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Didnt Hussey win or finish 2nd in the ODI player of the year this year?
Didnt Hussey win or finish 2nd in the ODI player of the year this year?
Australian Cricket Team Discussions
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hussey has to make a sizeable contribution in his next test or he will be gone, and if they dont drop him then maybe we should start looking at the selectors. i i think he"s failed in 5 of the last 6 series now.Boris;344738 said:
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Guys.. there are a few thins not being said here so I am gonna say.
Australia need to find a solid opening partnership.. Haddin and Clarke are to alike.. and it builds pressure, as they dont score consistency. A fit shaun marsh walks into the team in my mind.
This leads to my next point.. Punter is facing far too much of the new ball .. I think the consistency will come.. he is the best australian batsman currently..
Mike Hussey has had some shocking umpiring decisions .. in the one dayers. there is no way he was out LBW of his bat in cape town , durban ...
I am thinking what is wrong with Callum Ferguson.. he needs some time in the middle.. and some luck.
Also the death bowling like south africa's is not working properly.. 80 and 90 in the last 10 is gonna cost you matches.
Secondly also a spinner ... not Bryce McCain.. is needed in the one dayers.. building pressure in the middle overs is vital.. compare the middle overs when Botha, van der Merwe, Duminy, Kallis is bowling.. to the middle overs of australia. Hauritz works for the postal agency as he travels..
I must add that James Hopes has been impressive.. and the australian fielding has not been its trusty self.. also note that Bracks is struggling..
I hope I am not being arrogant or insensitive.. but the truth is it well get better...
Also I am unaware of anyone except Phil Hughes I would bring into the squad.. I do not know how he went in the Ford Ranger Cup?? or who are other candidates ..
Guys.. there are a few thins not being said here so I am gonna say.
Australia need to find a solid opening partnership.. Haddin and Clarke are to alike.. and it builds pressure, as they dont score consistency. A fit shaun marsh walks into the team in my mind.
This leads to my next point.. Punter is facing far too much of the new ball .. I think the consistency will come.. he is the best australian batsman currently..
Mike Hussey has had some shocking umpiring decisions .. in the one dayers. there is no way he was out LBW of his bat in cape town , durban ...
I am thinking what is wrong with Callum Ferguson.. he needs some time in the middle.. and some luck.
Also the death bowling like south africa's is not working properly.. 80 and 90 in the last 10 is gonna cost you matches.
Secondly also a spinner ... not Bryce McCain.. is needed in the one dayers.. building pressure in the middle overs is vital.. compare the middle overs when Botha, van der Merwe, Duminy, Kallis is bowling.. to the middle overs of australia. Hauritz works for the postal agency as he travels..
I must add that James Hopes has been impressive.. and the australian fielding has not been its trusty self.. also note that Bracks is struggling..
I hope I am not being arrogant or insensitive.. but the truth is it well get better...
Also I am unaware of anyone except Phil Hughes I would bring into the squad.. I do not know how he went in the Ford Ranger Cup?? or who are other candidates ..
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A couple of opening options are Quiney and Rogers (Was FRC player of the year even though WA reckon he cant play one day cricket
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Other batting options are Warner, Birt, North, Voges
Hughes didnt do to well in the FRC last season
A couple of opening options are Quiney and Rogers (Was FRC player of the year even though WA reckon he cant play one day cricket
)Other batting options are Warner, Birt, North, Voges
Hughes didnt do to well in the FRC last season
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i dont think theres much wrong with husseys ODI form, just his test form.
hattrick;344837 said:
i dont think theres much wrong with husseys ODI form, just his test form.
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did you even read my post ?, i didnt say ponting wasnt our best batsman, i just said because of his age and the pressure of being captain for some time now that i think he deserves a breather at 5, most great no3s of the past have gone to no5 in the twilight of there careers and i see no reason why punter shoudnt, and if you think husseys test match form is anything better than shit then ill ask you this question, what planet are you from ? if you dont mind me asking, and i do have patience, its just run out, thats all.LIONS then DAYLIGHT;344734 said:
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Hughes averaged about 27 last year in the FRC. Marsh and Haddin will do for me.
Marsh
Haddin
Ponting
Clarke
Ferguson
M. Hussey
Hopes
Johnson
Hauritz
Bracken
Siddle
Ferguson has been good so get him up the order with M. Hussey as the finisher. Hauritz has been good at restricting the flow of runs bar one game, the last. I want Siddle in there too.
Hughes averaged about 27 last year in the FRC. Marsh and Haddin will do for me.
Marsh
Haddin
Ponting
Clarke
Ferguson
M. Hussey
Hopes
Johnson
Hauritz
Bracken
Siddle
Ferguson has been good so get him up the order with M. Hussey as the finisher. Hauritz has been good at restricting the flow of runs bar one game, the last. I want Siddle in there too.
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Symonds is back soon, it doesnt matter what you think of him as a test player, only a complete muppet would doubt his limited overs credentials. has anyone ever wondered why we lose ODIs when he"s not playing.
Symonds is back soon, it doesnt matter what you think of him as a test player, only a complete muppet would doubt his limited overs credentials. has anyone ever wondered why we lose ODIs when he"s not playing.
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shaun marsh is a definite to return in my books, i cant see him not returning. he will be good there and should become a good aussie opener for quite a while if he continues the way he was. who to put with him though?
hussey has been pretty good in the ODIs, not quite the form we may be used to from him, but still easily one of the better batsman. i know that he gets compared to michael bevan a lot (even if it is only by me) but i hope the same doesnt happen to him as it did bevan. bevan got dropped from the test side for pretty much the same thing that hussey is going through now, but remained as one of the best OD batsmen in the world ever. i hope hussey isnt left to the same fate...
i think ferguson is pretty good, although i am not convinced that he is the best player in the country for that position.
the team needs a spinner, but when there is nobody reliable around then there is no use wasting a spot for someone that isnt going to do to well. i dont mind hauritz, but i dont think he is the right person. krezja was shocking in the latter stages of the domestics comps, mcgain should stick with tests, then there are the other options that have not yet been on the international stage. what about dan cullen, cullen bailey, aaron heal and the few others that i wouldnt really put in contention? surely they must get a go sooner rather than later. the cullens were in contention as warne's successors while he was still playing, but have heard nothing about them since. and anybody know what is happening with mcgill? is he coming back?
bracken has had a little trouble in south africa, i think it will pass. hes still getting a wicket or two, although not with the economy.
stuart clarke is set to come back into the side as well, in replace of geeves/harwood i hope.
andrew symonds. i hope he performs in pakistan. i think he is the lacking dimension of the side. whether you love him or hate him he is a good player with the x-factor that wins matches. everyone on the team love him and the team fields better as a whole while he is there. i havent seen much happening with ponting or clark while he hasnt been in the side with their great fielding, but when roy is in the side they make a formidable off-side ring to make the batsman shake with fear. or anywhere on the field for that matter.
also who is in the slips now in tests and ODIs? we are losing our slippers! almost all of the slip cordon has retired recently. they arent just a field position that anyone can be put there. beside ponting, white and watson are alright slippers (watson has a question mark after his catching ability in the SS final). i am not sure about anyone else. clark and symonds cant. hussey is a great gully fielder, almost as good as haydos was. anyone know who is the best slip fielder in any position in the cordon in australia?
hattrick;344837 said:
shaun marsh is a definite to return in my books, i cant see him not returning. he will be good there and should become a good aussie opener for quite a while if he continues the way he was. who to put with him though?
hussey has been pretty good in the ODIs, not quite the form we may be used to from him, but still easily one of the better batsman. i know that he gets compared to michael bevan a lot (even if it is only by me
) but i hope the same doesnt happen to him as it did bevan. bevan got dropped from the test side for pretty much the same thing that hussey is going through now, but remained as one of the best OD batsmen in the world ever. i hope hussey isnt left to the same fate...i think ferguson is pretty good, although i am not convinced that he is the best player in the country for that position.
the team needs a spinner, but when there is nobody reliable around then there is no use wasting a spot for someone that isnt going to do to well. i dont mind hauritz, but i dont think he is the right person. krezja was shocking in the latter stages of the domestics comps, mcgain should stick with tests, then there are the other options that have not yet been on the international stage. what about dan cullen, cullen bailey, aaron heal and the few others that i wouldnt really put in contention? surely they must get a go sooner rather than later. the cullens were in contention as warne's successors while he was still playing, but have heard nothing about them since. and anybody know what is happening with mcgill? is he coming back?
bracken has had a little trouble in south africa, i think it will pass. hes still getting a wicket or two, although not with the economy.
stuart clarke is set to come back into the side as well, in replace of geeves/harwood i hope.
andrew symonds. i hope he performs in pakistan. i think he is the lacking dimension of the side. whether you love him or hate him he is a good player with the x-factor that wins matches. everyone on the team love him and the team fields better as a whole while he is there. i havent seen much happening with ponting or clark while he hasnt been in the side with their great fielding, but when roy is in the side they make a formidable off-side ring to make the batsman shake with fear. or anywhere on the field for that matter.
also who is in the slips now in tests and ODIs? we are losing our slippers! almost all of the slip cordon has retired recently. they arent just a field position that anyone can be put there. beside ponting, white and watson are alright slippers (watson has a question mark after his catching ability in the SS final). i am not sure about anyone else. clark and symonds cant. hussey is a great gully fielder, almost as good as haydos was. anyone know who is the best slip fielder in any position in the cordon in australia?
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i cant say im a big fan of ODIs to be honest so dont really follow the players that closely, allthough i dont think theres anything wrong with the marsh/haddin opening combo, i think hussey could also open the batting if push came to shove, but i do like hussey at 5/6 as the finisher.
i cant say im a big fan of ODIs to be honest so dont really follow the players that closely, allthough i dont think theres anything wrong with the marsh/haddin opening combo, i think hussey could also open the batting if push came to shove, but i do like hussey at 5/6 as the finisher.
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i have been saying that for a while myself, get hussey down the order to finish and possibly bat with the tail, he is really good at that. if hauritz doesnt improve soon though i would be putting symonds in for him, otherwise i would put him in for ferguson. symonds batting form may not be the greatest lately but his bowling form has been pretty brilliant, plus his great batting makes him a much better player than hauritz. plus the side has an extra batsman and the batting talent of the side his humongous. dont like siddle though. clark over him anyday in any form of the game.
Mousey;344922 said:
i have been saying that for a while myself, get hussey down the order to finish and possibly bat with the tail, he is really good at that. if hauritz doesnt improve soon though i would be putting symonds in for him, otherwise i would put him in for ferguson. symonds batting form may not be the greatest lately but his bowling form has been pretty brilliant, plus his great batting makes him a much better player than hauritz. plus the side has an extra batsman and the batting talent of the side his humongous. dont like siddle though. clark over him anyday in any form of the game.
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is there anything wrong with D.husseys form ? he can bowl spin as well.
is there anything wrong with D.husseys form ? he can bowl spin as well.
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No there isnt. if you look at Mousey's best team there are three spots in my opinion that are under a lot of threat when everyone is back fit. these are hauritz, ferguson and siddle. the possible players to fill these positions i think should be symonds, d.hussey, lee, clark, harwood and geeves. if everyone was fit this would be my side in this order.
1. Haddin
2. Marsh
3. Ponting
4. Clarke
5. Symonds
6. D. Hussey/Ferguson (whoever is best at the time)
7. M. Hussey
8. Hopes
9. Lee
10. Johnson
11. Bracken
if the sides bowling comes under pressure because there is only 4 full time bowlers there (Hopes, Lee, Johnson, Bracken)(which should be enough with Symonds, D. Hussey and Clarke in their bowling as well) then Clark, Siddle, Hauritz, Harwood, Geeves, etc could take D.Hussey/Ferguson's spot. i would like to put johnson above lee, but i am afraid that lee wouldnt let him do that. he has worked hard for that spot and wont give it up without a fight!
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No there isnt. if you look at Mousey's best team there are three spots in my opinion that are under a lot of threat when everyone is back fit. these are hauritz, ferguson and siddle. the possible players to fill these positions i think should be symonds, d.hussey, lee, clark, harwood and geeves. if everyone was fit this would be my side in this order.
1. Haddin
2. Marsh
3. Ponting
4. Clarke
5. Symonds
6. D. Hussey/Ferguson (whoever is best at the time)
7. M. Hussey
8. Hopes
9. Lee
10. Johnson
11. Bracken
if the sides bowling comes under pressure because there is only 4 full time bowlers there (Hopes, Lee, Johnson, Bracken)(which should be enough with Symonds, D. Hussey and Clarke in their bowling as well) then Clark, Siddle, Hauritz, Harwood, Geeves, etc could take D.Hussey/Ferguson's spot. i would like to put johnson above lee, but i am afraid that lee wouldnt let him do that
. he has worked hard for that spot and wont give it up without a fight!
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i would ponder having watson in there as well, maybe ahead of hopes.
i would ponder having watson in there as well, maybe ahead of hopes.
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fair batting line up that, id probably have mitch ahead of lee, but then again mitches ODI batting is shit compared to his test batting. i do like both the husseys in there, there both smart busy cricketers, as for hopes, a fit watson will do me over him.Boris;344937 said:No there isnt. if you look at Mousey's best team there are three spots in my opinion that are under a lot of threat when everyone is back fit. these are hauritz, ferguson and siddle. the possible players to fill these positions i think should be symonds, d.hussey, lee, clark, harwood and geeves. if everyone was fit this would be my side in this order.
1. Haddin
2. Marsh
3. Ponting
4. Clarke
5. Symonds
6. D. Hussey/Ferguson (whoever is best at the time)
7. M. Hussey
8. Hopes
9. Lee
10. Johnson
11. Bracken
if the sides bowling comes under pressure because there is only 4 full time bowlers there (Hopes, Lee, Johnson, Bracken)(which should be enough with Symonds, D. Hussey and Clarke in their bowling as well) then Clark, Siddle, Hauritz, Harwood, Geeves, etc could take D.Hussey/Ferguson's spot. i would like to put johnson above lee, but i am afraid that lee wouldnt let him do that
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i think watson has missed out. he is a good player and all, just i dont think there is room for him, plus he is continually getting injured. i kind of formed a hatred of him too after what he did in the SS final.
i like having really strong batting lineups for ODIs. i prefer to have the more all-rounder type bowlers, plus more all-rounders then usual. like lee, johnson and bracken can all bat really well. i think ODIs are more a batsman's game. i did include that option that if the bowlers werent going well enough to have that extra one in there though. you cant win the game if you dont have runs, so if you have bowlers that can score a lot for you, plus be good enough to bowl well, then i would have them in any day ahead of most other normal bowlers.
like i said about johnson and lee, lee has spent his whole career earning that spot if you remember the battles he had with warne and other bowlers to keep his spot as the first bowler in the lineup, and now johnson has come in and shown how good he is. i dont think lee would relinquish his spot easily, even if it is for the better of the team.
i think watson has missed out. he is a good player and all, just i dont think there is room for him, plus he is continually getting injured. i kind of formed a hatred of him too after what he did in the SS final.
i like having really strong batting lineups for ODIs. i prefer to have the more all-rounder type bowlers, plus more all-rounders then usual. like lee, johnson and bracken can all bat really well. i think ODIs are more a batsman's game. i did include that option that if the bowlers werent going well enough to have that extra one in there though. you cant win the game if you dont have runs, so if you have bowlers that can score a lot for you, plus be good enough to bowl well, then i would have them in any day ahead of most other normal bowlers.
like i said about johnson and lee, lee has spent his whole career earning that spot if you remember the battles he had with warne and other bowlers to keep his spot as the first bowler in the lineup, and now johnson has come in and shown how good he is. i dont think lee would relinquish his spot easily, even if it is for the better of the team.
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Shane Harwood would not even come close to consideration for Australias ODI side at his age, just a simple right time, right place selection, after this years T20 championships I would be suprised to see him in the side again
Shane Harwood would not even come close to consideration for Australias ODI side at his age, just a simple right time, right place selection, after this years T20 championships I would be suprised to see him in the side again
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i know ill get flogged for even mentioning this and i know it"ll never happen but has anyone thought of using mitch as an opener in limited overs games (as a hitter of course) ?, he dosnt seem to be able to bat at 9/10 in limited overs matches, it could be that he needs a few overs to get going and at present he"s required to go from ball one which doesnt suit him, or it could be that the bowlers are in lockdown mode when he comes in and with his exspansive stroke play he isnt suited, we all know how capable he is when his eyes in and what a wonderfull striker he is, he has a solid defence and if he goes out early who cares, he isnt making many runs at 9 anyway, but if he can stick around for 10 overs 1 out of 3 innings then it should be considered, but it wont. id love to see it trialled in T/20s. he loves batting and i dont think he
s ever going to get above 8 in test matches, this could be a way of acknowledging his batting talents.
i know ill get flogged for even mentioning this and i know it"ll never happen but has anyone thought of using mitch as an opener in limited overs games (as a hitter of course) ?, he dosnt seem to be able to bat at 9/10 in limited overs matches, it could be that he needs a few overs to get going and at present he"s required to go from ball one which doesnt suit him, or it could be that the bowlers are in lockdown mode when he comes in and with his exspansive stroke play he isnt suited, we all know how capable he is when his eyes in and what a wonderfull striker he is, he has a solid defence and if he goes out early who cares, he isnt making many runs at 9 anyway, but if he can stick around for 10 overs 1 out of 3 innings then it should be considered, but it wont. id love to see it trialled in T/20s. he loves batting and i dont think he
s ever going to get above 8 in test matches, this could be a way of acknowledging his batting talents.
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could turn out something like I Pathan, has some logic to the thought. but probably wont happen. He will get undone by a fast swinging ball.
could turn out something like I Pathan, has some logic to the thought. but probably wont happen. He will get undone by a fast swinging ball.
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lol, i dont like watson either, he"s a bit to animated for me.Boris;344941 said:i think watson has missed out. he is a good player and all, just i dont think there is room for him, plus he is continually getting injured. i kind of formed a hatred of him too after what he did in the SS final.
i like having really strong batting lineups for ODIs. i prefer to have the more all-rounder type bowlers, plus more all-rounders then usual. like lee, johnson and bracken can all bat really well. i think ODIs are more a batsman's game. i did include that option that if the bowlers werent going well enough to have that extra one in there though. you cant win the game if you dont have runs, so if you have bowlers that can score a lot for you, plus be good enough to bowl well, then i would have them in any day ahead of most other normal bowlers.
like i said about johnson and lee, lee has spent his whole career earning that spot if you remember the battles he had with warne and other bowlers to keep his spot as the first bowler in the lineup, and now johnson has come in and shown how good he is. i dont think lee would relinquish his spot easily, even if it is for the better of the team.