Wrist Spin Bowling (part Five)

S slingylefty So, reading through recent messages, your still working on your approach and action through the crease? Are you still trying to come to the crease at a fair speed - more "MacGill" than "Warne"? I liked your point relating to flight and loop, what I'd say about this is...
Personally, I think this is the Holy Grail of wrist-spin, the ability to bowl at a decent pace but with crazy revs on the ball. Warne for instance I think bowled at an average pace of around 57 mph. When you think that his initial flight was above the eye-line of the batsman and yet it dropped well short of where they expected. What's going on? If you read accounts of batters facing him and similar with Abdul Qadir, they say, the line would have suggested a fullish ball, but then it just falls out of the sky way short of where you've predicted. Connected to this and overall development, I really don't rate the Googly as an early option for a variation to bowl, I think it's way too fraught with problems (Googly Syndrome) and a far better option is the Top-Spinner. One of the reasons for advocating so strongly for the Top-Spinner is that it encourages the development of spinning the ball harder in order that you look for that dip that's spoken about when facing Warne and Qadir. My own experience is that once you've got the Top-Spinner under your belt, the Googly is only a subtle change of the wrist and comes relatively easy without focusing any practice on it. In the same way a small leg-break is as easily executed as a change up with only subtle changes in the wrist and because the emphasis is on the over-spin and dip it is very different to your big turning leg-break. Having the ability to get the ball to dip with increased revs is very much a game changer.

Another up-shot of having the Top-Spinner as your second delivery as such, is that that ability to produce the small leg-break and the Googly with so much over-spin comes with such subtle changes in the wrist & your variations are not easily picked.

I think your current exploration of the stand-start drill might be fruitful in terms of reflecting on the need to run-in at speed. It'll be interesting to hear what conclusions you draw from it?
 
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S slingylefty So, reading through recent messages, your still working on your approach and action through the crease? Are you still trying to come to the crease at a fair speed - more "MacGill" than "Warne"? I liked your point relating to flight and loop, what I'd say about this is...
Personally, I think this is the Holy Grail of wrist-spin, the ability to bowl at a decent pace but with crazy revs on the ball. Warne for instance I think bowled at an average pace of around 57 mph. When you think that his initial flight was above the eye-line of the batsman and yet it dropped well short of where they expected. What's going on? If you read accounts of batters facing him and similar with Abdul Qadir, they say, the line would have suggested a fullish ball, but then it just falls out of the sky way short of where you've predicted. Connected to this and overall development, I really don't rate the Googly as an early option for a variation to bowl, I think it's way too fraught with problems (Googly Syndrome) and a far better option is the Top-Spinner. One of the reasons for advocating so strongly for the Top-Spinner is that it encourages the development of spinning the ball harder in order that you look for that dip that's spoken about when facing Warne and Qadir. My own experience is that once you've got the Top-Spinner under your belt, the Googly is only a subtle change of the wrist and comes relatively easy without focusing any practice on it. In the same way a small leg-break is as easily executed as a change up with only subtle changes in the wrist and because the emphasis is on the over-spin and dip it is very different to your big turning leg-break. Having the ability to get the ball to dip with increased revs is very much a game changer.

Another up-shot of having the Top-Spinner as your second delivery as such, is that that ability to produce the small leg-break and the Googly with so much over-spin comes with such subtle changes in the wrist & your variations are not easily picked.

I think your current exploration of the stand-start drill might be fruitful in terms of reflecting on the need to run-in at speed. It'll be interesting to hear what conclusions you draw from it?

I’d call that the holy grail of spin in general to be honest.

I’ve been working hard on being able to bowl my off-spin at a good pace while being able to keep some topspin on the ball. I’m getting a lot better at it through practice thankfully because I’m getting a lot of chances to bowl on turf wickets which I have to bowl a bit quicker on than I’ve always bowled.

I got a caught and bowled in a scratch match today by bowling a good top spinner to a lefty that was slogging me, he set up to slog, noticed it was a slightly different pace, went to check drive it, it dipped on him and didn’t turn away (I was managing to absolutely rag it sideways on my stock ball) and he chipped it straight to me. Love getting wickets like that.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, being able to get a batsman out in the air is a more useful skill than getting them out off the wicket. Speed variation and dip are way more consistent in all conditions than turn is. Turn definitely helps if it’s there but even then, beating someone in flight makes it way easier to beat them off the pitch too.
 
S slingylefty So, reading through recent messages, your still working on your approach and action through the crease? Are you still trying to come to the crease at a fair speed - more "MacGill" than "Warne"? I liked your point relating to flight and loop, what I'd say about this is...
Personally, I think this is the Holy Grail of wrist-spin, the ability to bowl at a decent pace but with crazy revs on the ball. Warne for instance I think bowled at an average pace of around 57 mph. When you think that his initial flight was above the eye-line of the batsman and yet it dropped well short of where they expected. What's going on? If you read accounts of batters facing him and similar with Abdul Qadir, they say, the line would have suggested a fullish ball, but then it just falls out of the sky way short of where you've predicted. Connected to this and overall development, I really don't rate the Googly as an early option for a variation to bowl, I think it's way too fraught with problems (Googly Syndrome) and a far better option is the Top-Spinner. One of the reasons for advocating so strongly for the Top-Spinner is that it encourages the development of spinning the ball harder in order that you look for that dip that's spoken about when facing Warne and Qadir. My own experience is that once you've got the Top-Spinner under your belt, the Googly is only a subtle change of the wrist and comes relatively easy without focusing any practice on it. In the same way a small leg-break is as easily executed as a change up with only subtle changes in the wrist and because the emphasis is on the over-spin and dip it is very different to your big turning leg-break. Having the ability to get the ball to dip with increased revs is very much a game changer.

Another up-shot of having the Top-Spinner as your second delivery as such, is that that ability to produce the small leg-break and the Googly with so much over-spin comes with such subtle changes in the wrist & your variations are not easily picked.

I think your current exploration of the stand-start drill might be fruitful in terms of reflecting on the need to run-in at speed. It'll be interesting to hear what conclusions you draw from it?
someblokecalleddave someblokecalleddave - I am still working on my new approach. I am walking in a few steps (like Warne) but coming in diagonally to the crease. This approach from the side is what is getting me consistently side on at load up. Once I am at the side on position, I plant my front foot across, transfer body weight (head) to be over the line of front foot and then proceed to pivot and deliver. I am also trying to slow down a bit so that I can finish ripping the ball. My videos showed clearly I am letting the ball go without fully ripping it.
The only thing from McGill's bowling video that I am incorporating was the body pivot. As he mentions in his masterclass, I am imagining a box that I need to get my back leg over. Doing this is ensuring a full pivot. The stand-start drill for me is essentially an exercise to get the pivot going. I am currently doing that in my garage in front of a mirror.
Unfortunately, our nets aren't fully ready. They were supposed to be done with the work by the 1st but the contractor had delays and it is now slated to reopen on the 10th. I already lost 2 weeks and I am spending this down time practicing the pivot and ripping the ball in hand.
I had an umpiring assignment last weekend. It was a high scoring match. Both teams scored 200+ runs in 20 overs and the match went down to the last ball. With 3 needed off 1 ball, the fielder misjudged a catch and the ball went over his head for a 4. It was very stressful for me as an umpire because fights and arguments broke off regularily and 11 players screaming at me for every appeal. I literally had to stop a fight between 2 players :) Due to a very dry September, the ground was bone dry and any shot hit over the 30 yard line was a definite boundary. All bowlers got tonked except one off spinner. He amazingly stuck to one simple mantra - flight the ball slowly so that it induces a dip and land it just outside the off stump. Batsmen really seemed to have no clue on how to attack him. He bagged 3 wickets, 2 from outside edges from ugly swipes across the line and one for a LBW off a switch hit. It was great to watch this from the other end of the pitch. His spell proved to be the difference between winning and losing sides.
 
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