The Serious Discussion Thread.

Trump campaigned hard on keeping America out of foreign 'forever' wars like Iraq, based on faulty intelligence over Saddam Hussein's non-existent weapons of mass destruction.
Well another Trump back flip as over nite the US bombed Iran nuke facilities. Not sure they targeted the hidden enrichment plant as yet. Tyrannical Ayatollah said if America attacks Iran then they will attack their military interests in the region. In other concerning news 10 Arab nations have snubbed Israel and are now backing Iran. This is a massive escalation, dare I say another religious Crusade War or worse, the beginning of WW3.
 
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Not sure they targeted the hidden enrichment plant as yet.
Confirmation thru that the Fordow enrichment plant was Trumps major target. What are your views on whether Iran needed the enrichment process for energy to power a nuke plant, as they swore black and blue they were NOT enriching for a bomb. The super egotist is slapping himself on the back today being filmed in just about every western media site ..
 
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Should Australia follow the US into yet another war of their making??

Heck, NO!

We're not a Vassal state of the US.
 
"Mr Trump, are you trying to start WWIII?"
Seeing him fist pumping in his silly red MAGA cap wearing his maniacal grin after obliterating Iranian nuke sites makes me wanna 🤮 . Suppose gotta hand it to the Yanks given their Stealth bombers were never even spotted by radar, so they could operate their bombing raid with impunity. US is a formidable enemy to have.
 
Seeing him fist pumping in his silly red MAGA cap wearing his maniacal grin after obliterating Iranian nuke sites makes me wanna 🤮 . Suppose gotta hand it to the Yanks given their Stealth bombers were never even spotted by radar, so they could operate their bombing raid with impunity. US is a formidable enemy to have.
I read those stealth Bombers appear like a small bird to ground observers.

Interestingly is the number of countries now condoning the US's attack on Iran's nuclear facilities. Even Australia too with Penny Wong making statements to that effect.

From the ABC:
Australia has given its support to US strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities but has repeated calls for de-escalation to avoid a wider war.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said on Monday Australia was in favour of action to prevent Iran getting a nuclear weapon, echoing comments made earlier on Monday by Foreign Minister Penny Wong.

"The world has long agreed Iran cannot be allowed to get a nuclear weapon, and we support action to prevent that. That is what this is," the PM told reporters.

The government initially adopted a more cautious tone, declining to give its explicit support.
 
Trump Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize: “I deserve it more than most”

That is a bizarre decision by the Nobel Foundation and narcissism and egotism at its extreme by Trump.
How can anyone enabling Genocide for a War Criminal mate be a Nobel Peace prize winner?
Now he's got the US into a war with Iran with many Middle East Nations bristling with anger at the US. All those US bases in the Middle East best be on alert.
Victimisation of migrants, riots he caused in LA, ...
Theatening to take Greenland and the Panama canal by force if neccessary. Wanting to make Canada (and even Australia) Vassal states to his towering ego, with many saying he's a malignant narcissistic. (Meta AI said so too)
But the icing on his hubris cake is that I read Pakistan said he did bug-ger all.
He stuck his nose in as usual thinking he's akin to a demi-god. More like a demon judging by his chaotic behaviours causing so much pain all over the planet.
My dog is more worthy of a Nobel Peace prize than Trump. 🏆 🐕
 
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Here's a bit of foreboding :

Armageddon, in religious contexts, refers to the prophesied final battle between good and evil at the end of the world. It's often associated with the Book of Revelation in the Christian Bible.
Outside of religious interpretations, "Armageddon" can also be used more broadly to describe a catastrophic event or a point of ultimate crisis.

In more detail:

  • Biblical/Religious:
    In the Bible, particularly the Book of Revelation, Armageddon is the name of the location where a great battle will take place, involving armies from around the world, gathered by the antichrist to fight against God's forces. This battle is seen as the climax of the end times.

  • Generic Usage:
    The term "Armageddon" is often used metaphorically to signify any large-scale conflict, a point of no return, or a catastrophic event with far-reaching consequences. For example, a severe environmental disaster might be referred to as an "environmental Armageddon".
Just out of morbid curiosity I found this below:

The term Armageddon actually comes from the Hebrew word Har Megiddo, which refers to the ancient city of Megiddo. Megiddo is an archaeological site located in northern Israel. It's a tell, or mound, that contains the remains of many ancient cities. The site has been excavated and is now a national park.

And a few maps for its location, now named Megiddo:

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Not heard a word about this.
I can't remember who said it recently but:

Australia’s participation in the Aukus defence pact risks handing military control of the country to Washington and becoming the “51st state of the United States”, according to former prime minister Paul Keating.
 
How the Trump world is turning recently is strange. Many European countries' Leaders and NATO have been seriously fawning over Trump. Promises of 5% GNP to defence agreed bar one. Spain I think?
Anyway, Trump's looking more fondly now towards NATO. Art of the deal?

Here in Australia @ 2.3% GNP for defence, it now seems low in comparison, and I tend to think we do need to increase that with China on the prowl. Looking at the advantages of nuclear subs I see now their superiority to convention subs as a strong deterrent.
My tunes are charging I freely admit, and am even looking a little favourably at Trump's bomb- blast, Big Daddy to some..... That was funny!

All know now how much Trump loves praise. He yearns for that Nobel Peace prize which seems now a great carrot 🥕 for him to act more compassionately.
I'm fine with that delusion of Trump's, who enabled the Ethnic Cleasing of Gazians with his visions of the Middle East Reviera.
 
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How the Trump world is turning recently is strange. Many European countries' Leaders and NATO have been seriously fawning over Trump. Promises of 5% GNP to defence agreed bar one. Spain I think?
Anyway, Trump's looking more fondly now towards NATO. Art of the deal?

Here in Australia @ 2.3% GNP for defence, it now seems low in comparison, and I tend to think we do need to increase that with China on the prowl. Looking at the advantages of nuclear subs I see now their superiority to convention subs as a strong deterrent.
My tunes are charging I freely admit, and am even looking a little favourably at Trump's bomb- blast, Big Daddy to some..... That was funny!

All know now how much Trump loves praise. He yearns for that Nobel Peace prize which seems now a great carrot 🥕 for him to act more compassionately.
I'm fine with that delusion of Trump's, who enabled the Ethnic Cleasing of Gazians with his visions of the Middle East Reviera.
How could you ever give a noble peace prize to such a flog who has such dishonest & checkered past?
 
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