Why do we need a bowl-off?

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Re: Why do we need a bowl-off?

timmyj51;181704 said:
A parable: Two runners decide to run a race but it has to be finished by 6 0'clock. Runner A takes a 100 yard, 200 yard, lead but three feet from
the finish line the clock strikes 6. Race drawn! No winner, no loser! BS
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Exactly opposite. In baseball, there is no time limit on anything. For example, in theory a single inning itself could go on for 2 hours without anybody getting out. There is no way to predict timely finish of a baseball game. It shares this trait with only one other sport I think, tennis.

Or are you advocating a return to the days of cricket when there was no time limit - teams kept on playing till there was a winner? There was no easy way to predict start of next match, so if it was in a different city people they better pay attention to when the previous one was ending in order to buy tickets and schedule their work. Except that test matches used to end sometimes on some other quirky issues such as visiting team's ship schedule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Test_cricket_from_1877_to_1883

When the Test matches were played, for the first time a South Australian, George Giffen, was selected to play. The first Test saw the biggest crowds then on record: 16,500 on the Saturday; 20,000 on the Monday and 10,000 on the Tuesday. England had the better of a game that was drawn after the fourth day as Shaw's side needed to catch a steamship for New Zealand at 6.30pm. Chasing 277 Australia had made 127 for 3 by the end of the game.

Although the fourth Test was billed as being "timeless", in practice, because of Shaw's team's other engagements, the game could only last four days. After three days only 22 wickets had fallen, with the most notable performance being a Test-career best 149 for George Ulyett. The fourth day of the fourth Test was wiped out by rain, and so the Test was drawn. The Englishmen went to their other commitments, and the Australians set sail to England.
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But wait a second, I thought here you were an advocate for bringing modernity to cricket through variations like Twenty20, not go back to those old days. :confused:

Say, shouldn't you be on bigbaseball.com ?
 
Re: Why do we need a bowl-off?

timmyj51;181704 said:
A parable: Two runners decide to run a race but it has to be finished by 6 0'clock. Runner A takes a 100 yard, 200 yard, lead but three feet from
the finish line the clock strikes 6. Race drawn! No winner, no loser! BS
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He should have run quicker then. @|

Seriously, this has nothing to do with the topic. If you don't like the way that cricket decides the results of matches, then don't watch it. Most of the time, a draw or a tie can be a fitting way to end a game, there doesn't always have to be a winner. You're just being silly now.

If you want to watch sports where a winner is guaranteed, go watch Baseball, Ice Hockey, Basketball or any other sport where a winner must be decided upon. Cricket is obviously not for you.
 
Re: Why do we need a bowl-off?

"But wait a second, I thought here you were an advocate for bringing modernity to cricket through variations like Twenty20, not go back to those old days. :confused:"



Solution: make test matches ODIs. 200 total overs per side, per match.
If a team uses 150 overs in their first innings they can only bat 50 in
their second, or vice versa. Guaranteed a result, even with rain delays.
Compliments of: Timmyj Cricket Consulting Services Lld--"the world leader
in cricket innovation."
 
Re: Why do we need a bowl-off?

timmyj51;181823 said:
"But wait a second, I thought here you were an advocate for bringing modernity to cricket through variations like Twenty20, not go back to those old days. :confused:"



Solution: make test matches ODIs. 200 total overs per side, per match.
If a team uses 150 overs in their first innings they can only bat 50 in
their second, or vice versa. Guaranteed a result, even with rain delays.
Compliments of: Timmyj Cricket Consulting Services Lld--"the world leader
in cricket innovation."
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Timmyj Cricket Consulting Services Lld - The world leader in bulls*** and idiocy regarding everything.

(And spell "Ltd" right if you're trying to prove a point)
 
Re: Why do we need a bowl-off?

SouthSwans;181829 said:
Timmyj Cricket Consulting Services Lld - The world leader in bulls*** and idiocy regarding everything.



"Get used to the discourtesies of your familiars as you do to ugly
faces." --Gracian (16th c.)
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Re: Why do we need a bowl-off?

I think a bowl off is awesome in our new 20/20 format. Not only after so much suspense for the tie we then have shots at the stumps. I have experienced one in real life and the nervs around are great with the atmosphere electric. Not many bowlers can hit the stumps as they are being brought up to bowl outside off stump. Also, some bowlers are very stupid when it comes to the bowl off. I have seen bowlers running in holding the ball with the seam. Would u not bowl it across the seam so that swing is taken out of the equation?
 
Re: Why do we need a bowl-off?

Straight1 i think your a fool a bowl off should not be part of the game, this is cricket not lawn bowls, perhaps and extra over each or something but definantly not a bowl off as it isnt cricket, its just not cricket
 
Re: Why do we need a bowl-off?

breeno;193357 said:
some teams have strengths, if your strength isnt bowling its unfair
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Not hard to bowl a yorker to knock the stumps over.

If an international bowler can't do that . .
 
Re: Why do we need a bowl-off?

pupisgod;192947 said:
Straight1 i think your a fool a bowl off should not be part of the game, this is cricket not lawn bowls, perhaps and extra over each or something but definantly not a bowl off as it isnt cricket, its just not cricket
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Actually, it is cricket. Bowling is one of the skills, why not promote it.

Everyone is always whinging that the batter has all his way in 20-20 cricket, and the bowler's skill is lost.

Well here's a way for the bowler to settle the game.

I think its ironic and at the same time, great fun. @|
 
Re: Why do we need a bowl-off?

el-capitano;197174 said:
Actually, it is cricket. Bowling is one of the skills, why not promote it.

Everyone is always whinging that the batter has all his way in 20-20 cricket, and the bowler's skill is lost.

Well here's a way for the bowler to settle the game.

I think its ironic and at the same time, great fun. @|
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this coming from a Liverpool supporter? :rolleyes:

i'm still dirty about your FA Cup final win over the Hammers a few years back :mad:

...in a Penalty Shoot-Out.

Get rid of this lottery rubbish! :eek:
 
Re: Why do we need a bowl-off?

aussieman;197222 said:
this coming from a Liverpool supporter?

i'm still dirty about your FA Cup final win over the Hammers a few years back

...in a Penalty Shoot-Out.

Get rid of this lottery rubbish!
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Don't you know the rules for a Liverpool Cup Final.

'Arry has to start, then go off injured. Capt MBE will score at least one goal, the game will end up 3-3, go into extra time.

Whoever Liverpool is playing will have an excellent chance to win it during extra time but not take it, then it goes to Pens and we win! :D

Back on topic, I hate when people call it a lottery, because its not really. Just as in soccer, if the penalty taker has any skills at all, he should score 99% of the time, really the bowler, as an international contracted player should be good enough to bowl at a set of stumps and hit them.

If they're not good enough to do it, then they deserve to lose.

Its not a lottery, its a skill based challenge, and whoever cant do it loses.

Fair enough I think! ;)
 
Re: Why do we need a bowl-off?

I am not against a bowl off in twenty-20 matches. If one remembers, it afforded excitement to the outstanding India Pakistan match in the t-20 world cup final.
 
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If it is a series, a group match or any other match that CAN result in a tie then yes let their be ties, same with best of three series finals apart from the third match if it comes to that.

I don't like the hit the stumps rule, it's stupid. Soccer and Hockey at least their is another dimension - the goalie. Not just bowl to hit the stump..

In case of a tie I like the idea of over time, really don't give a crap if it is American. 5 overs each, 3 outs. That would be ideal but it may take too long so maybe the 2 overs 2 outs would be best because of time restraints, ie: getting too dark in a day game or too late in a day/night.
 
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