WHO/WHAT AM I

[looker-on]

An historical figure:

Century, gender, nationality, status/job/position?

 

[Richie]

around the 1600s
male
German
a theologian

 

[looker-on]

Might be Martin Luther.

 

[Richie]

Might be Martin Luther.

But it is not. He'd have been too easy, specially for a fellow German with good historical knowledge.

He did tho have an association with Luther.

 

[looker-on]

Did he have to do with the counter-reformation? Was that association a theological opposition?

 

[Richie]

Did he have to do with the counter-reformation? Was that association a theological opposition?

warm

 

[looker-on]

He was mainly opposed to Eck and Muentzer. Is it one of them?

 

[Richie]

He was mainly opposed to Eck and Muentzer. Is it one of them?

No neither.
He went from a Lutheran preacher to a Calvinist, a critic of Catholicism, then back to the Lutheran camp.

 

[looker-on]

No neither.
He went from a Lutheran preacher to a Calvinist, a critic of Catholicism, then back to the Lutheran camp.

Was he a nobleman, an academic, or a monk?

 

[Richie]

or a monk

He had been a Lutheran priest as I said. Was also a university chancellor. He did have a close association with Luther and a collaboration with Meunster too.

 

[looker-on]

Are you thinking of Philipp Melanchthon?

 

[Richie]

Philipp Melanchthon?

That sounds a French name. My guy is German, born in Wurzburg. He took the name of his birth town, big clue.

 

[looker-on]

That sounds a French name. My guy is German, born in Wurzburg. He took the name of his birth town, big clue.

Doesn't help. I'm clueless. There's no contemporary of Luther with the name of a town, is there. I reckon some of your instructions and clues are wrong or misleading.
Why is that guy remembered?

 

[Richie]

Andreas Rudolph Bodenstein von Karlstadt (1486 –1541)

 

[looker-on]

Never heard of him nor of Karlstadt. That's a veritable knowledge gap, I admit. Thanks for the inspiration. No idea why I've not heard of him although he was a central figure in Wittenberg and as a participant in the Leipzig Debate (and had premises in Woerlitz, a place I cherish very much).
How come you know him?

 

[Richie]

How come you know him?

I read about him in a Martin Luther biography.

 

[Richie]

I have another German historical figure for you that made a big noise with another achievement, this one that the church today would condemn.

 

[Grier]

Andreas Rudolph Bodenstein von Karlstadt (1486 –1541)

I would never had got Karlstadt but looked him up and was fascinated by his story. A contemporary of Luther and often at odds with him. I liked the way Luther put the screws on him when he hid with him during the Peasant revolution. It was Theology up for grabs. Blinking Iconoclasts smashing statues was like a scene out of Monty Python's life of Brian. "We're the peoples western iconoclastic front of Hamburg!"

 

[Richie]

I would never had got Karlstadt but looked him up and was fascinated by his story. A contemporary of Luther and often at odds with him. I liked the way Luther put the screws on him when he hid with him during the Peasant revolution. It was Theology up for grabs. Blinking Iconoclasts smashing statues was like a scene out of Monty Python's life of Brian. "We're the peoples western iconoclastic front of Hamburg!"

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Like something Trump and his 'redreck' followers may do too.

 

[looker-on]

I would never had got Karlstadt but looked him up and was fascinated by his story. A contemporary of Luther and often at odds with him. I liked the way Luther put the screws on him when he hid with him during the Peasant revolution. It was Theology up for grabs. Blinking Iconoclasts smashing statues was like a scene out of Monty Python's life of Brian. "We're the peoples western iconoclastic front of Hamburg!"

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Interesting post, Terry. Thanks.