Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

[Chandu]

Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Australia will trash India like little bitches, they are an absolute joke when they have to play away from their home sh#patch

India will be lucky to even draw 1 match . . 4 - Nil is very likely

...Be honest India are woeful on the road.

...India piss me off, soo much talent but always stuff up especially in the big games away from home. True they won the "hit and giggle" World Cup recently which was great but how did they go in the 50 over stuff?
....

bunch more drivel...

INDIA THUMP AUSTRALIA IN THEIR HOME, WIN CB SERIES 2-0

Muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

After my self-imposed and well-reasoned exile from this high-school aged Aussie homerism infested message board, during the entire bitter tour of Australia by India, I predictably get the last laugh. The bitterness during entire tour, especially the "hollow" test "win" claimed by Australia in Sydney has been the worst of them all. But the last laugh and trophy taken home, from Australian soil nonetheless, is all that matters.

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I doubt I shall be posting much on this message board in the future.

 

[Chandu]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

 

[bluebaggers.com]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Singh is a flogger like you blokes.

The Aussies were actually trying to lose the series.

We were in fact absolutely sick of the curry stench!

Back to the Kwik e Mart Boys!

Go India, We Like your places, we hate your faces!

 

[Bluto11]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

love it Chandu!

 

[Ljp86]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

After my self-imposed and well-reasoned exile from this high-school aged Aussie homerism infested message board, during the entire bitter tour of Australia by India, I predictably get the last laugh. The bitterness during entire tour, especially the "hollow" test "win" claimed by Australia in Sydney has been the worst of them all. But the last laugh and trophy taken home, from Australian soil nonetheless, is all that matters.

Poor effort Chandu. As one of the better posters on this board, I expected a lot more from you.

Not all are biased towards Australia. There are some who can have a constructive argument about Australia without their personal bias coming into it.

I doubt I shall be posting much on this message board in the future.

Very disappointing |@

 

[Chandu]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Poor effort Chandu. As one of the better posters on this board, I expected a lot more from you.

Come on now, posting those beautiful pictures full of emotion, that wouldn't be poor effort, would it? I thought that's the good thing about sport, it makes us relate to sporting emotions and talk about it. That's the purpose of a message board, no?

Not all are biased towards Australia. There are some who can have a constructive argument about Australia without their personal bias coming into it.

I wasn't referring to you personally. I was referring to what appear to be majority of posts on the latest incarnation of this message board you're moderating. There are examples of it all over the place for you to see. I quoted some of it at the start of this thread. There is an example right here in this thread couple of posts above yours. There are examples with threads that start like 'Are "we" going to win'; as if it is implicitly assumed what the posters here are supposed to be. Last I checked, there was nothing explicitly written in the TOS of this board that posters here are expected to be exclusively Australian or rooting for Australia. If you want it to be a message board for Aussie fans only, then go ahead and make it explicitly clear in the TOS. I would have no problem with it, and I would know to stay away.

But see, if you aren't personally one of the "we", you just couldn't have a perspective about this, irrespective of whether you're a moderator or not. And I'm carrying no cross on my shoulders when I say that, I'm just telling things as they are.

Very disappointing |@

Well, it's too bad you feel that way. But in fact, I'm quite happy and absolutely euphoric since yesterday's victory. @|

See, if you find what I'm saying disappointing, as a mod you could've seen it coming before; and not after the fact. On surface, I sensed that this board had started stagnating a bit for a year - both in terms of number of posts and diversity of poster base. I had mentioned it somewhere over here in the past. On top of that, number of newer posters appeared to be making gross generalisations about who other posters are. If you find my stance disapponting, as a mod you could've done something about it. Maybe like reminding others not to make assumptions about everyone else here. I'm not saying I'm personally offended by such generalisations. I'm mature enough to not be a baby about little things like that. It's just that I would rather not bother meddling in coversations in which a dissenting voice would be thought of as an intruder.

I'm not putting any personal blame on you in any way. I'm just pointing out to you that there are 2 sides to every story. It's not totally unreasonable on my part about why I felt this way. If you want a message board without much dissenting voice, where most of talk ends up sounding like inbred opinions, more power to you! It doesn't disappoint me staying away from it, though.

 

[rhb88]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Last Time i checked we were still ranked No.1 in both Test and One Day....

And also last time i checked we beat you in india last time we played u there!!

Seems the scores are level... Not like it matters, we've lost 2 home series in the past 2 years... oh well.... we've only won the last 400 before that!

 

[Chandu]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Last Time i checked we were still ranked No.1 in both Test and One Day....

Australia are a bloody good cricket team, it's crystal clear for the whole world to see. Purely from sport perspective, that hasn't been in dispute much. I don't think majority of population in India is stupid not to know that.

What has been in dispute is whether they're really a good team from sportsmanship perspective. This feeling is especially true in India and bunch of other places now. There was more than just sport involved during those emotional celebrations. Beating Australia has now taken a new dimension just beyond sport.

West Indies team of late 1970s - early 1980s was one of the best ever to play cricket (the one led by Clive Llyod). In my opinion, it was even better than the best Australian team current era has produced. (You may disagree with my opinion, and you could be fully entitled to such disagreement. But it's my opinion, and I have data to back it up.) Anyway, that West Indian team was never, ever, not even once scrutinized about any poor sportsmanship. That West Indies team won tons and tons of fans all over the world. It took more than just trophies won to endear a team like that in the world. I don't believe any Australian team of current era has come even close to that West Indies team in terms of endearing themselves world over.

I'm not even claiming anything about the Indian team anywhere in this post. I don't think Indian team and its players are beyond criticism. They've problems of their own. I've criticised them many times in the past, even on this message board itself. You can look up my post history, I don't need to make things up. But that's not the point. The point is that, sporting relationship between Australia and India has become very bitter after this tour. And they have little to do with the sport itself. I don't have a whole lot of Australian perspective. But from Indian perspective, there were justified reasons for the perception of this bitterness. It will take a lot of effort in the future to repair the ill feelings.

 

[Ljp86]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Come on now, posting those beautiful pictures full of emotion, that wouldn't be poor effort, would it? I thought that's the good thing about sport, it makes us relate to sporting emotions and talk about it. That's the purpose of a message board, no?

Yes it is. But it also comes across as gloating, something which I didn't think you would do. I know myself and a number of other posters wouldn't be posting such pictures if the result have have been reversed.

I have no problem with what you've done, I just don't see the point of needing to throw it back in everyone's faces. This thread is only going to provoke other Australians into saying something and that will no doubt turn you away from BigCricket even further.

I wasn't referring to you personally. I was referring to what appear to be majority of posts on the latest incarnation of this message board you're moderating. There are examples of it all over the place for you to see. I quoted some of it at the start of this thread. There is an example right here in this thread couple of posts above yours. There are examples with threads that start like 'Are "we" going to win'; as if it is implicitly assumed what the posters here are supposed to be. Last I checked, there was nothing explicitly written in the TOS of this board that posters here are expected to be exclusively Australian or rooting for Australia. If you want it to be a message board for Aussie fans only, then go ahead and make it explicitly clear in the TOS. I would have no problem with it, and I would know to stay away.

But see, if you aren't personally one of the "we", you just couldn't have a perspective about this, irrespective of whether you're a moderator or not. And I'm carrying no cross on my shoulders when I say that, I'm just telling things as they are.

This site is not an "Aussies only" one. The reason that there are so many Australian posters is because this site was marketed at an Australian Football League site (i.e BigFooty.com) in order to quickly obtain members and create discussion. The first type of promotion of BigCricket was done at BigFooty. com and then subsequently at all the other "BIG" sites after BF. From there the aim was to market the site at cricket lovers in general and create a diverse amount of members from different countries around the world in order to create discussion on a wide range of topics.

The amount of international members we gained made this aim moderately successful but unfortunately not many of those posters have bothered to stay around long term. In fact, many of them don't post on here anymore or have very little interest in this site.

I think you're perhaps taking the comments made by others a little too seriously. Most Australians are pretty patriotic and will always want their team to win however some are capable of unbiased, constructive discussion. Some of the comments made may have been posted in order to get a reaction from you which has proven successful.

Well, it's too bad you feel that way. But in fact, I'm quite happy and absolutely euphoric since yesterday's victory. @|

See, if you find what I'm saying disappointing, as a mod you could've seen it coming before; and not after the fact. On surface, I sensed that this board had started stagnating a bit for a year - both in terms of number of posts and diversity of poster base. I had mentioned it somewhere over here in the past. On top of that, number of newer posters appeared to be making gross generalisations about who other posters are. If you find my stance disapponting, as a mod you could've done something about it. Maybe like reminding others not to make assumptions about everyone else here. I'm not saying I'm personally offended by such generalisations. I'm mature enough to not be a baby about little things like that. It's just that I would rather not bother meddling in coversations in which a dissenting voice would be thought of as an intruder.

I am finding what you're saying disappointing. The result is also disppointing as I would have liked Australia to win but that is not what we is being discussed right now.

Myself and some of the other mods have tried valiantly for the last year to bring more posters to the site and to increase the amount of posts on this forum. Unfortunately, our efforts have fallen on deaf ears and we haven't received much support at all and ultimately the site has suffered as a result.

Believe me mate, I have tried pretty damn hard.

I'm not putting any personal blame on you in any way. I'm just pointing out to you that there are 2 sides to every story. It's not totally unreasonable on my part about why I felt this way. If you want a message board without much dissenting voice, where most of talk ends up sounding like inbred opinions, more power to you! It doesn't disappoint me staying away from it, though.

I can't do much about the abundance of Australian posters, that is out of my control. I actually expected you to be a frequent poster during the Indian tour of Australia considering that India is your team that you support. But alas, you weren't here and there was no other perspective on this series. There's not much I can do about which teams our members go for, I can't force people to support another team. It's also not my fault that the local cricket board has taken off and has become the site's most popular board where the majority of posters are indeed Australian. I really can't do anything about that either.

I don't want a site where there is no dissenting voice, I would like this site to be one of the best cricket forums going around but it will be a long, long time before or if that ever happens. If your post is in part referring to Timmyj51, well he was a complete tool who has now no longer a part of this site. His threads and posts were removed from the boards for a reason, mainly because they were complete bull********, not to mention the fact that he was a racist with the majority of his contributions being utter rubbish. You, I and many others knew that. I believe you were one posters who was vehemently against him being here.

Anyway, I know I have tried to make BigCricket a better place and I will still be disappointed should you choose to leave.

 

[Chandu]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

I can't do much about the abundance of Australian posters, that is out of my control. I actually expected you to be a frequent poster during the Indian tour of Australia considering that India is your team that you support. But alas, you weren't here and there was no other perspective on this series. There's not much I can do about which teams our members go for, I can't force people to support another team. It's also not my fault that the local cricket board has taken off and has become the site's most popular board where the majority of posters are indeed Australian. I really can't do anything about that either.

I didn't expect you or any other mods to be able to control that. The reason I stayed away during the Australia-India series was I thought I would be talking to myself, lost in an Aussie pub and provoke a fight with anything I said. The reason for starting this thread, throwing it in everyone's face was kind of like a release of frustration of volcanic proportions - both about losing voice on the message board, as well as all kinds of bitterness that developed between Australia and India cricket wise over this long tour.

About increasing and diversifying the poster base, I tried in vain on my own. I contacted cricinfo.com when they were taken over by ESPN, informing about this site. I even advertised about this forum on ESPN's cricket message board. But I didn't see much success.

If your post is in part referring to Timmyj51, well he was a complete tool who has now no longer a part of this site. His threads and posts were removed from the boards for a reason, mainly because they were complete bull********, not to mention the fact that he was a racist with the majority of his contributions being utter rubbish. You, I and many others knew that. I believe you were one posters who was vehemently against him being here.

I wasn't talking about Timmy, he's kind of unrelated to my thoughts. I don't think Timmy ever liked Australia anyway. He in fact hates everything about Australian cricket, not that that necessarily endears me to him. Timmy is a lunatic of the highest order. The funny thing about him is that, in fact he says a number of things which I agree with. Not the ones about baseball. But about the ones talking about progress for cricket and future for cricket as an international sport in general, role of Twenty20 for progress of cricket. However, he cannot articulate anything he wants to say properly, because his brain is warped. And he is a racist to the core. His racism is of a juvenile category, which is even beyond offensive. But anyway, Timmy is not the reason I wanted to stay away from this site lately. Maybe that was true a year ago, but he was hardly in my thoughts recently.

Anyway, I know I have tried to make BigCricket a better place and I will still be disappointed should you choose to leave.

I didn't necessarily say I would leave. I just said, I doubt I would be posting much here much. And the reason for that was as stated before - I could see little difference between this board and an Australian local board. Much like you wouldn't venture into some unknown neighborhood in Hong Kong for fear of getting into confrontation, I felt better to not meddle in between provincial conversations. I guess I will still continue to lurk around, but just won't have too much to say.

 

[Kram81]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Meh . . Commonwealth Bank Trophy. Bloody England swept that last year FFS.

I'd rather this anyday

How did India go in the big one again? Oh they were unlicky that's right, knocked out by the powerhouse cricketing giants that are Bangledesh. They didn't choke (again?)

And I suppose the Australians still have the Border-Gavaskar trophy as well what a shame

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e44xB6-hJDg

LMAO

 

[Kram81]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

. The bitterness during entire tour, especially the "hollow" test "win" claimed by Australia in Sydney has been the worst of them all. But the last laugh and trophy taken home, from Australian soil nonetheless, is all that matters.


I doubt I shall be posting much on this message board in the future.

Mate FFS, what is it with India? Just accept that you lost to a better team on the day. Maybe if your guys stopped blaming umpires, crying to the ICC, making excuses and concentrated on the game they would do a bit better under pressure. Saying that the tremendous win by Australia against all odds is disgraceful and poor sportsmanship and you (at least hopefully) know it.

I doubt I shall be posting much on this message board in the future.

Predictably wont get an answer from a downhill skier like Chandu here, he will run and hide like a coward as is the Indian way of life/cricket.

 

[Ljp86]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

I didn't expect you or any other mods to be able to control that. The reason I stayed away during the Australia-India series was I thought I would be talking to myself, lost in an Aussie pub and provoke a fight with anything I said.

There have been posters that have followed this series since it started so it's not as if you would have been by yourself. An alternative opinion would have been welcomes since we don't have any other frequent posters who follow India.

You shouldn't be scared to start a conversation here, this site is here to hear opinions from all of BigCricket's members and discussion on the series would have been welcomed.

The reason for starting this thread, throwing it in everyone's face was kind of like a release of frustration of volcanic proportions - both about losing voice on the message board, as well as all kinds of bitterness that developed between Australia and India cricket wise over this long tour.

I just think that this thread hasn't achieved a whole lot. Already there's been posts that are just a reaction or a retaliation to this thread. Perhaps if you had have been here for the series, a thread about India's victory (not as extensive as this one) may have been better received.

About increasing and diversifying the poster base, I tried in vain on my own. I contacted cricinfo.com when they were taken over by ESPN, informing about this site. I even advertised about this forum on ESPN's cricket message board. But I didn't see much success.

Did cricinfo.com reply?

I wasn't talking about Timmy, he's kind of unrelated to my thoughts. I don't think Timmy ever liked Australia anyway. He in fact hates everything about Australian cricket, not that that necessarily endears me to him. Timmy is a lunatic of the highest order. The funny thing about him is that, in fact he says a number of things which I agree with. Not the ones about baseball. But about the ones talking about progress for cricket and future for cricket as an international sport in general, role of Twenty20 for progress of cricket. However, he cannot articulate anything he wants to say properly, because his brain is warped. And he is a racist to the core. His racism is of a juvenile category, which is even beyond offensive. But anyway, Timmy is not the reason I wanted to stay away from this site lately. Maybe that was true a year ago, but he was hardly in my thoughts recently.

Good to know, glad that's cleared up.

I didn't necessarily say I would leave. I just said, I doubt I would be posting much here much. And the reason for that was as stated before - I could see little difference between this board and an Australian local board. Much like you wouldn't venture into some unknown neighborhood in Hong Kong for fear of getting into confrontation, I felt better to not meddle in between provincial conversations. I guess I will still continue to lurk around, but just won't have too much to say.

That's fair enough. However, you will always be welcome here.

 

[schwab2clarkson]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Poor effort Chandu. As one of the better posters on this board, I expected a lot more from you.

Not all are biased towards Australia. There are some who can have a constructive argument about Australia without their personal bias coming into it.



Very disappointing |@

Spot on Ljp86.

Chandu,

I know you support India but that was way over the top.

 

[Chandu]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Did cricinfo.com reply?

Nope, never heard back from them. Neither from them, nor the ESPN cricket guys, whom I had contacted separately.

You shouldn't be scared to start a conversation here, this site is here to hear opinions from all of BigCricket's members and discussion on the series would have been welcomed.

I don't think "scared" was the right word, as much as "beginning to lose interest".

One thing I will say though for sure. Right from the first time I've interacted with you, you've always been a class poster. You love your Australia team, as you rightly should. But you're not in the "homerism, juvenile fan" category.

 

[Chandu]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Chandu,

I know you support India but that was way over the top.

Yes, I suppose you're correct.

On the other hand, so were some of Kram's preposterous statements before the tour started. You can look them up, I quoted parts of them when I started this thread. I didn't see anyone here saying those were way over the top then. Traffic doesn't just flow one-way.

 

[Chandu]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

And I suppose the Australians still have the Border-Gavaskar trophy as well what a shame

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e44xB6-hJDg

Yeah, yeah. Whatever you say. You're so always spot on. India indeed weren't lucky enough to draw even a single test. It was all 4-0 whitewash, all of them innings defeats.

What's that? Oops, except that there were these slight problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti9AFeF7zlY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reNqR0YemZg

Looks like it took Punter making the final decisions, raising his finger to declare an opposing team player "out", so he could "win" his Border-Gavaskar trophy. What a fantastic "achievement"!!!! Is that something going to stick in history books, like the Trevor Chappell underarm incident? I'm surprised Punter didn't keep raising his finger during the CB Series, so he could've won his precious little CB trophy which was fully deserved by the Aussies, just like the Border-Gavaskar trophy. I mean, Symonds himself knew he had nicked the ball loud and clear, so they could hear it across the Tasman sea. But there was only one slight problem. Symonds truly deserved lifting the Border-Gavaskar trophy, so it was imperative he stayed on and saw the matter fully resolved.

What a convincing and decisive test series victory that was, just like Dubya beating Al Gore so convincingly in Florida in 2000!!!! Sporting achievements like these are what dreams are made of. And then when things don't start going your way, some Aussie players sure know the winning formula. To go on TV/radio talk shows and start whinging about other team players, instead of focussing on the basics of cricket, that is. I'm sure focussing on things like these, that's what has led to the superb batting form for Punter.

Keep it up Australian cricket, the future sure looks bright, as you've discovered the magic formula for success!!!! @|

....run and hide like a coward as is the Indian way of life/cricket.

Don't look now, but the Forbes list of richest people on Earth came out just today.

http://www.forbes.com/home/lists/20...res-billionaires08-cx_lk_0305billie_land.html

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/10/billionaires08_The-Worlds-Billionaires_Rank.html

And I sure see a record number of 4 Indians in the top 25. I'm sure this strong surge in recent Indian financial fortunes were due to the "run and hide cowardly" way of life. Those 4 dudes are just the tip of the iceberg, as for each of them there are tens of newly made mega-millionaires wandering around. And in a country so crazily obsessed with cricket, this sudden surge in moolah floating around can only mean one thing. More and more of investment in "run and hide cowardly" way of cricket. Like more youths like "run and hide coward" Sachin aspiring in youth academies, more "run and hide coward" captains like Kumble, and so on. And not to mention the new jumble of IPL and ICL, which is a totally different complicated topic by itself, which I don't want to go near right now.

 

[Ljp86]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Nope, never heard back from them. Neither from them, nor the ESPN cricket guys, whom I had contacted separately.

Typical of them.

I don't think "scared" was the right word, as much as "beginning to lose interest".

One thing I will say though for sure. Right from the first time I've interacted with you, you've always been a class poster. You love your Australia team, as you rightly should. But you're not in the "homerism, juvenile fan" category.

Thanks mate. You too are a good poster. @|

 

[STING]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Anyway, that West Indian team was never, ever, not even once scrutinized about any poor sportsmanship.

Wow what an interesting read . Anyway firstly the Indians were just too good for us , they were brave at selection picking young up and comers while we continued on with the tried and true and carried in too many out of form players and paid a hefty price .

Mate i am not sure how old you are but can you vivadly remember these West Indian sides ? and i am not having a go at you here , by the way . They played the exact brand of cricket that the current Australians play and have been playing for 15 years . Tough and uncomprimising . Were they bullies like the Aussies ? my word they were . Did they push the boundaries of the game ? they sure did and so do we .

In the 80's the West Indies were as dispised as any other team because they were so good and dominant , they attacked teams physically as well as mentally and verbally . But lets stick to the sportmanship point .

In a tour of NZ in the late 70's or early 80's ( can't remember exactly when ) Michael Holding kicked over the stumps when an appeal was turned down , this was followed by Colin Croft running intentially ( yes intentially ) into the back of the main umpire in delivery stride again after appeals were turned down . On top of that Gordon Greenidge regularly smashed his stumps down when given out or after a poor shot . Is this good sportmanship when things don't go your way ?

I am not for one second defending the Aussies because a few times i feel they have stepped over the mark and will continue to do so , but it does take two to tango and India are not completely innocent either . Australia were criticised heavily after there 'over the top celebrations' after the second test , yet no one mentioned Indias celebrations the other night which to me were on par with the Aussies and perhaps even more over the top . And good on them too .

 

[Chandu]

Re: Muahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Mate i am not sure how old you are but can you vivadly remember these West Indian sides ?

Of course, I do!!!! I still remember them just like yesterday, I'll never forget them. They were the best ever team I became a fan of as a youngster. Viv Richards, Malcolm Marshall, Gordon Greenidge, Joel Garner, Andy Roberts, Clive Llyod, Michael Holding, Alvin Kalicharan, Desmond Haynes and so on and on... These were all household names in India. Many a kids growing up in India dreamed of being able to bat like Viv Richards or bowl like Malcolm Marshall. For whatever reason, I can't say the same about names like Border, Steve Waugh, Warne, Gilly, Pidgeon. And definitely not Punter. All these Aussie players are fantastically skilled cricketers without a shadow of doubt. You don't need someone like me to pass that judgment. There were only 2 Aussies from older era who transcended that boundary and they were Dennis Lillee and Jeff Thompson. They were very popular, maybe not at the same level as West Indians, but still. For whatever reason, modern Aussie approach to cricket never endeared itself with subcontinent fans like old West Indies did. And I'm sure not much of Indian cricket has endeared itself in Australia, and there are no tears shed in India over this fact.

It's plain and simple. As things stand right now, there is absolutely no love lost between the 2 very different cricket cultures, which are good in their own right.

They played the exact brand of cricket that the current Australians play and have been playing for 15 years . Tough and uncomprimising . Were they bullies like the Aussies ? my word they were . Did they push the boundaries of the game ? they sure did and so do we .

In the 80's the West Indies were as dispised as any other team because they were so good and dominant , they attacked teams physically as well as mentally and verbally . But lets stick to the sportmanship point .

In a tour of NZ in the late 70's or early 80's ( can't remember exactly when ) Michael Holding kicked over the stumps when an appeal was turned down , this was followed by Colin Croft running intentially ( yes intentially ) into the back of the main umpire in delivery stride again after appeals were turned down . On top of that Gordon Greenidge regularly smashed his stumps down when given out or after a poor shot . Is this good sportmanship when things don't go your way ?

I appreciate you posting this different perspective. I'm not necessarily saying I agree with all of it, simply because I'm not too familiar with each of these incidents. You have to realise, back in those days we didn't have internet message boards, cable/satellite TV and other forms of instant communication. Heck, it was next to impossible watching any cricket involving 2 totally different countries. In India in those days, if those were matches not involving India, there was zero TV coverage. And I don't just mean full matches. Even getting any match highlights was rare. There would nothing more than few newspaper blurbs a day later. All I recalled from my own memory was there were no big controversies for subcontinent teams (India/Sri Lanka/Pakistan) playing against those opponents, either on their soil or subcontinent.

Anyway, once again I appreciate your different perspective. I'll research on these incidents you mention later, when I have more spare time.