Twenty20 World Cup Discussion/Match talk thread
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From one O'Brien to another, this time it's Kevin doing the damage after brother Niall was belting them earlier. O'Brien has cracked 25 from only 12 balls and has put Ireland in a strong position.
4/122 from 17.1 overs, 16 needed from 17 balls now. Strange captaincy from Ashraful bringing Rubel Hossain back onto bowl instead of Shakib al Hasan or Naeem Islam. Hossain bowled the 17th over which went for 13 runs.
From one O'Brien to another, this time it's Kevin doing the damage after brother Niall was belting them earlier. O'Brien has cracked 25 from only 12 balls and has put Ireland in a strong position.
4/122 from 17.1 overs, 16 needed from 17 balls now. Strange captaincy from Ashraful bringing Rubel Hossain back onto bowl instead of Shakib al Hasan or Naeem Islam. Hossain bowled the 17th over which went for 13 runs.
eddiesmith
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Great result for world cricket, another minnow through
Now if the Dutch can get through we can finally find out who is the no1 Associate nation after their final last year got washed out
Great result for world cricket, another minnow through
Now if the Dutch can get through we can finally find out who is the no1 Associate nation after their final last year got washed out
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Game over!! Bangladesh are out of the tournament!! Kevin finishes the game with another four off Rubel Hossain which takes Ireland to 4/138 from 18.2 overs. O'Brien finishes with 39 not out from 17 balls, a whirlwind knock which has certainly won the game for Ireland along with some solid foundations laid by his brother.
Another poor effort from the Bangladesh side, they spluttered early, the dismissal of Ashraful was unacceptable for a captain and from there they really struggled. Mortaza came to their rescue late with some big hits but the middle order was very, very ordinary and their batting still needs work.
Take nothing away from Ireland though, they were great with the ball and just kept applying the pressure to the Tigers and never relented. Another big upset in the Twenty20 World Cup.
Game over!! Bangladesh are out of the tournament!! Kevin finishes the game with another four off Rubel Hossain which takes Ireland to 4/138 from 18.2 overs. O'Brien finishes with 39 not out from 17 balls, a whirlwind knock which has certainly won the game for Ireland along with some solid foundations laid by his brother.
Another poor effort from the Bangladesh side, they spluttered early, the dismissal of Ashraful was unacceptable for a captain and from there they really struggled. Mortaza came to their rescue late with some big hits but the middle order was very, very ordinary and their batting still needs work.
Take nothing away from Ireland though, they were great with the ball and just kept applying the pressure to the Tigers and never relented. Another big upset in the Twenty20 World Cup.
mas cambios
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If we can get the Netherlands through as well, it'll make the tournament more interesting.
Again though Ireland show that they are a decent team and maybe money should be put forward into getting them up to test status rather than Zimbabwe.
If we can get the Netherlands through as well, it'll make the tournament more interesting.
Again though Ireland show that they are a decent team and maybe money should be put forward into getting them up to test status rather than Zimbabwe.
eddiesmith
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Well the perfect batting lineup that failed to make a decent total in the first game gets to bat first tonight again, should make another superb total as Ricky doesnt think there are any weak links in the batting side of things (Then again he wouldnt admit he and his vice captain are crap and dont deserve a game!)
Well the perfect batting lineup that failed to make a decent total in the first game gets to bat first tonight again, should make another superb total as Ricky doesnt think there are any weak links in the batting side of things (Then again he wouldnt admit he and his vice captain are crap and dont deserve a game!)
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1 change, Hauritz for Hopes, great stuff Ricky, Hopes was the problem against the Windies, superb move, team is perfect now...
1 change, Hauritz for Hopes, great stuff Ricky, Hopes was the problem against the Windies, superb move, team is perfect now...
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Well Australia are now out of the tournament.
Australia 9/159(20)(Johnson 28*,D.Hussey 28,Mendis 3/20,Malnga 3/36) lost to Sri Lanka 4/160(19)(Sangakkara 55*,Dilshan 53,Lee 2/39)
eddiesmith;351876 said:1 change, Hauritz for Hopes, great stuff Ricky, Hopes was the problem against the Windies, superb move, team is perfect now...
Well Australia are now out of the tournament.
Australia 9/159(20)(Johnson 28*,D.Hussey 28,Mendis 3/20,Malnga 3/36) lost to Sri Lanka 4/160(19)(Sangakkara 55*,Dilshan 53,Lee 2/39)
a for effort
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Are Morgan and Joyce allowed to play for Ireland again in the future? Would be a handy side with those two.
mas cambios;351874 said:
Are Morgan and Joyce allowed to play for Ireland again in the future? Would be a handy side with those two.
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How was Hopes the problem? I would have though that was Brett Lee! Not on his own either. Hauritz did well, though are you like the selectors and refuse to see where the underperforming is really coming from?
eddiesmith;351876 said:1 change, Hauritz for Hopes, great stuff Ricky, Hopes was the problem against the Windies, superb move, team is perfect now...
How was Hopes the problem? I would have though that was Brett Lee! Not on his own either. Hauritz did well, though are you like the selectors and refuse to see where the underperforming is really coming from?
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Another disappointing effort from Australia and now they're out of the tournament. Batting was the problem yet again, no-one made a big score and players got out at crucial times just as they were looking set. Luckily Johnson and Lee were able to smash a few around to get us something defendable.
I'm surprised David Hussey didn't get a bowl with the other two spinners being our best bowlers, the quicks were fairly ordinary again and gave away far too many runs. They might have to invest in another spinner as they are doing the job in this tournament so far.
Top order needs some Ronchi in my opinion.
Would have to go through the four-year qualification process again.
Another disappointing effort from Australia and now they're out of the tournament. Batting was the problem yet again, no-one made a big score and players got out at crucial times just as they were looking set. Luckily Johnson and Lee were able to smash a few around to get us something defendable.
I'm surprised David Hussey didn't get a bowl with the other two spinners being our best bowlers, the quicks were fairly ordinary again and gave away far too many runs. They might have to invest in another spinner as they are doing the job in this tournament so far.
Top order needs some Ronchi in my opinion.
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Would have to go through the four-year qualification process again.
eddiesmith
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at the end?
You can see my thoughts on Ponting and his perfect batting lineup over the last 2 pages
Why do you think I putSober Symonds;351926 said:
at the end? You can see my thoughts on Ponting and his perfect batting lineup over the last 2 pages
Sober Symonds
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Ah-ha, I'm reading you now - loud and clear. Sorry, a bit slow on the uptake.
I've aired my thoughts elsewhere also <http://www.bigcricket.com/forum/t67910/#post351929>
Whilst we're on the sarcasm angle (my favourite, actually!), Gee, didn't MHussey look comfortable during his innings last night? Coupled with the dropped/missed catch the other night, he is but a shade of his former self. Was a much better player when we were a dominant side. If nowadays is a true test of his worth, then he is failing miserably.
Too much pressure/reliance on Ponting in all forms. Too many mediocre performances & lean patches tolerated in the current batting line-up.
eddiesmith;351928 said:Why do you think I put
You can see my thoughts on Ponting and his perfect batting lineup over the last 2 pages
Ah-ha, I'm reading you now - loud and clear. Sorry, a bit slow on the uptake.
I've aired my thoughts elsewhere also <http://www.bigcricket.com/forum/t67910/#post351929>
Whilst we're on the sarcasm angle (my favourite, actually!), Gee, didn't MHussey look comfortable during his innings last night? Coupled with the dropped/missed catch the other night, he is but a shade of his former self. Was a much better player when we were a dominant side. If nowadays is a true test of his worth, then he is failing miserably.
Too much pressure/reliance on Ponting in all forms. Too many mediocre performances & lean patches tolerated in the current batting line-up.
eddiesmith
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I agree on the other forms but I am not sure but I think Ponting may be one of the problems in the T20 format
You have Warner who can get off to a flier, Watson occassionally then a middle order of Clarke, Ponting and Haddin who let it slow down too much before the big hitting of the Hussey brothers at the end
Mike is looking abit out of form, but I think he has more to offer a T20 side than Ponting and Clarke, but is out of form rather than out of his depth
Australias best side for the next 12-18 months should look something like
Warner, Hodge, , Dussey, White, , Haddin
2 spots in the lineup I struggle to fill, maybe Ponting has to stick around as captain and might do alright with better T20 batsmen around him rather than having to be the quickest scorer out there in a partnership. Also lacks an extra finisher who can buckle down if it all goes wrong, Mike Hussey would be good if in form, maybe even Hopes slips into the top 7 and Hauritz plays
The bowling attack
Johnson, Bracken, Hauritz, Hopes
Need another quick in there, Siddle and Hilfy should stick to Tests, Harwood maybe getting a bit late for him and they have lost Nannes. Might be a case of trying a few over the summer and seeing who does best
Watson as depth only in case of injuries to others (Wouldnt that be ironic!)
I agree on the other forms but I am not sure but I think Ponting may be one of the problems in the T20 format
You have Warner who can get off to a flier, Watson occassionally then a middle order of Clarke, Ponting and Haddin who let it slow down too much before the big hitting of the Hussey brothers at the end
Mike is looking abit out of form, but I think he has more to offer a T20 side than Ponting and Clarke, but is out of form rather than out of his depth
Australias best side for the next 12-18 months should look something like
Warner, Hodge, , Dussey, White, , Haddin
2 spots in the lineup I struggle to fill, maybe Ponting has to stick around as captain and might do alright with better T20 batsmen around him rather than having to be the quickest scorer out there in a partnership. Also lacks an extra finisher who can buckle down if it all goes wrong, Mike Hussey would be good if in form, maybe even Hopes slips into the top 7 and Hauritz plays
The bowling attack
Johnson, Bracken, Hauritz, Hopes
Need another quick in there, Siddle and Hilfy should stick to Tests, Harwood maybe getting a bit late for him and they have lost Nannes. Might be a case of trying a few over the summer and seeing who does best
Watson as depth only in case of injuries to others (Wouldnt that be ironic!
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i think lee is the right choice. he bowled as well as johnson did in the windies game, its just gayle took to him for one big over that could just as easily been johnson, bracken or hopes. its not the bowling so much that is the let down, its the batting.
lee bowled pretty well against sri lanka and is australias fastest and most accurate considering bowler. plus he is experienced and as he has shown can bat pretty darn well. he gets wickets and is a strike bowler, so runs arent his top priority. its either him or a bowler such as tait for this form of the game. i would prefer both but i think the other spots are being filled. plus hopes can bat up the order a bit and takes clarke's spot. haddin needs to go down to where he was originally. ponting is a half and half spot in my mind, sometimes he is pretty good, but i dont think at no.3.
the selectors need to go back to the drawing board and start from scratch. pick a team for their T20 abilities, not their ODI or test abilities. or just get rid of this form of the game altogether... i dont like it at all.
i think lee is the right choice. he bowled as well as johnson did in the windies game, its just gayle took to him for one big over that could just as easily been johnson, bracken or hopes. its not the bowling so much that is the let down, its the batting.
lee bowled pretty well against sri lanka and is australias fastest and most accurate considering bowler. plus he is experienced and as he has shown can bat pretty darn well. he gets wickets and is a strike bowler, so runs arent his top priority. its either him or a bowler such as tait for this form of the game. i would prefer both but i think the other spots are being filled. plus hopes can bat up the order a bit and takes clarke's spot. haddin needs to go down to where he was originally. ponting is a half and half spot in my mind, sometimes he is pretty good, but i dont think at no.3.
the selectors need to go back to the drawing board and start from scratch. pick a team for their T20 abilities, not their ODI or test abilities. or just get rid of this form of the game altogether... i dont like it at all.
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The problem with Lee is he was bowling brilliantly one over then chucks out a rubbish ball and a no ball and the free hit flies for 4 and its suddenly a bad over
The problem with Lee is he was bowling brilliantly one over then chucks out a rubbish ball and a no ball and the free hit flies for 4 and its suddenly a bad over
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Most good batsmen will to take to Lee in a 20/20 because nearly every ball is full, outside off and 85-90mph. The reason Bracken, Hopes etc are so effective in limited overs games is because they have keep the batsmen guessing with changes of pace, wrist position etc. Gone are the day's when Lee can scare batsmen out, and it's his predictability that makes him fodder for the best batsmen, especially when there's no swing or seam movement to be had.
Most good batsmen will to take to Lee in a 20/20 because nearly every ball is full, outside off and 85-90mph. The reason Bracken, Hopes etc are so effective in limited overs games is because they have keep the batsmen guessing with changes of pace, wrist position etc. Gone are the day's when Lee can scare batsmen out, and it's his predictability that makes him fodder for the best batsmen, especially when there's no swing or seam movement to be had.
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he bowls no balls still, unlike other bowlers who have changed greatly since the free hit rule. its always been a problem of his.
i just find it funny that one year ago everyone was raving as to how good he was. especially at T20 when he was teaming up with Tait and everyone was saying it was like watching Thomo and Lillee again. he has his variation balls, such as his cutters and slower ball and is a pretty good swing bowler, if it swings on the day. there isnt many in world cricket that can swing the ball at all anymore, its a bit of a disappointment.
he is still bloody fast, and i agree he can't really scare many batsman out anymore, but the odd 150-155 ball is nothing to laugh at. i like that he has slowed down because it offers that accuracy that we havent seen before and it offers that chance to have a faster ball and a slower ball. he hasnt gotten it back yet, but was using it in tests to perfection. a faster ball is more effective then a slower ball but is much harder to bowl.
i'm betting on him going well at the ashes. i like him, and so did a lot of other people, then suddenly everyone has just jumped off his boat without any evidence to prove he has gone bad.
he bowls no balls still, unlike other bowlers who have changed greatly since the free hit rule. its always been a problem of his.
i just find it funny that one year ago everyone was raving as to how good he was. especially at T20 when he was teaming up with Tait and everyone was saying it was like watching Thomo and Lillee again. he has his variation balls, such as his cutters and slower ball and is a pretty good swing bowler, if it swings on the day. there isnt many in world cricket that can swing the ball at all anymore, its a bit of a disappointment.
he is still bloody fast, and i agree he can't really scare many batsman out anymore, but the odd 150-155 ball is nothing to laugh at. i like that he has slowed down because it offers that accuracy that we havent seen before and it offers that chance to have a faster ball and a slower ball. he hasnt gotten it back yet, but was using it in tests to perfection. a faster ball is more effective then a slower ball but is much harder to bowl.
i'm betting on him going well at the ashes. i like him, and so did a lot of other people, then suddenly everyone has just jumped off his boat without any evidence to prove he has gone bad.