The Lounge 2

[Grier]

In some Australian states the youth violence is out of control with fights, gang knife and machete big fights in shopping centres with terrified shoppers, home invasions, killings, machetes now banned, robberies of victims in broad daylight, mindless violence, ...
Because of that "Adult Crime, Adult time" is gaining traction.

There are divided opinions on the subject. Thoughts?

 

[looker-on]

In some Australian states the youth violence is out of control with fights, gang knife and machete big fights in shopping centres with terrified shoppers, home invasions, killings, machetes now banned, robberies of victims in broad daylight, mindless violence, ...
Because of that "Adult Crime, Adult time" is gaining traction.

There are divided opinions on the subject. Thoughts?

That's bad and it sounds like street violence in South America. I'd have three questions: What is Adult Crime, Adult Time? What might be the cause of this development? What measures are being taken to contain it? Most importantly: How can anyone be in favour of it given that opinions are divided?

 

[looker-on]

No, it happened with high tyre pressure on a sloping gravel road, what we in West Australia call "ball bearing gravel".

My Honda mechanic suggested I run both my tyres 4 psi higher than recommended. He said it'd give me a quicker response handling. He didn't say my tyre grip would be lessened. I'm wiser now and back to the manual's pressure, and riding on bitumen only.
I also bought that tyre inflater for only $65. With a 3m power cord it get its power from my old Corolla's cigarette lighter, just like my Navman. 3m is tight though.
Anyway I can push my bicycle and motor bike next to my car to check/inflate. Instructions were simple and brief. I like that but will get my retired mechanic mate to check it out anyway.

Sounds like you don't have any battery problems with your car, Terry? That's puzzling because I assume you don't use your car that often, do you? The starter battery is the weak point of my Yaris Cross and couldn't take any additional drain on it. Do you recharge it regularly? At least you could since it is in your garage. Kerbside parkers owning my car would have severe problems and, realistically, would have to sell it, something no salesman would admit to prospects.

 

[Grier]

That's bad and it sounds like street violence in South America. I'd have three questions: What is Adult Crime, Adult Time? What might be the cause of this development? What measures are being taken to contain it? Most importantly: How can anyone be in favour of it given that opinions are divided?

"Adult Crime, Adult Time" means that if a youth comits a very serious crime like murder, home invasions with vicious mindless violence, then they get sentenced like an adult would. Say 20 years. It's a drastic move motivated by the huge youth crime wave in Australia currently, mostly in the state of Victoria.

I recently read teen students in Australia are the worst behaved of all OECD countries.
That is a major factor with many teachers quitting the profession leaving schools very

Sounds like you don't have any battery problems with your car, Terry? That's puzzling because I assume you don't use your car that often, do you? The starter battery is the weak point of my Yaris Cross and couldn't take any additional drain on it. Do you recharge it regularly? At least you could since it is in your garage. Kerbside parkers owning my car would have severe problems and, realistically, would have to sell it, something no salesman would admit to prospects.

That little air pump I bought runs off my car's cigarette lighter and can pump up to 150psi. Its air lead is 3m long so I can push my motor bike or bicycle next to my car, and keep the car running.
My car battery seems fine, but it's old. No worries, my Road assistance company RAC will deliver and install a new battery at a fair cost.
I mainly wanted the air pump for my motor bike and bicycle. Especially my motorbike.

I used to have a battery charger but it wasn't very good.
I've even got an old set of jumper leads but won't use them given the sensitive electronics in modern cars. I did lend them to a couple of young blokes last week tho with a flat battery in a shopping carpark. Their choice, but they got another fellow in an old car to use his battery.
That's a lovely aspect of Australian culture, to lend a hand.
I think part of that comes from driving on outback roads and tracks where drivers help out each other with break downs, to not do so is reprehensible. Three times I broke down, once in the lonely Wheat Belt, once in the Outback and once in the far Outback where I was rescued by grader driver. He took me back to his camp where he 'gave' me a Jerry can of petrol, then drove me back to my vehicle where we refuelled my 4WD.
Yes, I'd run out of petrol in the back of nowhere because my Surveyor boss told me I had a full Reserve petrol tank ...
He was wrong about that with one of our ChainMen forgetting to fill it, and no drinking water either!

Thank goodness for the generosity of strangers.

 

[Richie]

"Adult Crime, Adult Time" means that if a youth comits a very serious crime like murder, home invasions with vicious mindless violence, then they get sentenced like an adult would. Say 20 years. It's a drastic move motivated by the huge youth crime wave in Australia currently, mostly in the state of Victoria.

Ingigenous youth crime in some of my states country towns is also out of control.

 

[Richie]

Australias world leading ban on social media for under 16s comes into effect today. I see it as being a positive step to stop online pedophilia and bullying. But it is also removing a democratic freedom for our youth. No doubt parents are pleased with the ban.

Comments

 

[Grier]

Australias world leading ban on social media for under 16s comes into effect today. I see it as being a positive step to stop online pedophilia and bullying. But it is also removing a democratic freedom for our youth. No doubt parents are pleased with the ban.

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Hi Craig,

I feel many kids are getting bullied and really stressed out with aĺl the ills of social media for a while now. It used to be face to face words, nails, fists. ... We see more and more the negative affects upon and from teens without fully matured minds and brains. Crikey, I couldn't handle the horrid online abuse kids and young teens get nowadays.

The bans possibly are a breach of Freedom of Speech and that's being tested in the courts of other countries and the US , ours too soon I hear by two smart Aussie teens!
Children have even committed suicide because of Cyber Bullying. That is so very tragic.

Having raised two daughters myself, and not trying to be sexist, I remember how gossipy they got in their teens. I enjoyed listening to those tales, and adding a little perspective to their stories, only just now and then.
They turned out

It's a tough call to get the balance right and many other countries following Australia's lead, but with mostly more lenient age bans. Watch and See stuff I reckon.
Fairy Nuff,
but knowing teens well I thought from the get-go the kids could work around the ban, like just using a VPN, (virtual private network), or their parents' log in condoned or not. Lots of other ways too no doubt. More gates to shut I guess, if possible.
There's some allowed minor social teen sites like lemon8 I think that young teens can use. Fair enough, and hope it's monitored and tame.
What a sad thing are those Peadophiles preying upon children with sly tactics squeezing through the cracks of scrutiny. Big wide cracks ignored for decades and more.
All that Working with Children red tape was useless imho.

Their ineptitude is unforgivable.

 

[Kram81]

Thanks mate. I had no idea how large a cricket ball and a baseball are. I'd have been completely wrong about the size of a baseball. Guess I should have watched this video.
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[Grier]

That was a good clip Kram, thanks.
The cricket bat was impressive in terms of power and undoubtedly more adept with the finese of strokes that are available to a skilled batsman or batswoman.

 

[Richie]

I'd guess a baseball bat as you can generate more power when you swing from the hip. Sending a cricket ball a long way requires more finesse and timing to generate its power. I'd also suspect a cricket bat is heavier than a baseball bat too with its added 'sweet spot'. Was I correct?

 

[Richie]

Terry hope you are not being impacted by these Perth wild fires. I recall back in the early 2000s when a massive fire in nearby bush reserve threatened our home,thankfully firies extinguished it before it reached us. But it sure was scary with an orange and black sky and embers falling onto our property. From memory 20 homes were damaged in a next door suburb. We lucked in that day.

 

[Grier]

Terry hope you are not being impacted by these Perth wild fires. I recall back in the early 2000s when a massive fire in nearby bush reserve threatened our home,thankfully firies extinguished it before it reached us. But it sure was scary with an orange and black sky and embers falling onto our property. From memory 20 homes were damaged in a next door suburb. We lucked in that day.

Hi Craig,

Perth has ongoing fires in outer areas south and north which Fire Fighters are battling. It's hard yakka.
After a very wet winter all the vegetation grew much more than usual. Spring was hot and the vegetation dried out and now just into our Summer the heavy vegetation is tinder dry. Lightning, Accidents of all kinds like an angle grinder starting a fire, and of course the malicious Arsonists, and silly kids ... trees touching power lines, electrical faults, ... many causes.
Weighing up probabilities Fires in WA seem almost inevitable. I was a volunteer firefighter when I lived in the hills above Perth. I received lots of training and even got to drive an ex army make-do Fire Truck on back roads and tracks, and even some bush bashing. I always enjoyed that part having done lots surveying and as a wild teen with my bush bashers.

A Fiery just lost his life backburning near Esperance. It's a dangerous but necessary civic role whether professional or volunteer. I once had to run like buggery from two closing fronts. That was scary. I just couldn't be a Firey now nearing seventy but greatly admire those who can and do.

I'm now retiring in suburbia, a street back from bushland which I've seen burnabout three times in 30 years. I'm not too worried as a Fire station and Police station was built on that same Bushland in recent years.
Today again I could smell smoke in the air.
39C and a Lightning storm is forecast for Sunday. .
Thank goodness I finally got my reverse cycle split air conditioner just installed. Just in time for those dreadful hot humid days like this Sunday.

I really feel for those in the Eastern States whom Nature is pounding again and again. Floods, droughts, fires, ... I have lots of family in the Eastern states I worry about.

Some say why is this happening?

 

[looker-on]

Hi Craig,

Perth has ongoing fires in outer areas south and north which Fire Fighters are battling. It's hard yakka.
After a very wet winter all the vegetation grew much more than usual. Spring was hot and the vegetation dried out and now just into our Summer the heavy vegetation is tinder dry. Lightning, Accidents of all kinds like an angle grinder starting a fire, and of course the malicious Arsonists, and silly kids ... trees touching power lines, electrical faults, ... many causes.
Weighing up probabilities Fires in WA seem almost inevitable. I was a volunteer firefighter when I lived in the hills above Perth. I received lots of training and even got to drive an ex army make-do Fire Truck on back roads and tracks, and even some bush bashing. I always enjoyed that part having done lots surveying and as a wild teen with my bush bashers.

A Fiery just lost his life backburning near Esperance. It's a dangerous but necessary civic role whether professional or volunteer. I once had to run like buggery from two closing fronts. That was scary. I just couldn't be a Firey now nearing seventy but greatly admire those who can and do.

I'm now retiring in suburbia, a street back from bushland which I've seen burnabout three times in 30 years. I'm not too worried as a Fire station and Police station was built on that same Bushland in recent years.
Today again I could smell smoke in the air.
39C and a Lightning storm is forecast for Sunday. .
Thank goodness I finally got my reverse cycle split air conditioner just installed. Just in time for those dreadful hot humid days like this Sunday.

I really feel for those in the Eastern States whom Nature is pounding again and again. Floods, droughts, fires, ... I have lots of family in the Eastern states I worry about.

Some say why is this happening?

It's reassuring that you regard the situation as safe, Terry, and I keep my fingers crossed for yours living in the east. It's strange to read that temps are up in the high thirties while we are struggling with just above zero temps and still have to thank our lucky stars for it.

You answered your last question yourself on different occasions and that was to the point. The whole development is worrying.

 

[Grier]

It's reassuring that you regard the situation as safe, Terry, and I keep my fingers crossed for yours living in the east. It's strange to read that temps are up in the high thirties while we are struggling with just above zero temps and still have to thank our lucky stars for it.

You answered your last question yourself on different occasions and that was to the point. The whole development is worrying.

Of course it was rhetorical Thomas. There is still a lot of Global Warming deniers, especially in the US and thankfully just a few in Australia. I've met a few but can't be bothered trying to explain the Science to such entrenched sceptics.
Trump calls it a Chinese hoax as extreme weather events continue to wreck havoc all over the globe.
After Cop30 lately I lament the stupefying ignorance and short term self interest shown by many nations.

With rising sea levels Tuvalu in the South Pacific is suffering immensely from rising sea levels and climate change, experiencing land loss, saltwater contamination, food/water insecurity, increased disease, and cultural threats, making it one of the most vulnerable nations to disappearing, with projections showing much of it underwater by 2100, forcing its people to seek climate migration.
In the face of the “existential threat posed by climate change,” the new Australian visa offers Tuvalu citizens a pathway to permanent residency in Australia. Since mid-June, more than a third of Tuvalu’s population has registered for an online ballot to obtain the world-first climate visa.
More than 1,000 Tuvalu nationals have entered the ballot to apply for an Australian visa since it opened earlier this month. When accounting for family members – including applicants’ spouses and children – the total surpassed 4,000. For an island that is home to some 10,000 people, the number is rather impressive.

I'm proud of Australia's humanitarian response to the Tuvaluians sinking attols.

 

[Grier]

Re Global Warming, here's the weather for my little Perth Suburb tomorrow:

Just 2 weeks into our Summer.
Thank goodness I've just got my new ac going at a drying 25C on Eco mode. Even 26C Eco is good for me. It's the humidity I can't handle.