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a for effort;365037 said:
Cameron White failed miserably, and went back to perform reasonably-yet-not-exceptionally-well at a lower standard, so he should be given another shot in front of a guy who has received no such opportunity to fail, but has drastically outperformed him in the other forms of international cricket since his debut?
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Yet has failed massively at first class cricket which is usually where they select players from

Oh and you're right, 58 isnt that great, although its alot more than Ferguson could even dream of averaging and he plays his half his games on the greatest batting pitch in the world
 
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Must admit, Cameron White has really impressed me this ODI series. Scored a hundred and now just guided us home with a nerveless 20 odd off a dozen or so balls.

He now appears to have cemented his place in the ODI side - Hussey hasn't had much of a hit this game and thats not his fault, but his place is going to come under some intense pressure.

At test level Cameron White is probably going to need to develop his bowling further to command selection.

Still, a good domestic season with the bat could see him at least put his name into the hat should any specialist batting position come become available.

Still only 26. Great slip fielder.

Can see him becoming a pivotal player come our 2011 WC campaign, if his not already.
 
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eddiesmith;365058 said:
Yet has failed massively at first class cricket which is usually where they select players from

Oh and you're right, 58 isnt that great, although its alot more than Ferguson could even dream of averaging and he plays his half his games on the greatest batting pitch in the world
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I have no idea where this 58 figure came from, so I'm going to assume it was White's FC average last season. This is obviously a higher number than 43, but 15 runs, while a decent gap, is not that huge when the sample set we are talking about is 8 innings versus 16 innings. The smaller the data set the more marked the differences will be, and <10 innings is nowhere near enough to make a decent judgement on a players ability.

I'm not going to say that Cameron White will never play test cricket again, he's only 26 and he most likely will. I'm saying that Callum Ferguson has, in the last several months, done more to be deserving of a test spot than White (Consistent and sustained performance over a long period of time in international cricket, as opposed to a uncharacteristic burst of good form), and if Hussey was to break his leg tomorrow, I think it would be Ferguson who the selectors choose to fill his role.
 
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I'm sick of Michael Hussey
Hes been saying everyone in the team has to be doing their job...and yet from what i can see, he's the only one not doing it.
Surely he has got to take some responsibility for his form at some point.
Tests- Out- Hussey
In- Hughes (put Watson down the order, and Hughes has plenty of time to work on his technique until the next test series)

One Dayers- In- Voges (been a bit unlucky not to have played this series)

I don't think Ferguson is quite ready for test cricket yet. It would be preferable if we got a good look at him against all other teams in the champions trophy, and he gets a good first class season under his belt. I definately think he looks the goods.
 
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Thenextbigbird123;365179 said:
I'm sick of Michael Hussey
Hes been saying everyone in the team has to be doing their job...and yet from what i can see, he's the only one not doing it.
Surely he has got to take some responsibility for his form at some point.
Tests- Out- Hussey
In- Hughes (put Watson down the order, and Hughes has plenty of time to work on his technique until the next test series)

One Dayers- In- Voges (been a bit unlucky not to have played this series)

I don't think Ferguson is quite ready for test cricket yet. It would be preferable if we got a good look at him against all other teams in the champions trophy, and he gets a good first class season under his belt. I definately think he looks the goods.
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Let hughes get the technique right first. As you say plenty of time but no certainty he will be ready. Wouldn't you like to see him scoring runs again and dealing with the short ball a lot better before bringing him back?
 
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hussey has the next tour to get it right, or the next one depending on this west indian problem.

i am just about to give up on him, which is a big statement coming from me, but i cant help but think of ferguson as the exact same as hussey. both extremely good batsman that will average 50+ at the end of their career.

you cant call it yet because hussey has shown some form with a good tour of england averaging approx. 65.
 
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he will have another tour to get it right, yet he's failed in at least the last 5 or so test series... Yep, I think Hussey has haad long enough, time to go and stop costing us matches.
 
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gbatman;365386 said:
he will have another tour to get it right, yet he's failed in at least the last 5 or so test series... Yep, I think Hussey has haad long enough, time to go and stop costing us matches.
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Hang on, deep breath from you here. This is the 4th thread I have read on Mike Hussey and his form. I think that it is more the fact that the bowlers are getting a little smarter and looking at ways to get him out rather than bowling to his strengths all the time.
Flintoff and Harbison just to name a couple of bowlers who have gotten a little smarter, have been able to do their homework on the Aussie Team and have found a lot of weaknesses in our squad.
I have been watching the test matches, haven't been able to catch the ODI matches.
 
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schwab2clarkson;366359 said:
Hang on, deep breath from you here. This is the 4th thread I have read on Mike Hussey and his form. I think that it is more the fact that the bowlers are getting a little smarter and looking at ways to get him out rather than bowling to his strengths all the time.
Flintoff and Harbison just to name a couple of bowlers who have gotten a little smarter, have been able to do their homework on the Aussie Team and have found a lot of weaknesses in our squad.
I have been watching the test matches, haven't been able to catch the ODI matches.
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Harmison didn't do anything to us when he played against us.

Hussey's let it get into his mind, he should go.
 
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breeno;366382 said:
Harmison didn't do anything to us when he played against us.

Hussey's let it get into his mind, he should go.
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Want a bet? He (harmison) did in a tour game and took all of those wickets when we played the English Lions the first time......

Flintoff was the main man in the test series that our guys were scared of.

Hussey's a great team player. If you didn't have him in the team we would be worse off.
 
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schwab2clarkson;366461 said:
Want a bet? He (harmison) did in a tour game and took all of those wickets when we played the English Lions the first time......

Flintoff was the main man in the test series that our guys were scared of.

Hussey's a great team player. If you didn't have him in the team we would be worse off.
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Tour games don't count. When given the chance at Test Level he snuffed it.
 
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schwab2clarkson;366496 said:
Tour games do count, Breeno.
Tour Match: England Lions v Australians at Worcester, Jul 1-4, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | Cricinfo.com
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a for effort;366503 said:
No they don't. Harmison has been a spud at test level since 2005, and to suggest otherwise shows a profound misunderstanding of cricket.
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This.

Tour matches do not count. By the way, why did you link us to that website? It doesn't prove your point in the slightest.
 
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Tour games mean nothing. If harmison can be credited with anything it was proving what many suspected... Hughes is vulnerable to the short ball. Hussey is in massive trouble, can you imagine an average series against the WI thirds?
 
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breeno;366506 said:
This.

Tour matches do not count. By the way, why did you link us to that website? It doesn't prove your point in the slightest.
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I can see where she is coming from
 
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cold case;366525 said:
I can see where she is coming from
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The English bowlers had worked a few of our batsmen out. But to suggest Harmison was one of them is lunacy. He performed well in the tour match, but again when given the chance at test level he fluffed it. It was more the way Harmison bowls which found Hughes out (that tall, cramping style). Flintoff certainly did work our boys out though. Broad also deserves some credit.

I personally don't think Hussey has been worked out, he has just changed the way he's played and then let it get into his mind.
 
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Ok then Breeno. Something for you. How do you think that the teams are selected to play in Test Series matches like The Ashes?

They don't just get picked because of their form here in Australia for domestic games....
 
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schwab2clarkson;366542 said:
Ok then Breeno. Something for you. How do you think that the teams are selected to play in Test Series matches like The Ashes?

They don't just get picked because of their form here in Australia for domestic games....
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Did Ricky Ponting tell you?

They get picked on team balance, and because of their form, if a player has been tearing it up in County Cricket, he will probably get selected if he did well in the Australian summer also.

Hughes would never have been selected and pushed out Hayden if he wasn't in good form, same with Katich. Hussey's been on the slide for way too long and one would only think it won't be long before he is dropped.
 
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