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Two down, two up are the rules. Chelsea will most likely not go up from the south - I wonder whether they will get relegated like Highett did last year? South A premiers two seasons ago, didn't want to be promoted to South, so they finished in South C1 playing against 3rd XIs.

Heatherton's South C3 (one day) team is still being shown in the fixtures. Perhaps they simply didn't have enough people willing to commit to 2-day cricket? I agree, it would be nice to know... It's interesting that we now have a 14 team South Division, a 7 team South Seconds and an 8 team...

That was my understanding of the situation too. The VTCA seemed quite happy to promote McKinnon into Senior Division, despite being beaten in the semi-final, however did they ever consider contacting the two clubs relegated from South to see whether they wished to play in the higher grade? That...

Yes. With 7 in South and 8 in South A, that makes a grand total of 36 teams playing two day cricket in the South, outside Senior Division. In the good old days South B was another 1st XI grade. I have wondered about South C2 myself - perhaps it is reserved for a two-day competition for 3rd and...

I agree with DStrek15. I like the concept of Senior Division, but only for the 1st XIs, with the North, West, South divisions unaligned, and with the senior division club's 2nds playing in the grade they fit into best, whether that's alongside other clubs 1sts or 4ths. It may take a season or...

So with this option there can be no more than 4 South teams in Senior Division. The first year I played in Senior Division there was a grand total of four Northern clubs, the other eight being South. The VTCA is obviously not expecting the South to become any stronger, if this proposal is to be...

Beaumaris is, of course, a club from the South-East ... and it takes two to tango.

The VTCA web site is reporting this weekend is called off, citing advice from clubs regarding the state of their grounds and wickets.

Dunno. I used to be a strong supporter of 2nd XI cricket, but now think that in the South (at least) it would be better to have the teams move up and down the grades based on their performances, rather then be artificially constrained by having to play 2nds, or 3rds. This means you may get the...

I've been following the 1st XI grades, and understand about McKinnon 2nds playing in South A1. I guess my post was a bit confusing - I was more interested in South A2. Do the VTCA (and/or the clubs) see South A2 as a higher grade than South C1? Will it be Beaumaris 3rds or 4ths in South...

Interesting to see the South A2 fixtures, with McKinnon and Old Mentonians 2nds playing in South A. I was looking to see how things would pan out with only the six 1st XIs playing in that grade. What I found was only five of those six teams are represented in South A2 - as well as McK and OM...

Are you assuming that Chelsea will get a seconds up this season?

Two or three years ago (in South A) it was the two day games first, and then the one day games second. I thought it was dreadful. Seven one day matches in a row, not needing to field for more than 40 overs at a stretch, is not good preparation for finals cricket. All of a sudden you have to...

Both this and the OMCC tweet mentioned previously are moves towards the suggestion, mooted here some time ago, of dropping the 2nd XI grades and simply having every team of every club moving up and down through the grades via promotion and relegation. You may conceivably have a 1st XI playing a...

Bloody good point. In all the hyperbole following his brilliant innings the impression given (certainly on TV) is that he started his career at Richmond.

This is a bit like deja vu to me. I lived and played cricket in the Birmingham area of the UK in the late 1980s. The cricket competition was fragmented, with the Birmingham League at the top, with a bunch of other comps; the one I played in was generally considered to be the best of the rest (at...

Just for interest, in the 1958/59 season the VJCA had Senior Division, and South A/B/C. There were a total of 17 south clubs then: Bentleigh, Black Rock, Brighton, Carnegie, East Malvern, Frankston, Glenhuntly, Hampton, Highett, McKinnon, MHSOB, Middle Park, Moorabbin, Murrumbeena, Ormond...

Checking the ladders from the 2007-08 season, five years ago, the departures from the various 1st XI grades are Maccabi Ajax, MHSOB, Nth Caulfield/Glenhuntly, East Malvern (then playing as East Malvern/Tooronga) and South Yarra. To those we now need to definitely/possibly add Dingley and...

That's a pretty horrible looking list, although the question was "18 clubs in 5 seasons?" The last time my club played against Mordialloc was 05/06. My memory says they won South A, convinced the association that they should not be promoted to Senior A, then won South A again the following...

Agree too. I don't know how the captains make their choices, but when the VTCA introduced the "Team of the Year" each captain was meant to provide their 11 players, listed in batting order. If that's the way it is still done then it might be that Paul Lasky's batting position, as an opening...