Should you stay or should you go!

Do you walk, if you know you're out?

  • Yes, I prefer to be honest

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  • If the umpire says I'm not out, I'm not out

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  • It depends on my mood

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Re: Should you stay or should you go!

so let the national scout see your lack of honesty?? - same difference to me I'm afraid! If it took the selector that one decision to make or break your career then you couldn't be that good - obviously a marginal player - so be a marginal player with integrity or a marginal player without??? :eek: its all a point of view!
 
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The wrong thing is that there are a few dishonest people who try to take advantage off people and may that turns some of them dishonest as well.
 
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ok this will be my final point - If in don Bradmans last game (he needed 4 for an average of 100 btw incase u didn't no, but evry1 knows that so i don't no y im writing this) he had scored 3, next ball he thinly nicked one through to the keeper. Umpire didn't raise the finger, Would SIR bradman have walked? And in all honestly would you?
 
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Well it would depend on how Sir Bradman played the game but I think Don Bradman was unaware that he needed 4 runs to take his average up to hundred. If I was in his shoes and that happened I wouldnt have walked.
 
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A better scenario would be if you need 2 runs off the last over to win the world cup and your the last batsman out there. Your best batsman was a victim of a bad decision. You get the faintest of edges on the ball the keeper and the bowler go up casually but the umpire disagrees. Would you still walk?
What would you rather live with? That you couldn't win the world cup for your country or you were dishonest. I think most would chose to not walk under this situtation and convince themselves that they had bad luck earlier in the game and when luck favoured them they accepted it.
 
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its an interesting scenario - and probably the most testing - thankfully I will never be in that situation - but knowing I'd hit it to win the World Cup - i'd know I'd cheated, the TV replays would know i'd cheated ... and the world at large would know i'd cheated with that final being the notorious 'didn't walk' final .... I'd honestly think I'd still walk - obviously if I wasn't completely sure myself then it is the umpires decision but honesty is best policy!
 
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I guess it's down to how tightly you adhere to the 'win at all costs' motto. If I didn't walk when I knew I was out, and I went on to make the difference between us winning and losing, I wouldn't be able to celebrate properly, because deep down I'd know that I had to cheat to win, and at the end of the day, I don't play to win at all costs. I play for fun and the love of the game.
There was a moment last season that was a great example of this - it was down to the last ball of the game, and the other team needed four to win. Our bowler charged in, bowled a rank long hop and it was hooked away for what looked like an easy one-bounce four. I was on the rope, and made a full-stretch dive for the ball, and got a solid hand to the ball, but just couldn't stop it, and it rolled away over the boundary for the winning runs. I actually landed with my right foot touching the rope. The other team started celebrating, and our captain was livid, but I got to thinking:
If I had held the ball, would I have declared that my foot touched the rope? I'd like to think I would, no matter how much it would have infuriated my Captain. As I said earlier, I play for the love of the game, and if the other team were the better team on the day, then they deserved to win. As it was, there was nothing I could do to stop the ball, and that was that.
 
Re: Should you stay or should you go!

If there's an official umpire, I let him decide. If it's one of my team mates umpiring, i walk. Gamesmanship is what makes sport exciting!
 
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in our leagues certainly the higher divs as a club we have to provide one panel umpire!
 
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it's a hard topic this. As has been previously said would you give back change if a shopkeeper had given you too much? This happened last night to me, bought drinks for £5.10 and gave a 10 pound note and got £5.90 change, i noticed this and didn't say anything :embarrassed: . After all it is only a quid, but thats not the point is it? I guess at some point in this season as a bowler i will get decisions against me that will be shocking, so i won't walk if i edge one and don't get given out - simple as that.
 
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Wow, lively debate here!

I'm totally with Nightvision, basheypack and palley on this one -I couldn't live with knowing I'm a cheat.

I'll tell you a story... last november I was playing a relaxed indoor match with some club members and this new guy comes on to bowl, he's never played cricket before and has zero confidence. He's a really nice guy, really enthusiastic but not very talented. He throws down a few wild, flat, slow wides, I've been out of form with the bat since we started indoor training and I think to myself 'hello, time for some runs!' I hit a few nice shots then from around the wicket he lands it on middle and plants one right across me, I get the faintest of nicks to the keeper, so faint only I know -the keeper hasn;t even noticed! I didn't walk. And I felt so guilty. Shortly afterwards I decided to deliverately launch into wild swings at every delivery until I was finally caught out. Since then I have always walked because I don't want that feeling ever again.

If you have to cheat to win then on the day you didn't deserve to win. I play cricket for the excitement and rush it gives me being on the field and pushing myself to compete at my best, if my best isn't good enough (even if it's a world cup final ;)) then so be it, I didn't deserve to win.

phil2008, if winning is more important to you than how you win, fair enough that's how you play, but I couldn't enjoy cricket if I did that
 
Re: Should you stay or should you go!

and for the record, I have had bad decisions from biased umpires go against me (the plumbest lbws in the world!! :eek:) and I understand the frustration, but that's part of the game.

Interestingly I'm umpiring some of our cup matches this season... from that point of view I'd much prefer if everyone who was out walked!!!! :laugh: Is it fair to leave it to the umpire if they're not paid or a highly-skilled professional? Aren't you just dodging responsibility for your actions?
 
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