the 'over-rotation' and the slight falling away thing I do as I go into the follow-through that he's on about?
     
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    Dave, that video is nearly 4 years old. Post something a bit more recent if you want a more reliable comment. As for what Parbs88 was saying, watch where your back foot lands and then where your front foot lands (helpfully often near the white line on the tarmac), convention says you 'shouldn't' be that crossed over ie why is your left leg way outside where your right leg landed in relation to your direction of travel (towards the batter)?
     
  12. someblokecalleddave

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    Cheers Tony, yeah I can see what you and Parbs means now. I did video a couple of deliveries indoors last weekend, I was more worried about the level of intensity with that one and the fact that the leg coming through looked redundant. I'll have a look at it again regarding this over-rotation aspect as well. I am probably at my lowest ebb fitness-wise at the moment, just wondering what I can do to get back on it. I need to ease myself in a bit.
     
  13. Chino#21

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    I don't see any problems with the feet alignment. Warne had more or less the same angle. The only thing that I think is preventing you from adding some extra energy to the ball is that you are perhaps too upright in the action. You have a very measured approach and it's quite rhythmical but it lacks the explosive power that Philpott mentions in his book. In this particular video I think you bowled quite well and you had a good JP Duminy skip thing going.

    Sorry this is the only video that I could find with Duminy bowling with his skippy Harbajhan Singh action. At 3:00 you can see him bowling.
    That sort of action is suited for leg spin as well, since you can generate lots of energy with it. Have you tried being a bit more bent over when bowling? So that your head isn't perfectly upright but more tilted sideways? If not, I suggest you try it just to see if it feels better. When I try to bowl with an upright action I can clearly feel less energy but more calculated control, whereas a more sideways action makes me feel like a human whiplash.
    You should also try transferring all of your momentum forwards, so that you don't lean back in the action.
     
  14. boogiespinner

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    Something a bit different. I've been having a look at softball pitching lately - that's the baseball for girls where they throw underarm... like old-fashioned lobster bowling. Now the girls can throw at 70mph underarm, and the ball is heavier than a cricket ball. And check this guy out, Eddie Feigner, clocked at 104mph!!!

     
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    Something a bit different, a 14yo leg spinner that plays for the Wellington women's team. Here she is helping them to the domestic T20 title:

     
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    I agree with Chino#21, no problems with that and you'll find a lot of leg spinners do it.
     
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    Looks like she has excellent variations. Nice to see that there are so many emerging leg spinners.
     
  19. someblokecalleddave

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    What the hell is that even allowed?
     
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    Superb! I'm a big fan of Women's cricket and to see this girl bowling wrist spin is great. Let's hope she goes through to play for the Kiwis and I get to see her here in the UK some day! Great stuff.
     
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