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eddiesmith;386501 said:Definately McDonald, a much better fielder, can field in slips as well which is a bonus in this current Aussie team, a more flexible batsman who has more experience at digging a team out of a hole and in recent times has shown he is suprisingly capable of scoring lots of quick runs at the death.
His bowling is extremely effective and is almost unplayable when on a pitch with some life in it and given the next world cup is in India where he would be sensational, its time they give him a run. I feel if he got a shot in NZ he would tear the Kiwis apart and take more wickets than Hopes could dream of
Boris;386533 said:The thing is McDonald is doing this for Victoria... not Australia. Of course the only way to find out is by trialing him in the side, but I don't think he has done enough domestically to get selected anyway, I mean he's in the outers of the squad but not first picked at all.
eddiesmith;386580 said:You are right, he hasnt done enough domestically, it doesnt matter that his record is miles better than Hopes at State level or that his test stats batting at no8 are just as good as Hopes ODI stats, nope, Hopes is simply better because is a QLDer
One thing is for sure looking at their T20 stats, Hopes is greatly overrated and should be nowhere near the Aussie side and McDonald should be, I really do wonder where the Hopes is great at T20 myth came from
eddiesmith;386580 said:You are right, he hasnt done enough domestically, it doesnt matter that his record is miles better than Hopes at State level or that his test stats batting at no8 are just as good as Hopes ODI stats, nope, Hopes is simply better because is a QLDer
One thing is for sure looking at their T20 stats, Hopes is greatly overrated and should be nowhere near the Aussie side and McDonald should be, I really do wonder where the Hopes is great at T20 myth came from
gbatman;386630 said:Compare both players in the preliminary big bash final. who carries their bat and makes a less tha run a ball 44 in T20... TBH i would nearly consider Steve Smith ahead of Hopes. I'd love to know McDonalds stats over the last 2 season for all forms, he's a much improved player.
Boris;386704 said:Stats can't be used for Hopes when comparing him to someone that gets the chance to bat higher in a line up that McDonald can be placed higher up in. If he was playing for Queensland when Hopes started he would have been batting at 10 such was the strength of it. If he was playing for Australia he would be batting 7 or 8. If McDonald was bowling for Queensland when Hopes was he would struggle to get the ball with Kasper, Bichel and Nofke all battling for the ball themselves. Hopes got inconsistent overs if he got a game at all. If McDonald was bowling for Australia he would be bowling in the middle overs and as an economy rate depressor. Therefore same figures from a similar bowler.
eddiesmith;386707 said:Very funny stuff indeed, you seem to act as if McDonald and Hopes are so different, yet they are alike, except for stats where McDonald is superior in every way
You point out his T20 batting stats and make excuses, except ignoring the fact that he mostly opens when playing for QLD in T20 cricket, so no he doesnt just have a few overs to hit at the end as McDonald does being in the strongest T20 batting lineup in the world, yet he still manages to hit more runs than Hopes who has a full 20 overs to bat
As for bowling, the 2 are no different to the way they are used yet McDonald manages to get more wickets because he bowls stump to stump, frustrates the batsmen into doing something stupid or simply beats them with good bowling, he keeps the pressure on during the middle overs unlike Hopes who they can keep their score ticking along when he is on, McDonald wouldnt have gone wicketless today