DVCA Off-Season 2023

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Ben Cousins

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bigMarn said:
They should've stayed with my cricket it is spot on for cricket.
For me what I want to know is when are we going to start having salary/points caps just like local footy an force clubs to develop there youth an not just try to buy success
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This upcoming season.

Type​
Category (Player)​
Description​

Points
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1​
Base

2nd Tier VMCU Affiliate​
  • Played juniors (regardless of higher level history) or only ever played seniors at the Club
  • Played in other equivalent associations below 1st X1 only
1​
2​

Lapsed

3rd Tier Premier
2nd Tier VSDCA​
  • Has not played cricket in the past 3 seasons. (excludes Type 1 player)

  • Played Premier or other State equivalent 3rd X1

  • Played VSDCA or other State equivalent 2nd XI.
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2​
3​
DVCA
2nd Tier Premier
1st Tier VSDCA
1st Tier VMCU Affiliate​
  • Played at another DVCA Club Shield X1.

  • Played Premier 2nd X1 or other State equivalent 2nd XI.

  • Played VSDCA 1st X1 or other State equivalent 1st XI.

  • Played 1st X1 in other equivalent associations
3​
4​
1st Tier Premier

Overseas​
  • Played Premier 1st X1 or other State equivalent 1st X1


  • Overseas Player
4​
5​
First Class​
  • First Class player
5​
 
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Ben Cousins

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DVCA - PLAYER POINTS SYSTEM

Supporting Documentation:


• Adoption of the system will commence in season 2023-24 and it will apply to players in Shield Grades only


• All players registered and playing with their club in season 2022-23, will commence season 2023-24 on 1 point only


• Players moving to new clubs in 2023-24 will attract points in accordance with the Category Type table


• Loyalty reward provisions allows for players on higher points to have their points reduced by 1 point for each season they remain at the club


• In the event of any subsequent movement to another DVCA Shield club beyond 2023/24, players’ loyalty reward time will be reset to zero and these players will then attract a Type 3 Category of 3 points


• Player points will be identified by clubs at the beginning of the season. It is anticipated that PlayHQ (My Cricket) will accommodate this data


• Clubs will have a cap of 20 points each match.


• Clubs breaching the cap will be deemed to have played an ineligible player.


• Note: Players returning to their junior or home club from a higher grade of cricket will only attract 1 point
 
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PremiersAgain

Active Member
Ben Cousins said:
DVCA - PLAYER POINTS SYSTEM

Supporting Documentation:


• Adoption of the system will commence in season 2023-24 and it will apply to players in Shield Grades only


• All players registered and playing with their club in season 2022-23, will commence season 2023-24 on 1 point only


• Players moving to new clubs in 2023-24 will attract points in accordance with the Category Type table


• Loyalty reward provisions allows for players on higher points to have their points reduced by 1 point for each season they remain at the club


• In the event of any subsequent movement to another DVCA Shield club beyond 2023/24, players’ loyalty reward time will be reset to zero and these players will then attract a Type 3 Category of 3 points


• Player points will be identified by clubs at the beginning of the season. It is anticipated that PlayHQ (My Cricket) will accommodate this data


• Clubs will have a cap of 20 points each match.


• Clubs breaching the cap will be deemed to have played an ineligible player.


• Note: Players returning to their junior or home club from a higher grade of cricket will only attract 1 point
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The most idiotic of all idiotic ideas the comp has come up with in their history.

We are trying to limit the amount of higher quality cricketers into our competition because of what reason exactly?

Can anybody explain to me where there has been such a problem with a club coming into a new season with an International cricketer, a couple of Shield cricketers, throw in a 1st XI Premier Cricketers and finally pinched a couple of rival players from within the competition?

All this has done has made it impossible for struggling clubs to rebuild their lists. If you are a bottom side of Mash Shield you cannot now recruit 5 new players who have played at other clubs last season.

We didn’t have a problem, however we knee jerked to change the rules because a few new clubs have deeper pockets than some of the old establishment. And good on them if they are in a better financial position to play good players. Isn’t that what we want to see, good players coming to the DVCA?

And finally aren’t the clubs supposed to vote on rule changes within the DVCA?
 
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BD47

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Reading above obviously Riverside have not got another " Rosbrook/Austin/Salm " in the pipeline for something like this to see the light of day.

As for 2 points for player who has played district 3rds or sub districts 2s, would've been better of served releasing this April 1st.

Local cricket has some enormous challenges ahead, restricting movement of players at any level isn't one of them.
 
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Savage RN

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PremiersAgain said:
The most idiotic of all idiotic ideas the comp has come up with in their history.

We are trying to limit the amount of higher quality cricketers into our competition because of what reason exactly?

Can anybody explain to me where there has been such a problem with a club coming into a new season with an International cricketer, a couple of Shield cricketers, throw in a 1st XI Premier Cricketers and finally pinched a couple of rival players from within the competition?

All this has done has made it impossible for struggling clubs to rebuild their lists. If you are a bottom side of Mash Shield you cannot now recruit 5 new players who have played at other clubs last season.

We didn’t have a problem, however we knee jerked to change the rules because a few new clubs have deeper pockets than some of the old establishment. And good on them if they are in a better financial position to play good players. Isn’t that what we want to see, good players coming to the DVCA?

And finally aren’t the clubs supposed to vote on rule changes within the DVCA?
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How often has this happened lol?
 
Artie Bucco

Artie Bucco

Active Member
_Blackhawk_ said:
I gotta agree with you here PA, this is a cure to a problem that does not exist. Clubs that don't have a huge juniors base are now and into the future put at a huge disadvantage in recruitment.
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Maybe clubs should invest in their junior program then big fella. Fancy being more concerned about youth coming through than the 4th XI. Anyone that gets their nose out of joint over this is looking at it all wrong.
 
Artie Bucco

Artie Bucco

Active Member
PremiersAgain said:
The most idiotic of all idiotic ideas the comp has come up with in their history.

We are trying to limit the amount of higher quality cricketers into our competition because of what reason exactly?

Can anybody explain to me where there has been such a problem with a club coming into a new season with an International cricketer, a couple of Shield cricketers, throw in a 1st XI Premier Cricketers and finally pinched a couple of rival players from within the competition?

All this has done has made it impossible for struggling clubs to rebuild their lists. If you are a bottom side of Mash Shield you cannot now recruit 5 new players who have played at other clubs last season.

We didn’t have a problem, however we knee jerked to change the rules because a few new clubs have deeper pockets than some of the old establishment. And good on them if they are in a better financial position to play good players. Isn’t that what we want to see, good players coming to the DVCA?

And finally aren’t the clubs supposed to vote on rule changes within the DVCA?
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What an exaggeration. Jump on BigFooty for conversations about list rebuilds. All this does is reward clubs for having a good junior program. Banyule the big winners obviously.
 
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bigMarn

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Ben Cousins said:
Maybe ask BigMarn as he asked the question originally.

Who is it going to impact with 20 points the cap this upcoming season anywhoo.
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only asked it because I've heard it around other clubs an leagues were weighing up the idea of bringing it in to force clubs to develop players so was curious if there'd been this talk in DVCA
 
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_Blackhawk_

Well-Known Member
Artie Bucco said:
Maybe clubs should invest in their junior program then big fella. Fancy being more concerned about youth coming through than the 4th XI. Anyone that gets their nose out of joint over this is looking at it all wrong.
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Spoken like a typical know nothing cricketer. For various reasons, there will always be clubs with big junior programs and clubs with small junior programs. Honestly if you don't get why this will disadvantage clubs, then I can't be stuffed wasting bits explaining it to you cos you'll never understand it and I don't have any crayons left to draw you a picture.
 
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Ben Cousins

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I agree with Artie some of the comments here are pretty laughable. I much prefer to have some sort of regulated system in place so that clubs can filter out the bul*** mercenary culture that happens in local sport.

I would hate to be trying to get up from Mash Shield with my mates/club and have a club spend bulk cash on a bunch of cash on a bunch of cowboys and win.
 
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The Long Room

Active Member
Ben Cousins said:
I agree with Artie some of the comments here are pretty laughable. I much prefer to have some sort of regulated system in place so that clubs can filter out the bul*** mercenary culture that happens in local sport.

I would hate to be trying to get up from Mash Shield with my mates/club and have a club spend bulk cash on a bunch of cash on a bunch of cowboys and win.
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That has evidentially not worked.. just ask Lower Plenty.
 
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PremiersAgain

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Artie Bucco said:
What an exaggeration. Jump on BigFooty for conversations about list rebuilds. All this does is reward clubs for having a good junior program. Banyule the big winners obviously.
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There is absolutely nothing surer that developing your juniors is the best way to rebuild a club. However this method takes a minimum of 8 years

Introducing a points cap is just an unnecessary rule change that is going to limit movement of good cricketers to our comp.
 
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Savage RN

Well-Known Member
PremiersAgain said:
There is absolutely nothing surer that developing your juniors is the best way to rebuild a club. However this method takes a minimum of 8 years

Introducing a points cap is just an unnecessary rule change that is going to limit movement of good cricketers to our comp.
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Is it though? How many clubs recruit more than 3-4 blokes from higher cricket/other clubs in one off season?
 
Artie Bucco

Artie Bucco

Active Member
_Blackhawk_ said:
Spoken like a typical know nothing cricketer. For various reasons, there will always be clubs with big junior programs and clubs with small junior programs. Honestly if you don't get why this will disadvantage clubs, then I can't be stuffed wasting bits explaining it to you cos you'll never understand it and I don't have any crayons left to draw you a picture.
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Yeah because people are too lazy to invest time and effort into building a good program. If player retention and juniors are prioritised then why would a 20 point cap be a problem for a team. If your club is disadvantaged by this then maybe the highlights the shortcomings of the club. And park the attempt at humour, your opinion of yourself is as inflated as your waistline.
 
_Blackhawk_

_Blackhawk_

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Artie Bucco said:
Yeah because people are too lazy to invest time and effort into building a good program. If player retention and juniors are prioritised then why would a 20 point cap be a problem for a team. If your club is disadvantaged by this then maybe the highlights the shortcomings of the club. And park the attempt at humour, your opinion of yourself is as inflated as your waistline.
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I don't think anyone is being lazy with regards to juniors, clubs are for the most part doing all they really can and I never said my club is disadvantaged and I actually don't think that is the case here. I also wasn't being funny, I was stating facts, but at least in the end I could lose weight, I don't place much hope in you getting smarter.
 
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