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Damn Hussey is in that form we expect him to be in. Let's see if he can go for four 50s in a row and at number 3 too.

How many times has Ponting opened? I haven't seen it myself personally, but then again I didn't look as closely into games a few years ago as I do now.
 
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Only the second time he opened I think, wasn't a bad move IMO, leading from the front. We were probably about 30 runs short on that wicket, once again when Ponting gets out we seem to lose our way. Further emphasising the unhealthy reliance we seem to have on Ponting when we bat.

That is concerning, not just for when when he retires in the next few years but also what happens if he misses out which all batsmen eventually do.

Overall, i think it was a solid effort by the Australians considering the injury list. That partnership was just too good.

Not sure why Henriques is playing, would have thought Andrew McDonald would have been a better choice.

Not sure our pace bowlers know how to bowl on these low and slow decks, you really need to cut the ball and bowl stump to stump aiming primarily for LBW's and bowled.

2-1 down so we need to win the next ODI.

Its a lot easier to com in at 3/130 if your a cameron white or a adam voges then it is to come it at 2/20 or 3/30.
 
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I still prefer Ponting at number 3, prefer an actual opener there, but they way he is at the moment I don't think it matters where he bats. Gotta love Hussey as well though.

Also goes to show what happens when you don't have a bowler like Hopes in the side to keep things economical and yet unpredictable, then the hit and miss, but mostly hit, Lee to get the wickets. If Henriques is to play he really has to understand his role in the side isn't to be the one blowing over the stumps every ball, but to do what Hopes does and make sure absolutely no runs are scored, and let the wickets come to you.
 
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Ponting has often been coming in early anyway, more often than not of late we have been losing an early wicket, Ponting might as well come in first. There is always a risk going in first with the new ball that your going to get one that is just to good, but Ponting is by far the most accomplished batsmen in the team, if he gets a start then it comes exponetially easier for those behind him.

Putting in Marsh to open isnt the time or place for that, he is still yet to establish his place in the team, putting him in to open when he hasn't played cricket for sometime in foreign conditions won't do him any good.

If you want to play Marsh play him lower down.

The extras were also disgraceful, we gave away to many free runs through noballs and wides, you can excuse Manou for the byes because he was just off a plane in relatively unfamilar conditions.

The dew was a problem, and we have to consider whether we should bowl first if we win the toss, although it does appear it can be hit and miss whether or not the dew arrives.

But if it does, it makes bowling very difficult, the spinners cannot grip the ball, i dont think people realise how bad the dew can get in India.
 
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That's the thing though, you need someone like Ponting in number three for just that reason. It is inevitable that in a series against a good team that you are going to lose an early wicket at least 50% of the time. Teams take that into account. You are facing quite regularly the team's best bowlers at their fittest so something has to fall. That's where number 3 comes in, a batsman good enough to practically open or to come in when it is the equivalent to number 5 coming in under normal conditions if the openers get a 100 run or more stand.

It's lucky to have a batsman in Hussey that can also do that.

I see your point though, wait until they are back in Australia before bringing back in Marsh. I just really like him, that's all.
 
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Lee's gone home injured with an elbow problem, Hopes has followed him as well. Clint McKay's been called up as cover.

James Hopes to return home, Clint McKay called up | Cricket News | India v Australia 2009/10 | Cricinfo.com

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Need Marsh to open with Watson with Ponting and Hussey dropping back to numbers three and four. We don't seem to have anything below number four at the moment which is worrying. I'd like to see White bat at five.
 
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My line up all depends on Marsh's form. I think of him like a for effort thinks of Ferguson :)p almost) but I'm not sure he's in the best of form. Didn't do too badly in some domestic games. He can bat lower in the order as well to help prevent the lower order lack of batsman you are talking about.

I'm actually tempted to put Hussey into no.6.

The side as such:

Watson
Marsh
Ponting
White
Henriques/McDonald
Hussey
Johnson
Manou
Hauritz
Bollinger
Siddle

Or Hussey could also open:

Watson
Hussey
Ponting
Marsh
White
Henriques/McDonald
Johnson
Manou
Hauritz
Bollinger
Siddle

The side lacks batting depth without a keeper/batsman. They are almost a necessity in ODIs.

For fun Johnson could open. :p
 
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Trouble is that McDonald is not over there, his cap is too dark ;)

I look forward to this team for game 7
Ponting, Watson, White, Voges, Hussey, Henriques, McKay, Manou, Siddle, Holland, Bollinger
 
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eddiesmith;373438 said:
Trouble is that McDonald is not over there, his cap is too dark ;)

I look forward to this team for game 7
Ponting, Watson, White, Voges, Hussey, Henriques, McKay, Manou, Siddle, Holland, Bollinger
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Well if they are playing a dead rubber and you want the second XI players then take out Hussey and put in Marsh. Give Hussey a rest ready for the test series.

I don't want Ponting opening.
 
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Boris;373439 said:
Well if they are playing a dead rubber and you want the second XI players then take out Hussey and put in Marsh. Give Hussey a rest ready for the test series.

I don't want Ponting opening.
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No I was picking the best possible side from the squad, by game 7 they might finally dump Johnson

Although currently in game 4 they have swapped Voges and Marsh, obviously decided they dont want Voges for his bowling and Ponting doesnt really want to open, although a cardboard cutout would be more effective than Marsh atm and would be a far better fielder
 
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eddiesmith;373444 said:
No I was picking the best possible side from the squad, by game 7 they might finally dump Johnson

Although currently in game 4 they have swapped Voges and Marsh, obviously decided they dont want Voges for his bowling and Ponting doesnt really want to open, although a cardboard cutout would be more effective than Marsh atm and would be a far better fielder
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Johnson's doing his job and won't be dropped. He is going well in a very under performing bowling attack. Maybe that's got to do with the fact that Bollinger and Siddle are leading it. I think that is why Australia is losing games. Nobody is at fault though, injuries happen to everyone.

Marsh showed some form domestically, and was the best batsman in the team last time he was in it, so I would just like to give him the chance. He is a good player and good for the side if he gets going.
 
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Boris;373446 said:
Johnson's doing his job and won't be dropped. He is going well in a very under performing bowling attack. Maybe that's got to do with the fact that Bollinger and Siddle are leading it. I think that is why Australia is losing games. Nobody is at fault though, injuries happen to everyone.

Marsh showed some form domestically, and was the best batsman in the team last time he was in it, so I would just like to give him the chance. He is a good player and good for the side if he gets going.
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Marsh tried his best to help India in the 1st game when he went on the field, never should have got as close and isnt it you who says fielding is vital in ODIs? What good is a player who cant bowl or field? Would be wanting to make 100 a game to make up for those runs he gives away

As for Johnson, doing a superb job, whilst Bollinger and Siddle are keeping it tight, he is getting smashed, great isnt it when the most experienced is releasing all the pressure, its almost like Brett Lee hasnt gone home at all :D
 
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Great return for Marsh with a very slow 5, will end up with a negative return for this game after fielding
 
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Good bowling. They have kept Watson quiet too.

Marsh will get there with any luck as long as they select him in Australia.
 
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Really confuses me why any bowler insists on bowling short to Ponting... even for his first ball.
 
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Ponting's pull shot is devastating, but also inconsistent. A lot of his dismissals come from mistimed ones.
 
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If they had left out Marsh then they would probably be on target for a match winning score over 300
 
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Caesar;373466 said:
Ponting's pull shot is devastating, but also inconsistent. A lot of his dismissals come from mistimed ones.
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But the amount of dismissals he gets from it isn't that large compared to his other ones. There is no point bowling there IMO.

eddiesmith;373468 said:
If they had left out Marsh then they would probably be on target for a match winning score over 300
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And if they left out White last game they maybe would have had 30 more runs. The way cricket goes.
 
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Boris;373473 said:
But the amount of dismissals he gets from it isn't that large compared to his other ones. There is no point bowling there IMO.



And if they left out White last game they maybe would have had 30 more runs. The way cricket goes.
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Really? How do you work that out seeing as on the flattest pitch outside of Adelaide Marsh cant even make more than a crawling 5, wouldnt have scored in Delhi :D
 
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