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Did you mean the other 44 or 45 players??
onlyonepaidpro@clubbers;226061 said:
Did you mean the other 44 or 45 players??
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I see Onas has stepped down as Skipper of Ajax.
Bit shaky after dropping 2 gf's in a row? Or did JW want a payrise?
I see Onas has stepped down as Skipper of Ajax.
Bit shaky after dropping 2 gf's in a row? Or did JW want a payrise?
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Great idea if its trueCheeQuee;226442 said:
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I think any player that gets payed should be putting something back into the club....be it coaching seniors/juniors or other things that move a club forward. Far too many blokes just get their cash and go.Which is all good and well when the money pot is full but when it runs dry the clubs up the creek.
NoBall;226434 said:Um, let me have a good hard think about this - perhaps to coach?
What's the fascination with a bloke having to play, in order to earn $$$?
If he's paid to coach, he's paid to coach - not play.
I think any player that gets payed should be putting something back into the club....be it coaching seniors/juniors or other things that move a club forward. Far too many blokes just get their cash and go.Which is all good and well when the money pot is full but when it runs dry the clubs up the creek.
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Yeh and what's your point? Bentleigh have got no players and they're paying a bloke who can't win them any games. The facination with paying a bloke to play is that he wins you matches and his team members learn from him first hand - funny how all the successful clubs in the VTCA operate this way, genius.
NoBall;226434 said:Um, let me have a good hard think about this - perhaps to coach?
What's the fascination with a bloke having to play, in order to earn $$$?
If he's paid to coach, he's paid to coach - not play.
Yeh and what's your point? Bentleigh have got no players and they're paying a bloke who can't win them any games. The facination with paying a bloke to play is that he wins you matches and his team members learn from him first hand - funny how all the successful clubs in the VTCA operate this way, genius.
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My point is that I'm sure there are benefits to be gained from a non-playing coach - to blanketly refuse to recognise that is plain ignorance on your behalf.
Why can't he win them any games? Surely paying someone to focus on developing other players, without having to worry about his own game, will lead to those players then delivering results on the park?
Does anyone learn anything from Baker at the Clubbers that they can then translate to their own game? Doubt it.
Hey, I hate Bentleigh as much as the next person, but you my friend need to get your head out of the clouds and think outside the square a little.
Cash Man;226491 said:
My point is that I'm sure there are benefits to be gained from a non-playing coach - to blanketly refuse to recognise that is plain ignorance on your behalf.
Why can't he win them any games? Surely paying someone to focus on developing other players, without having to worry about his own game, will lead to those players then delivering results on the park?
Does anyone learn anything from Baker at the Clubbers that they can then translate to their own game? Doubt it.
Hey, I hate Bentleigh as much as the next person, but you my friend need to get your head out of the clouds and think outside the square a little.
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Thanks.
Bakes has undoubted talent. My point is that translating that to some 15yo kid that wants to be a player is pretty damn hard. You either have Bakes ability, or you don't. Plenty of people could play alongside Bakes for ten years, and not improve their own game one little bit.
All I am doing is defending the role of a "coach", and your blindness to the usefulness of a non-playing coach. You are quite clearly confusing a professional player with a coach. In my eyes, they are worlds apart.
Cash Man;226500 said:
Thanks.
Bakes has undoubted talent. My point is that translating that to some 15yo kid that wants to be a player is pretty damn hard. You either have Bakes ability, or you don't. Plenty of people could play alongside Bakes for ten years, and not improve their own game one little bit.
All I am doing is defending the role of a "coach", and your blindness to the usefulness of a non-playing coach. You are quite clearly confusing a professional player with a coach. In my eyes, they are worlds apart.
TheNorthHasRuinedTheVTCA
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A non-playing coach is useful, but in our league with only '2' paid people allowed a playing coach is significantly better value for money, especially for a club like Bentleigh who are struggling for on field talent
NoBall;226513 said:
A non-playing coach is useful, but in our league with only '2' paid people allowed a playing coach is significantly better value for money, especially for a club like Bentleigh who are struggling for on field talent
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Ok, well your team can have Suisun and mine can have Bakes. Probably why the two teams don't play against one another, we'd smash you - they're worlds apart. You're a clown.
I'm not saying a non-playing coach is not useful, just that they are a waste of money in the VTCA when you can buy a 450 run or 25 wicket player that wins you matches. A VTCA club should be able to get their pro to coach or get a past player do it for free.
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Ok, well your team can have Suisun and mine can have Bakes. Probably why the two teams don't play against one another, we'd smash you - they're worlds apart. You're a clown.
I'm not saying a non-playing coach is not useful, just that they are a waste of money in the VTCA when you can buy a 450 run or 25 wicket player that wins you matches. A VTCA club should be able to get their pro to coach or get a past player do it for free.
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Didn't Yarraville Club get Tony East as their coach for this year? Thought that's what was said in an earlier post anyway. And Tony would be a non-playing coach...
Cash Man;226531 said:
Didn't Yarraville Club get Tony East as their coach for this year? Thought that's what was said in an earlier post anyway. And Tony would be a non-playing coach...
Javid Miandmum
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Are we talking about cricket or the circus on this website?
Onto 08/09 cricket matters, it would seem AWCC have been active recruiting in the the off-season and probably start favourites to win it.
Can DSCC and KCC or any other of the Senior Division sides provide an update on comings and goings? I would think pre-season should kick-off soon if it already hasn't for most teams.
NoBall;226553 said:
Are we talking about cricket or the circus on this website?
Onto 08/09 cricket matters, it would seem AWCC have been active recruiting in the the off-season and probably start favourites to win it.
Can DSCC and KCC or any other of the Senior Division sides provide an update on comings and goings? I would think pre-season should kick-off soon if it already hasn't for most teams.
been there done that
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AWCC surely would only have 2 paid players in their prospective line up The new YCCC??
Apart from Tocca, have YCCC lost any players for this season? And what about Doutta and Keilor?
At Spotty, we have secured Ash Robertson from Melb Uni. Looked pretty "lively" on Mon nite training. Should be a quality bowler in our comp. Also, a mate of a mate has emerged. Played over in Perth for the last 3 years. Don't know too much about him yet, but is a keeper/batsmen who played district or the equivalent in Perth.
Javid Miandmum;226554 said:
AWCC surely would only have 2 paid players in their prospective line up
The new YCCC??Apart from Tocca, have YCCC lost any players for this season? And what about Doutta and Keilor?
At Spotty, we have secured Ash Robertson from Melb Uni. Looked pretty "lively" on Mon nite training. Should be a quality bowler in our comp. Also, a mate of a mate has emerged. Played over in Perth for the last 3 years. Don't know too much about him yet, but is a keeper/batsmen who played district or the equivalent in Perth.
DizzyGillepsie
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what's the name of the pub where these "Monday night training sessions" are being held?
i forgot and it looks like I'll be behind the 8 ball again this season
been there done that;226557 said:AWCC surely would only have 2 paid players in their prospective line up
Apart from Tocca, have YCCC lost any players for this season? And what about Doutta and Keilor?
At Spotty, we have secured Ash Robertson from Melb Uni. Looked pretty "lively" on Mon nite training. Should be a quality bowler in our comp. Also, a mate of a mate has emerged. Played over in Perth for the last 3 years. Don't know too much about him yet, but is a keeper/batsmen who played district or the equivalent in Perth.
what's the name of the pub where these "Monday night training sessions" are being held?
i forgot and it looks like I'll be behind the 8 ball again this season
ItDontSpin
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Who you talking about here north?? i thought two sides went up from South A this year??
NorthClubsDontPayPlayers;225337 said:
Who you talking about here north?? i thought two sides went up from South A this year??
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