The Offical Australian Summer 09/10 Fielding Performance Thread

The Offical Australian Summer 09/10 Fielding Performance Thread

Right, pretty simple. I want to develop a database tracking the performance of the Australian players in the field.

I have long thought Clarke to be as accurate as a world war 2 German Machine gun when his trying to effect direct hits. Todays miss in the first over of the windies innings didn't do anything to suggest otherwise.

So I'll start the database off, update it when you see a catch dropped or taken, or a runout missed or taken, also include direct hits.

I'm including the main fielders in the team including Haddin the keeper in my anaylsis.

Cordon:

Haddin: 1 catch

Ponting: 0 catchs, 1 drop

Watson: 2 catchs.

North: 0 catchs

Ring Field

Clarke: 0 catchs, 1 run out missed.
 
Re: The Offical Australian Summer 09/10 Fielding Performance Thread

Good thread.

What's the definition of a drop though? Are we purely counting spills, or also ones where the fielder misjudges the flight/carry? If just spills, what about for really tough ones (say, well down the leg side, or a hard drive back over the bowler's head) where someone does well to get a hand/glove to it?

Tracking runouts is a good one as well. If I was watching more of the games I'd try and include more fielding errors as well (like returns that result in overthrows being taken).
 
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Be also good to keep track and see if anyone can beat Ponting for the dropped sitter of the season
 
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eddiesmith;377594 said:
Be also good to keep track and see if anyone can beat Ponting for the dropped sitter of the season

The David Hussey award?
 
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I just wish cricket had the same statistics of baseball in a way, they keep track of everything from throwing from wherever to what bas and any errors made and so on and on and on. I believe more emphasis should be placed on fielding in cricket and bring it to a standard where there aren't just and average of one Rhodes/Ponting/Symonds per team worldwide, but a team full of them. Australia did well a little while ago with the test team having Langer, Hayden, Ponting, Hussey, Clarke, Symonds, Warne, Lee and McGrath with Gilchrist keeping and a spot that was changing. They were all exceptional and some of the greatest fielders ever to walk the game as a team, if not individually. Now, though, it isn't as exciting, even in the ODIs, and the game is much, much better when there is spectacular fielding. People say the game is becoming a batsman's game, but if you have great fielders their job is doubled in difficulty.

Well other than that I'm up for handing out the David Hussey award for the worst dropped catch of the international Australian Season.

Strange that to start this all off that Ponting drops a sitter right after the KFC classic catches were shown with him taking the blinder catch in Adelaide against the Kiwis for Lee's 300th wicket last season, and then Watson takes 2 great catches. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's the wrong way round.
 
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I don't much like the baseball tendancy to reduce everything to statistics though, I feel something is lost. I am not really a proponent of sabermetrics.
 
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Caesar;377730 said:
I don't much like the baseball tendancy to reduce everything to statistics though, I feel something is lost. I am not really a proponent of sabermetrics.

I agree and disagree there.

I don't like statistics much to tell the truth because people use them to compare two players when they quite clearly don't watch them play in the same team to compare them in actual reality, to see the effect they have on a game. That is the most important thing in cricket, not if you average 50, but if you save the side from loss or bring them to a win on the third or fourth day. You are right, something is lost with statistics.

Stats are for historical purposes to look back upon once the player has finished their career, and it is great to look back and remember how they got those stats.

The good thing about them though, is that they add meaning where it counts. Batsman work to get their average up, to be the best in the country or the world through stats. That is a motivation that can have a very positive affect on the player. I would like to see more stats kept on fielding, because I find from a young age players are forgetting that fielding has just as important a meaning as the other areas of the game.
 
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You should do this up in an Excel spreadsheet or similar if you can.

I will keep this database if you don't want to LtD.
 
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I can't watch the entire test match, each and every day.

Im mainly interested in the runouts and the percentage of hits and misses. Also the performance of the slips cordon and the keeper is interesting. We really only need to record the dropped chances, rather then the catchs as we can get the latter from the scorecards.

I don't think there was any dropped catchs in the second West Indian innings was there? But Clarke did miss another run-out.
 
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Well I have been saving the commentary from all the games since the start of this year, and the CA website has commentary particularly focussed on the Aussies, so all drops and misses are commented on there, just not the difficulty.

We don't just want to record the bad stuff though, and greatness is to be recorded too.

Everyone needs to pitch in and if you see a blunder or a spectacular catch then record it here.
 
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I must admit im mainly concered with the performance of the cordon, including the keeper, and the number of direct hits.

Only one chance was dropped in the cordon in the first test, how many catchs were in the cordon across both innings?

2 run outs were missed by M Clarke.
 
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You can add Hussey to the spectacular catches list. Great catch by him, couldn't get better.
 
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