Wrist Spin Bowling (part Five)

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Back in nets today after a 4 week vacation. It went surprisingly well given this long break. It's amazing how much psychological boost we get if the first ball of the day lands at the right spot :) I did not rip the first ball fully but it had decent flight and landed just outside off at a perfect length. I pretty much followed that up with about 70% deliveries landing consistently. Overall, a very satisfying nets session (bowled 5 overs). I am almost certain to start playing matches starting next month, my Captain confirmed.
One minor observation - if I raise the front arm higher and delay it by a fraction of second, it is helping me to complete the pivot of the back foot and improve flight & accuracy. Now, I am not able to pull it off every delivery and sometimes I rush it. If I am conscious about doing that, I am fine. I need to really bake that in my muscle memory. I will keep doing this drill in front of the mirror in my garage.
 
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Nice one. What's your thoughts on that in terms of your rationale? To me that looks like a pretty aggressive field with some safety built in. To me that looks like you're going to be bowling for the most part a leg-stump line or there-abouts and you're looking for as many wicket options as possible if you've got the ability to bowl a nice tight line and length. Then if it does go awry, you've got some protection on the leg-side, this is pretty much if I let a captain set a field for me, they'd do something very similar and generally I'd be happy - especially with the slip. Does the slip stay for the entire spell, or would you move them once you got a look how much the ball is turning? With me most captains would allow the slip initially, but they usually get them out dependent of how well I'm bowling and move them elsewhere. I guess what I want to ask is how accurate is you're bowling these days - is this field in part set to negate some bad balls? Or are you looking to encourage the big shots on the leg-side? Do you look at your stats during the season and do you know whether your selectors/captain are looking at them and what do they feel is important - what did you feel was important average, economy or strike rate?
 
slingylefty said:
Back in nets today after a 4 week vacation. It went surprisingly well given this long break. It's amazing how much psychological boost we get if the first ball of the day lands at the right spot :) I did not rip the first ball fully but it had decent flight and landed just outside off at a perfect length. I pretty much followed that up with about 70% deliveries landing consistently. Overall, a very satisfying nets session (bowled 5 overs). I am almost certain to start playing matches starting next month, my Captain confirmed.
One minor observation - if I raise the front arm higher and delay it by a fraction of second, it is helping me to complete the pivot of the back foot and improve flight & accuracy. Now, I am not able to pull it off every delivery and sometimes I rush it. If I am conscious about doing that, I am fine. I need to really bake that in my muscle memory. I will keep doing this drill in front of the mirror in my garage.
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Slingy -what format will you be playing?
 
Leggy88 Leggy88 More Q's! I noted that in order to get longer games and therefore access to proper grass wickets your working on your batting. Batsmen for the most part as far as I'm concerned talk a lot of B*****s in the context of facing spin, but it'll be interesting to hear your perspective as you're now
"Poacher turned game-keeper". When a R/A wrist-spinner shows up for a spelll when you're batting (1). What's the most likely mode of dismissal is he going to get you with and why? (2). What's your 2 go to shots that are going to get you off strike or more than singles?
 
How do we all bowl in the nets? I'll explain what I do and this kind of is dictated by Philpotts mantra around "Serious, positive and purposeful" or "Perfect practice". I find net sessions with batters looking to slog me out of the park a bit of a joke because no-one knows whether there's a fielder there, so I show up with a diagram of a field with my field placements and show the batters and say 'Look mate, you tell me when you've hit it whether you feel that's probably been caught and be honest about it' and then I say 'Play me as though you're a middle order batter and you're looking to score runs with a degree of risk taking' - the more serious ones play along with it. My approach is, I give them 20 deliveries and I've got to get them out in those 20 deliveries ideally under 10. I do the Shane Warne thing where I try and few different lines and try and asceratain their strengths and weaknesses and then look to exploit the weakness. It's very rare that I've not got them within the 20 balls, I think last season it happened once or twice, generally I get them much sooner within 15. In actual games This season (2025) my strike rate was 16.83 in games and all time at the club, including really poor years and there's been a fair few it was 32.89. But 2024 - SR 22.11; 2023 - SR 16.96; 2022 SR 18.95; 2021 - SR 22.33. Do you all look at your strike rates or the other indicaters of how well you bowl?
 
SomeblokecalledDave. said:
Nice one. What's your thoughts on that in terms of your rationale? To me that looks like a pretty aggressive field with some safety built in. To me that looks like you're going to be bowling for the most part a leg-stump line or there-abouts and you're looking for as many wicket options as possible if you've got the ability to bowl a nice tight line and length. Then if it does go awry, you've got some protection on the leg-side, this is pretty much if I let a captain set a field for me, they'd do something very similar and generally I'd be happy - especially with the slip. Does the slip stay for the entire spell, or would you move them once you got a look how much the ball is turning? With me most captains would allow the slip initially, but they usually get them out dependent of how well I'm bowling and move them elsewhere. I guess what I want to ask is how accurate is you're bowling these days - is this field in part set to negate some bad balls? Or are you looking to encourage the big shots on the leg-side? Do you look at your stats during the season and do you know whether your selectors/captain are looking at them and what do they feel is important - what did you feel was important average, economy or strike rate?
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I'd say for that field I'd be trying to operate on middle stump, get the batter trying to work it through the leg side or straight and then nick to slip or miss it and get bowled, with the occasional wide one thrown out there to tempt them into a big cover drive to short cover. Short cover is also there for the leading edge, I'd actually say short cover is my most successful field placing in terms of amount of catches, my bowling just seems to cause a lot of batters to hit it there. What would you say is your most successful field placing Dave?

Yeah generally slip would stay for the whole spell, unless the ball is not turning at all. Currently I'm bowling accurately enough to land the ball in line with the stumps most of the time, with slightly varying lengths but generally a decent length. My bad ball (of which there may be one an over) is slightly shorter and slightly down leg side, and therefore I have the deep backward square to counter that.

I'd definitely encourage big shots on the leg side like the sweep or just the simple slog, thats why I have the fly slip/short third man, because I find with batters who do that, after a while one will pitch a little shorter than expected, and they will get a thick outside edge to that catcher. I feel like volume of wickets is the most important thing for the selectors to see, which has sadly eluded me thus far this season, but I've got to be patient, for it is not due to me bowling badly, just due to lack of opportunity and lack of luck (so many catches dropped, lbw appeals, etc). I also feel economy is important to them, but this is not really something I focus on too much as if I bowl one bad ball an over, the figures get a bit inflated, and then you combine that with misfields etc, your economy really gets ruined.
 
SomeblokecalledDave. said:
Leggy88 Leggy88 More Q's! I noted that in order to get longer games and therefore access to proper grass wickets your working on your batting. Batsmen for the most part as far as I'm concerned talk a lot of B*****s in the context of facing spin, but it'll be interesting to hear your perspective as you're now
"Poacher turned game-keeper". When a R/A wrist-spinner shows up for a spelll when you're batting (1). What's the most likely mode of dismissal is he going to get you with and why? (2). What's your 2 go to shots that are going to get you off strike or more than singles?
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1: my most likely mode of dismissal would probably be an edge to slip trying to drive through the covers, but this is more due to a problem with my batting where I am not as good at driving spin as I struggle to get right to the pitch of it sometimes.

2: my two go to shots are definitely the cut and the pull, the pull more so for boundaries, and the cut for singles but occasionally more. This is because I feel the safest way to play a good leg spinner is to wait on the backfoot unless it is quite full, and then you can wait for the turn and you should have enough room to cut it once it turns if he doesn't pitch it on exactly the right line. These backfoot shots are definitely my strengths, for example you will never really see me dance down the wicket and hit it over his head. Instead I wait for the bad ball, which is definitely an effective method when most spinners bowl 1-2 bad balls an over (at least).
 
SomeblokecalledDave. said:
How do we all bowl in the nets? I'll explain what I do and this kind of is dictated by Philpotts mantra around "Serious, positive and purposeful" or "Perfect practice". I find net sessions with batters looking to slog me out of the park a bit of a joke because no-one knows whether there's a fielder there, so I show up with a diagram of a field with my field placements and show the batters and say 'Look mate, you tell me when you've hit it whether you feel that's probably been caught and be honest about it' and then I say 'Play me as though you're a middle order batter and you're looking to score runs with a degree of risk taking' - the more serious ones play along with it. My approach is, I give them 20 deliveries and I've got to get them out in those 20 deliveries ideally under 10. I do the Shane Warne thing where I try and few different lines and try and asceratain their strengths and weaknesses and then look to exploit the weakness. It's very rare that I've not got them within the 20 balls, I think last season it happened once or twice, generally I get them much sooner within 15. In actual games This season (2025) my strike rate was 16.83 in games and all time at the club, including really poor years and there's been a fair few it was 32.89. But 2024 - SR 22.11; 2023 - SR 16.96; 2022 SR 18.95; 2021 - SR 22.33. Do you all look at your strike rates or the other indicaters of how well you bowl?
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Wow Dave that is a really incredible strike rate. I personally love looking at the strike rate, I think it is the most valuable stat for the impact you have on the game as a leg spinner, however though when playing on synthetic my strike rate generally balloons to around 30, but when playing turf it used to be around 20, so strike rate is not something I look for that much at the moment (at least until I'm back on turf). I'm more concerned with if I'm landing it where I want it, and if I feel it's coming out well (with lots of revs), instead of the results, which can definitely be quite discouraging on synthetic wickets.

I don't so much bowl with a field to the batters in the nets (though I think it could be something I'll try), I just try and make sure every ball I bowl counts, and is purposeful, and I 100% concentrate on where I want it to go. Whatever the batter does with it is irrelevant in my mind. Yeah the Warne thing is good to do I reckon, but what do you do if you, say, meant to bowl it on fifth stump line but put it on off stump? Do you try again next ball or do you rearrange your over?
 


Here is an analysis done by Ashwin & Jarrod Kimber on why India is struggling in Test Cricket. I love Jarrod and his analysis and Ashwin is also a good thinking Cricketer. This was very good in the way they broke down various tricks of spin bowling, analyzed how things changed over time with WTC and the pitches and of course, the batsmen. Good watch.
 
Played my first match after 6 months yesterday. We were up against defending champions (we lost by 1 run in the Finals last season). This match also went down the wire and we won by 4 runs. Unfortunately, I did not debut as a leg spinner as expected. My Captain said that the match is getting too close to bring me. That means I was relegated to fielding. The only reasonable contribution I had was a full blooded dive in the first slip to stop a definite Four but I sprained my glute as a result of that. A subtle reminder that I should not be doing these at the age of 48 :)
It is disappointing to not get any bowling but I told myself that I am in this for the long haul and will bide my time. Until then, I will keep practicing. Everyone who is playing me in nets are saying I am totally match ready. That was how my Captain convinced me to play yesterday's match in the first place (but all the assurances of backing me up to bowl went out of the window once the match started).
 
slingylefty said:
Played my first match after 6 months yesterday. We were up against defending champions (we lost by 1 run in the Finals last season). This match also went down the wire and we won by 4 runs. Unfortunately, I did not debut as a leg spinner as expected. My Captain said that the match is getting too close to bring me. That means I was relegated to fielding. The only reasonable contribution I had was a full blooded dive in the first slip to stop a definite Four but I sprained my glute as a result of that. A subtle reminder that I should not be doing these at the age of 48 :)
It is disappointing to not get any bowling but I told myself that I am in this for the long haul and will bide my time. Until then, I will keep practicing. Everyone who is playing me in nets are saying I am totally match ready. That was how my Captain convinced me to play yesterday's match in the first place (but all the assurances of backing me up to bowl went out of the window once the match started).
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Yeah man. I like your mindset, stay positive, only worry about the things you can control. Sometimes captains can be very frustrating, I get it.
 
Leggy88 said:
Wow Dave that is a really incredible strike rate. I personally love looking at the strike rate, I think it is the most valuable stat for the impact you have on the game as a leg spinner, however though when playing on synthetic my strike rate generally balloons to around 30, but when playing turf it used to be around 20, so strike rate is not something I look for that much at the moment (at least until I'm back on turf). I'm more concerned with if I'm landing it where I want it, and if I feel it's coming out well (with lots of revs), instead of the results, which can definitely be quite discouraging on synthetic wickets.

I don't so much bowl with a field to the batters in the nets (though I think it could be something I'll try), I just try and make sure every ball I bowl counts, and is purposeful, and I 100% concentrate on where I want it to go. Whatever the batter does with it is irrelevant in my mind. Yeah the Warne thing is good to do I reckon, but what do you do if you, say, meant to bowl it on fifth stump line but put it on off stump? Do you try again next ball or do you rearrange your over?
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"but what do you do if you, say, meant to bowl it on fifth stump line but put it on off stump? Do you try again next ball or do you rearrange your over"? That would have bothered me years ago, but for some reason I just realise that it's an anomally. It used to really weigh on my mind some years ago, but I honestly think that was down to the fact that no-one had any confidence in me including captains and I got dropped - you've probably heard the story previously. That was when I turned to the flipper and reduced the need for the wickets to be a result of someone else's input... wicket keepers catchers in the field. Then I started getting... 'bowled', LBW and caught by keepers and my economy improved. With that, people started to recognise that I could bowl and the psychology changed. Our club had a massive 'Clean out' of people with a really bad attitude including racists and then we had a massive influx of Indian players and since then the club has gone from strength to strenth and a lot the Indian lads really rate my bowling and so my confidence has grown massively and they believe in my abilities and I've just got so much better. So, now if I bowl a bad ball like that I shrug it off. To reinforce that as being an actual thing I had to play in a game with a captain who despite what he says - I just know he doesn't rate me and in that game I bowled poorly. Your team have to believe in your abilities and I now get brought on when it's 'Do or die' situations because they actually think 'If anyone is going to force this bloke to make an error it'll be Dave' and these are sometimes well set players seeing the ball. Sometimes it works other times it doesn't but the belief is there. It's such an asset.
 
SomeblokecalledDave. said:
"but what do you do if you, say, meant to bowl it on fifth stump line but put it on off stump? Do you try again next ball or do you rearrange your over"? That would have bothered me years ago, but for some reason I just realise that it's an anomally. It used to really weigh on my mind some years ago, but I honestly think that was down to the fact that no-one had any confidence in me including captains and I got dropped - you've probably heard the story previously. That was when I turned to the flipper and reduced the need for the wickets to be a result of someone else's input... wicket keepers catchers in the field. Then I started getting... 'bowled', LBW and caught by keepers and my economy improved. With that, people started to recognise that I could bowl and the psychology changed. Our club had a massive 'Clean out' of people with a really bad attitude including racists and then we had a massive influx of Indian players and since then the club has gone from strength to strenth and a lot the Indian lads really rate my bowling and so my confidence has grown massively and they believe in my abilities and I've just got so much better. So, now if I bowl a bad ball like that I shrug it off. To reinforce that as being an actual thing I had to play in a game with a captain who despite what he says - I just know he doesn't rate me and in that game I bowled poorly. Your team have to believe in your abilities and I now get brought on when it's 'Do or die' situations because they actually think 'If anyone is going to force this bloke to make an error it'll be Dave' and these are sometimes well set players seeing the ball. Sometimes it works other times it doesn't but the belief is there. It's such an asset.
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someblokecalleddave someblokecalleddave - I spent some time over the winter break going through part 1 of this thread and I see how you evolved your flipper and there was a lot of discussion about that. I am very interested in adding that to my arsenal but want to hone my standard variations before doing that. I use Warne grip (2 fingers up and 2 fingers down with thumb not on the ball) and it feels a bit unnatural to me to put the thumb in (to practice the flipper). With thumb being the primary generator of back spin, I wonder if Warne decides to bowl a flipper before his delivery stride or he magically brings in the thumb at the last minute to deliver the flipper? What is your grip? Do you place your thumb always on the ball?

I am just over 6 months into this leg spin journey and now I can decently bowl my variations (standard leg break, top spin and wrong one). The wrong one comes a bit flat and sometimes lands short and I think it is due to the fact that I am rushing my delivery. It is mostly a mental adjustment that I need to make and always remind myself to "think high and spin up". Being a left arm wrist spinner bowling to right handed batsmen, I am finding it that top spin causes a lot more trouble when I deliver it over the wicket. Bowling over the wicket, RHB seem to hit me across the line to cow corner and top spin induces a false shot.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, this thread and the previous parts are a treasure trove. I am like this curious kid going through a mountain of toys :) One comment from part 1 advised to think of kicking the arse with back leg. That was such a helpful tip for me. Now I am doing that and it improved my pivot, my shoulder goes a bit higher and generates nice flight. That has always been an issue for me where I would simply drag my back leg as supposed to pivot.
 
slingylefty said:
someblokecalleddave someblokecalleddave - I spent some time over the winter break going through part 1 of this thread and I see how you evolved your flipper and there was a lot of discussion about that. I am very interested in adding that to my arsenal but want to hone my standard variations before doing that. I use Warne grip (2 fingers up and 2 fingers down with thumb not on the ball) and it feels a bit unnatural to me to put the thumb in (to practice the flipper). With thumb being the primary generator of back spin, I wonder if Warne decides to bowl a flipper before his delivery stride or he magically brings in the thumb at the last minute to deliver the flipper? What is your grip? Do you place your thumb always on the ball?

I am just over 6 months into this leg spin journey and now I can decently bowl my variations (standard leg break, top spin and wrong one). The wrong one comes a bit flat and sometimes lands short and I think it is due to the fact that I am rushing my delivery. It is mostly a mental adjustment that I need to make and always remind myself to "think high and spin up". Being a left arm wrist spinner bowling to right handed batsmen, I am finding it that top spin causes a lot more trouble when I deliver it over the wicket. Bowling over the wicket, RHB seem to hit me across the line to cow corner and top spin induces a false shot.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, this thread and the previous parts are a treasure trove. I am like this curious kid going through a mountain of toys :) One comment from part 1 advised to think of kicking the arse with back leg. That was such a helpful tip for me. Now I am doing that and it improved my pivot, my shoulder goes a bit higher and generates nice flight. That has always been an issue for me where I would simply drag my back leg as supposed to pivot.
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I wouldn't over think this. At our level, assuming you're not playing against pro's, the nuances of the grip are going to be lost on 99% of batters. You have to keep in mind the majority of batters the most they know about the Flipper are that he was a Dolphin. You've only got to read some books and then go on-line and you'll soon discover the majority of people are talking out of their backsides when they're talking about the Flipper. My Flipper grip for the basic 'Basic back-spinner' is like a high in the fingers leg-break grip - so I have 3 fingers on the seam as such *If you follow this up and request it, I'll dig out an image of the grip, I'm sure I've got on on a drive somewhere... I've just found one on one of my blogs. It's pretty much this - and this is from an illustration on bowling the Top-Spinner using a high in the fingers grip. I reckon Warne would just walk in with it pre-set, no-one had a clue what he was doing, which is pretty much the same as me. In nearly 20 years of bowling this stuff, I've only ever had one bloke walk down the wicket to the other players and say 'He's bowling back-spinners' He didn't know what it was, only that it was spinning backwards. With other deliveries the thumb varies, but with my Top-Spinner, yeah the tumb is there and it plays its part in the delivery. "One comment from part 1 advised to think of kicking the arse with back leg". That was advice from the Legend that was 'Macca' from NSW, he knew what he was talking about, he was a great loss when he left the forum. He sent me Grimmetts 'Getting Wickets' and couple of other books he was a top bloke. I would say 6 months in you're probably trying to do too much, but you might be one of the gifted ones who all this comes to fairly easily? All that matters at the end of the day is you're getting picked, you get to bowl your overs allocation, you take wickets and you're loving it! 1769192995493.png
 
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I would say 6 months in you're probably trying to do too much
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You are definitely right, I am overzealous this past 6 months (and over analyzing too lol). But I am trying to perfect what I have currently (standard leg spinner, top spinner). Wrong 'un works but needs more practice as I am dropping short. It does serve as a good surprise delivery in nets when batsmen get surprised when it turns the other way even though it was landed short. I am using wrong 'un sparingly now. For now, the flipper itself can wait and it is not even in my mind.
Thanks for the confirmation and tip about thumb position for the top spinner. I bowled to a guy at nets this week whose only shot is swipe across the line but he is strong. If he connects, the ball will definitely clear the field but he was having trouble with my top spinners. My standard leg break (left arm) comes inside to him and he was happy whacking it. But when I bowled the top spinner, he could not judge the length as it dips. He later came to me and admitted he was not having confidence with the dip and bounce. I was reading an interview by Varun Chakravathy who mentioned that he started employing more over spin than side spin and he is more successful now.
Coming to the place in my team, I am quitting this team. For all the promises. I got nothing and it is frustrating to be on sidelines every time. I get it that the team is packed with super star players (at least they'd like to think so) but at the end of the day, we are not playing professionally. It is not worth spending 6 hours of my weekend just on fielding. I am now joining a new team in my league. This team has a good Srilankan contingent and couple of decent spinners. I often bowl to them in nets and their Captain is very excited to have me in the team. This team did not have a good record recently but half of their team left for various reasons and he is assembling a new team. I am pretty sure I will get more chances to play. Looking forward to the new season that starts next month.
 
slingylefty said:


Here is an analysis done by Ashwin & Jarrod Kimber on why India is struggling in Test Cricket. I love Jarrod and his analysis and Ashwin is also a good thinking Cricketer. This was very good in the way they broke down various tricks of spin bowling, analyzed how things changed over time with WTC and the pitches and of course, the batsmen. Good watch.
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slingylefty said:
You are definitely right, I am overzealous this past 6 months (and over analyzing too lol). But I am trying to perfect what I have currently (standard leg spinner, top spinner). Wrong 'un works but needs more practice as I am dropping short. It does serve as a good surprise delivery in nets when batsmen get surprised when it turns the other way even though it was landed short. I am using wrong 'un sparingly now. For now, the flipper itself can wait and it is not even in my mind.
Thanks for the confirmation and tip about thumb position for the top spinner. I bowled to a guy at nets this week whose only shot is swipe across the line but he is strong. If he connects, the ball will definitely clear the field but he was having trouble with my top spinners. My standard leg break (left arm) comes inside to him and he was happy whacking it. But when I bowled the top spinner, he could not judge the length as it dips. He later came to me and admitted he was not having confidence with the dip and bounce. I was reading an interview by Varun Chakravathy who mentioned that he started employing more over spin than side spin and he is more successful now.
Coming to the place in my team, I am quitting this team. For all the promises. I got nothing and it is frustrating to be on sidelines every time. I get it that the team is packed with super star players (at least they'd like to think so) but at the end of the day, we are not playing professionally. It is not worth spending 6 hours of my weekend just on fielding. I am now joining a new team in my league. This team has a good Srilankan contingent and couple of decent spinners. I often bowl to them in nets and their Captain is very excited to have me in the team. This team did not have a good record recently but half of their team left for various reasons and he is assembling a new team. I am pretty sure I will get more chances to play. Looking forward to the new season that starts next month.
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Currently my advice to anyone would be to add the Top-Spinner after you've reached the point where you're happy with your Leg-Break. They potentially look very similar at the point of release, but even if they come out slightly wrong and turn slightly, that's no big deal, the benefit as your bloke in the nets pointed out is the dip changes the length and it's a difficult ball to judge if they play forward to it to defend and it comes out with a bit of 'Leg' on it (I'm assuming this is to a lefty) you might get the edge to slips or it might clip the off-stump? Either way the batter has now another aspect to consider. With your Flipper - just have a ball or an apple or something around and just develop the spinning from hand to hand using the finger click - develop that clicking action first. Here it is being demo'd
 
SomeblokecalledDave. said:
"but what do you do if you, say, meant to bowl it on fifth stump line but put it on off stump? Do you try again next ball or do you rearrange your over"? That would have bothered me years ago, but for some reason I just realise that it's an anomally. It used to really weigh on my mind some years ago, but I honestly think that was down to the fact that no-one had any confidence in me including captains and I got dropped - you've probably heard the story previously. That was when I turned to the flipper and reduced the need for the wickets to be a result of someone else's input... wicket keepers catchers in the field. Then I started getting... 'bowled', LBW and caught by keepers and my economy improved. With that, people started to recognise that I could bowl and the psychology changed. Our club had a massive 'Clean out' of people with a really bad attitude including racists and then we had a massive influx of Indian players and since then the club has gone from strength to strenth and a lot the Indian lads really rate my bowling and so my confidence has grown massively and they believe in my abilities and I've just got so much better. So, now if I bowl a bad ball like that I shrug it off. To reinforce that as being an actual thing I had to play in a game with a captain who despite what he says - I just know he doesn't rate me and in that game I bowled poorly. Your team have to believe in your abilities and I now get brought on when it's 'Do or die' situations because they actually think 'If anyone is going to force this bloke to make an error it'll be Dave' and these are sometimes well set players seeing the ball. Sometimes it works other times it doesn't but the belief is there. It's such an asset.
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100% agree with what you said there mate. I reckon you just need to move on and put it in the past, focus on the next ball, keep executing the plan.
 
Anyone out there - especially those that read books and have some knowledge of wrist-spinnings developmental history. What's the earliest use of the term "Slider" that you're aware of and who was it used by and how did they claim it was executed. On the internet which is obviously full or claims not backed up by any research of any substance or direct connections with 1st class bowlers own practice, there seems to be at least 3 types which random people are describing which have never appeared in any of the books written on the subject. (1). A seam ball where you hold it like a leg break grip, but you don't flick the wrist you just roll it off the 2 'Up' fingers with a bit of back-spin. (2) Same 2 up 2 down wrist spin grip, again no snap/flick of the wrist and this time you don't even drag the fingers down to create back-spin you just 'Palm' it out of the front of the hand a bit like knuckle ball. (3) Which I've only ever seen Jeetan Patel execute and he's finger spinner. He's so precise it seems with his release that he's able to purposefully angle the ball with off-spin that the ball lands on the smooth side and creates the chance that it doesn't spin - it just skids on.
 
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